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He also "seems" to get a lot of his feedback from here too. IMO
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Let's hope not because there are not enough "core fans" to keep this thing afloat. It's going to take some new fans that can enjoy the racing, but are not participant's of the sport.
Comparing mx to any of those other sports is just dumb.
My questions asked (and I already said I'll probably get told it's none of my business) are pretty simple, Is there any research to show that if the tracks spend tens of thousands of dollars on upgrades that enough new fans will show up to give the track owners a return on their investment. I can totally see Glen Helens point of view that if they spend the money they at least want to recoup it, and it doesn't sound like they can get a return on their capital outlay in one year.
I'm just trying to have a discussion here and I'm not upset or complaining :D In fact I'm as happy as a clam. If, and or when, I get upset I'll will give myself a timeout.
Post edit: Dave, I bet you could find the NBA's long-term marketing plan on google. Commissioner Stern is very transparent about his goals. IF you have a good plan and you trust the research behind it there is nothing to hide . . . I mean really, do any of the leagues you mention even have competition? For that matter does MX Sports even have any competition?
I could see my questions upsetting some people if they are just flying by the seat of their pants. MX Sports makes their money regardless of whether or not the Track owners make a profit.
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oldfart, I suspect you didn't read my original post very clearly (or you have a reading comprehension problem) I already said I expect to be told it's none of my business.
Trip?
You're a Douchebag.
Do you have an Orange "spray-on tan"?
You & I are usually "On the same page"; but, you're preconceived ability to throw certain folks under the bus threw me off...
Case in point: Coombs family owned/operated tracks had to make the same improvements (increased "flat" acreage for the pits, improved egress-degrees...etc.) that ALL the other tracks did.
Also, Hangtown/Dirt Diggers had to come to terms with MX Sports & they got a -4- year deal.
So, where (excuse-wise) does that leave Glen Helen?
There is a Kiss concert from 98 on VH1 Classics right now
Make sense?
There's a good faith/bad faith aspect to all of this that's based on a history of Nothing getting done...
The best example that I know is PBA. Lots of people tune in to watch bull riding. People that have never even gotten close to a bull, let alone ride one. We are getting closer to that with supercross, but we need to also be able to pull those viewers in for the outdoors also.
That's what gets the attention of sponsors looking for a place to market their products.
When Thor isn't willing to pay what it takes to get a 60 second commercial on one of these TV events, that means that the sport is moving forward.
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The vision here is to keep all of the riders and teams engaged in outdoor motocross by giving them what they want: Better exposure, better television and online packages, better facilities, better treatment, better racing. Same goes for what we want to give the fans -- a better overall experience. It all seems to have begun to work with Chad back in the series and James on his way back.
The Glen Helen thing is unfortunate and embarrassing, and we thought they were coming back -- that's why the schedules went out with them on it -- but they decided not to continue unless they got a full-term contract, and we were not prepared to give them that. They didn't even want to meet in the middle. So there was no getting past it, and they made that clear when they canceled the race. I don't know what else MX Sports was supposed to do except move forward without them. And we are.
I feel bad for every motocross fan in Southern California and around the world that was affected by this late-change, and I hope that whatever we end up doing out there will start to make up for this unfortunate turn of events. Please don't hold your contempt for me or MX Sports against outdoor motocross itself.
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Why did MX Sports refuse to offer Glen Helen a 4-year contract?
Red Bud, Unadilla and Spring Creek have done a lot of work and made improvements in the last few years for which they were rewarded with full terms. Does every player on every team get the same length contract? Does every track on the NASCAR schedule or Moto GP have the same contract terms of length? Why can't motocross conduct business the same way as most other sporting entities?
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I don't think it has. Only with the limited local Calif. folks has it caused such a reaction, and I really don't find fault with their reaction since it is a local National with such a rich history.
Sure, most of the people I've talked to are somewhat "bummed" about it, but they see it as just another track that will get opportunity, just as in prior years. But mostly understand, it's business. Life will go on in the MX Nat. world.
I don't blame DC for not giving GH a extended contract when they weren't going to comply with it. MX Sports is trying to grow motocross and make it better, but GH wasn't going to make the changes. Its just business.
He gave you a solid, answer and you say he’s dancing around the answer?
Glen Helen looks like a shit hole.......how’s that?
I am not sure why this doesn’t make sense to a lot of you guys? You want a four year contract? Put it in writing that you’re going to do so and so with your track to host the premier motocross series in the world.
You know all those high price beers, gate fees, pit passes, that most of you bitch about? If they are going to make that kind of loot, why should some of it not be put back into upgrading the facility?
If all a promoter wanted to do was pocket the money I wouldn’t want them in my series either. (Not sure if this is the case or not)
And you know what, it’s cool to ask questions, but when you have the main man here, doing his best to take some of you guys serious, (side note, hardly any of you state your real name, and he does) and your constantly asking those questions like your questioning his motive......it gets old.
OEM's and the riders cannot come up with convenient excuses any more about why they won't race the outdoors. OEM's will not be paying big cash for one series any longer imho. That includes JS.
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