Is this even “news” at this point ? ( Nico Izzi )

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Speaking of JLaw...he's supposed to be running the industry class on a Phoenix Honda at the Ironman GNCC tomorrow. Pretty sure Justin Starling is running XC1...

Speaking of JLaw...he's supposed to be running the industry class on a Phoenix Honda at the Ironman GNCC tomorrow. Pretty sure Justin Starling is running XC1 at that event.

RonSkj wrote:
" He's supposed to be running" We'll see how that works out.  

" He's supposed to be running" Laughing We'll see how that works out.

 

Lol he's leading the industry class after lap 1

Lol he's leading the industry class after lap 1Woohoo

So he’s in the industry now 🤦‍♂️

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10/22/2023 12:38pm
Nico needs an Aldon Baker level life coach. Guys bitch about Aldon and his strict diet and training methods but they usually have success, Well,... Nico...

Nico needs an Aldon Baker level life coach. Guys bitch about Aldon and his strict diet and training methods but they usually have success,

Well,... Nico needs someone like Aldon who calls or meets with him every day to make sure he is on the strait and narrow. Someone who gives him structure, a plan to go about every day to limit the temptation to get high.

Will power doesn't work when your drug of choice is so enjoyable when you are high. You think about that relaxing feeling every moment until you fulfill it.

I hope he finds his moment of clarity sooner then later.

No. Nico needs to WANT to be better. That's the only thing that would help him.  He's shown us he doesn't want to be better....he's made...

No. Nico needs to WANT to be better. That's the only thing that would help him.  He's shown us he doesn't want to be better....he's made that choice. He's got to live with it

Just some observations from those around me who've struggled with addiction.

I agree with the first and second sentences, but not the third.

There are things of course that can start an addict on the path of sobriety without their heart in it, a plea deal that keeps them out of jail/prison, losing custody of their kids if they don't get sober, etc..., and once treatment is started, it can get them to a place where they truly want sobriety.  But long term, it's not going to work unless they decide that's what they want. That's only the beginning.

I don't believe an addict using shows they don't want to be better.  For many, they do.  It's simply incredibly difficult to make that change for some people.

It's not just quitting the drugs.  They lose their social circle, have to face head on all the problems they've created and ignored, get and keep a job, re-earn the trust of family and their sober friends, none of which trust them at first, and they have to change their mindset and habits, and stop making excuses.

It's what needs to be done, and quite frankly, some don't have the ability to do that.  It's of course possible, but simply very, very difficult for some if they don't already have a lot of self control.

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10/22/2023 12:51pm
yz763 wrote:
It’s not close. If one has been clean and sober for 10 years, they’re still an addict or alcoholic. Just because they haven’t used or drank...

It’s not close. If one has been clean and sober for 10 years, they’re still an addict or alcoholic. Just because they haven’t used or drank doesn’t mean they’re cured. It just means they haven’t drank or used. The character defects that lead them down that path still exist. 
He needs to be accountable for his actions, no question. No one or anything is to blame for what he’s done to himself or others except Nico.  This is the main point. Until he’s honest with himself and others, he will never take accountability and keep heading down this path. Each time, rock bottom gets lower and lower until he’s dead or in prison for the rest of his life. 

Totally agree with this. Alcoholic here. November 12th I'll be 6 years alcohol free. The months leading up to me finally breaking free from it, back in 2017, had you told me I was about to achieve what I have, I would have probably laughed in your face. Everything changed the minute I took responsibility for my actions. 

I've got so much beef with that mentality they beat into addicts, the "it's not you it's the disease" bullshit. I'm not going to argue with anyone here about wether or not it is, I have my beliefs and you can have yours, but drumming that into addicts just gives them a reason to slip up in my opinion. It takes the responsibility off of them. 

By now Nico has all the data required to know exactly what happens if he carries on down the road he's on. It's not going to get better. He's not suddenly going to find a way to live a normal life and keep using at the same time. This is his reality. He has to decide if the consequences are worth the drug. If they are and he carries on, what will be, will be. That's his choice to make. 

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10/28/2023 5:39pm

Oh give the old tough guy act a break now. We all know you Vitards are going to be the first ones to welcome Nico into your homes when he gets out in 2025. Give him a bike to ride, a place to stay, and even an allowance in exchange for giving pointers to little Son Johnny. You might laugh at this or snap back, but mark this post because it WILL happen. 

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10/28/2023 7:23pm Edited Date/Time 10/28/2023 8:30pm
Well, I didn't say anything magically disappears, but if you detox in jail for more than a year I would suggest that's pretty damn close.  I...

Well, I didn't say anything magically disappears, but if you detox in jail for more than a year I would suggest that's pretty damn close.  I did not say he was a piece of shit, but he absolutely deserves to be where he is and has had many chances to get his life together.  I refuse to accept "blaming the drugs" or "he has to hit rock bottom", or any other EXCUSE for him kidnapping, assaulting, stealing, committing battery etc not just once but multiple times.  

Like there are no drugs in jail 😅 do you really think he wasn't using in prison to, because they are just as easy to get in jail as on the street.

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yz763 wrote:
You seem to keep thinking the addiction just magically disappears after some time of not using. The drugs are simply a symptom of a bigger problem...

You seem to keep thinking the addiction just magically disappears after some time of not using. The drugs are simply a symptom of a bigger problem. The defects of character still and will always exist and require constant acknowledgment and work. This can only happen after one is honest with themselves. This honesty sometimes comes after a rock bottom. My rock bottom was similar to Izzi’s but this was the best gift I’ve ever been given. The gift of desperation.
Thankfully I didn’t have a bunch of people telling me what a piece of shit I was. The shame and guilt I put on myself was enough and the ones that truly cared stuck by my side and believed in me. 
I hope he gets the help he needs and takes the journey of being brutally honest after this but who knows, maybe this isn’t rock bottom. 

Sandusky26 wrote:

Some of us just get tired of being a loser and put the shit down. I did 3 years ago and haven't looked back.

Some of us get tired of your posts. Hey just jokes people 

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Well, I didn't say anything magically disappears, but if you detox in jail for more than a year I would suggest that's pretty damn close.  I...

Well, I didn't say anything magically disappears, but if you detox in jail for more than a year I would suggest that's pretty damn close.  I did not say he was a piece of shit, but he absolutely deserves to be where he is and has had many chances to get his life together.  I refuse to accept "blaming the drugs" or "he has to hit rock bottom", or any other EXCUSE for him kidnapping, assaulting, stealing, committing battery etc not just once but multiple times.  

lostboy819 wrote:
Like there are no drugs in jail 😅 do you really think he wasn't using in prison to, because they are just as easy to get...

Like there are no drugs in jail 😅 do you really think he wasn't using in prison to, because they are just as easy to get in jail as on the street.

Regardless, does not support any of his actions and he just sit there for a while.

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Hope he gets the help he needs, hope he makes amends for all the wrong he has done, hope I don’t ever hear about “a comeback” again, hope he lives the rest of his life trying to be the best person he can. 

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3/24/2024 11:27pm

no way! Izzi isn't 6',6" is he!?! i don't think he is. So either the cops calibration is off on that height measurement wall behind him. Or the photo is a photo of someone else that looks like nico. i don't know. does anyone know his actual height?

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3/24/2024 11:30pm
no way! Izzi isn't 6',6" is he!?! i don't think he is. So either the cops calibration is off on that height measurement wall behind him...

no way! Izzi isn't 6',6" is he!?! i don't think he is. So either the cops calibration is off on that height measurement wall behind him. Or the photo is a photo of someone else that looks like nico. i don't know. does anyone know his actual height?

Look again. You'll figure it out.

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3/24/2024 11:52pm

Look again. You'll figure it out.

That might have been one of the nicest replies to an obvious mistake ever. Good on ya!!

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Well, I didn't say anything magically disappears, but if you detox in jail for more than a year I would suggest that's pretty damn close.  I...

Well, I didn't say anything magically disappears, but if you detox in jail for more than a year I would suggest that's pretty damn close.  I did not say he was a piece of shit, but he absolutely deserves to be where he is and has had many chances to get his life together.  I refuse to accept "blaming the drugs" or "he has to hit rock bottom", or any other EXCUSE for him kidnapping, assaulting, stealing, committing battery etc not just once but multiple times.  

lostboy819 wrote:
Like there are no drugs in jail 😅 do you really think he wasn't using in prison to, because they are just as easy to get...

Like there are no drugs in jail 😅 do you really think he wasn't using in prison to, because they are just as easy to get in jail as on the street.

That needs to change.  There needs to be NO drugs in prison.  It would give every inmate a fresh start each time they're released.

The way it is now, an addict goes to prison, keeps using, then leaves prison and keeps using, then gets arrested, and returns.  I know that there's help in prison for those who want to get sober, but WTH? Why are we allowing drugs in prison?  What upside could there possibly be?

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Drugs aren't issued....its called smuggling. 

I understand that, and that the guards obviously turn a blind eye.

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3/25/2024 11:04pm Edited Date/Time 3/26/2024 10:19am

In the Gypsy podcast with Davi this past week he mentioned Izzi just overdosed on fentanyl recently when they were talking about his era of riders like Izzi, Stroupe, Litchle, etc. This era of racers got caught up in some shit, for sure... Glad it seems to be less common now.

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aeffertz wrote:
In the Gypsy podcast with Davi this past week he mentioned Izzi just overdosed on fentanyl recently when they were talking about his era of riders...

In the Gypsy podcast with Davi this past week he mentioned Izzi just overdosed on fentanyl recently when they were talking about his era of riders like Izzi, Stroupe, Litchle, etc. This era of racers got caught up in some shit, for sure... Glad it seems to be less common now.

I think it was that there was a patch of little deros who happened to be fast as shit. Plenty of racers from that era didn't turn into junkies.

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3/26/2024 2:15am
aeffertz wrote:
In the Gypsy podcast with Davi this past week he mentioned Izzi just overdosed on fentanyl recently when they were talking about his era of riders...

In the Gypsy podcast with Davi this past week he mentioned Izzi just overdosed on fentanyl recently when they were talking about his era of riders like Izzi, Stroupe, Litchle, etc. This era of racers got caught up in some shit, for sure... Glad it seems to be less common now.

Sorry to hear this, did he pass away or just OD?

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3/26/2024 3:46am
aeffertz wrote:
In the Gypsy podcast with Davi this past week he mentioned Izzi just overdosed on fentanyl recently when they were talking about his era of riders...

In the Gypsy podcast with Davi this past week he mentioned Izzi just overdosed on fentanyl recently when they were talking about his era of riders like Izzi, Stroupe, Litchle, etc. This era of racers got caught up in some shit, for sure... Glad it seems to be less common now.

That was one of the better podcasts, Davi tell all basically.

I loved how Davi put it "the guys before us were just doing white powder and green and today they're absolutely fine".

It just shows how destructive the pharmaceutical industry is it's criminal.

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3/26/2024 3:48am Edited Date/Time 3/26/2024 3:49am
aeffertz wrote:
In the Gypsy podcast with Davi this past week he mentioned Izzi just overdosed on fentanyl recently when they were talking about his era of riders...

In the Gypsy podcast with Davi this past week he mentioned Izzi just overdosed on fentanyl recently when they were talking about his era of riders like Izzi, Stroupe, Litchle, etc. This era of racers got caught up in some shit, for sure... Glad it seems to be less common now.

pdub187 wrote:
I think it was that there was a patch of little deros who happened to be fast as shit. Plenty of racers from that era didn't...

I think it was that there was a patch of little deros who happened to be fast as shit. Plenty of racers from that era didn't turn into junkies.

Yeah you can say that, that said I don't think it's a coincidence that Legal Dr prescribed drugs took them out, like Davi said the guys who just did illegal drugs and smoked weed are still around today, and no I don't condone either, just saying those pain meds seem worse than Heroin.

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Well, I didn't say anything magically disappears, but if you detox in jail for more than a year I would suggest that's pretty damn close.  I...

Well, I didn't say anything magically disappears, but if you detox in jail for more than a year I would suggest that's pretty damn close.  I did not say he was a piece of shit, but he absolutely deserves to be where he is and has had many chances to get his life together.  I refuse to accept "blaming the drugs" or "he has to hit rock bottom", or any other EXCUSE for him kidnapping, assaulting, stealing, committing battery etc not just once but multiple times.  

lostboy819 wrote:
Like there are no drugs in jail 😅 do you really think he wasn't using in prison to, because they are just as easy to get...

Like there are no drugs in jail 😅 do you really think he wasn't using in prison to, because they are just as easy to get in jail as on the street.

Radical wrote:
That needs to change.  There needs to be NO drugs in prison.  It would give every inmate a fresh start each time they're released. The way...

That needs to change.  There needs to be NO drugs in prison.  It would give every inmate a fresh start each time they're released.

The way it is now, an addict goes to prison, keeps using, then leaves prison and keeps using, then gets arrested, and returns.  I know that there's help in prison for those who want to get sober, but WTH? Why are we allowing drugs in prison?  What upside could there possibly be?

If it makes you feel any better it's completely untrue. Drugs as easy to get in jail as on the streets lmao! Good one

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aeffertz wrote:
In the Gypsy podcast with Davi this past week he mentioned Izzi just overdosed on fentanyl recently when they were talking about his era of riders...

In the Gypsy podcast with Davi this past week he mentioned Izzi just overdosed on fentanyl recently when they were talking about his era of riders like Izzi, Stroupe, Litchle, etc. This era of racers got caught up in some shit, for sure... Glad it seems to be less common now.

pdub187 wrote:
I think it was that there was a patch of little deros who happened to be fast as shit. Plenty of racers from that era didn't...

I think it was that there was a patch of little deros who happened to be fast as shit. Plenty of racers from that era didn't turn into junkies.

Yeah you can say that, that said I don't think it's a coincidence that Legal Dr prescribed drugs took them out, like Davi said the guys...

Yeah you can say that, that said I don't think it's a coincidence that Legal Dr prescribed drugs took them out, like Davi said the guys who just did illegal drugs and smoked weed are still around today, and no I don't condone either, just saying those pain meds seem worse than Heroin.

They are heroin. 

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colonel wrote:

Sorry to hear this, did he pass away or just OD?

As far as I know he’s still alive. 

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Stroup ODd? I thought Davi said Izzi? Maybe I missed it. 

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I'm sure everyone will say Stroupe is a POS junkie and who cares but kinda fucked up for Milsaps to put that out there about him. Not really his place to tell everyone that

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3/26/2024 7:25am

Didn’t hear anything about Stroup OD. Davi said Izzi…

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3/26/2024 7:36am

Stroup ODd? I thought Davi said Izzi? Maybe I missed it. 

He said Izzi, not Stroupe OD on fentynal. Go to the 4 minute mark.

 

 

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3/26/2024 7:39am

My understanding is Stroupe is ok nowadays. Guy who mentioned Stroupe OD'ing should delete his post.

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Camp332 wrote:

My understanding is Stroupe is ok nowadays. Guy who mentioned Stroupe OD'ing should delete his post.

yeah for sure. if you see stroupe's social media it appears he is sober & has been for a good minute!

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Camp332 wrote:

My understanding is Stroupe is ok nowadays. Guy who mentioned Stroupe OD'ing should delete his post.

Agreed. Thats why I was confused. Had to go back and listen again. Dude needs to delete that post ASAP. 

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lostboy819 wrote:
Like there are no drugs in jail 😅 do you really think he wasn't using in prison to, because they are just as easy to get...

Like there are no drugs in jail 😅 do you really think he wasn't using in prison to, because they are just as easy to get in jail as on the street.

Radical wrote:
That needs to change.  There needs to be NO drugs in prison.  It would give every inmate a fresh start each time they're released. The way...

That needs to change.  There needs to be NO drugs in prison.  It would give every inmate a fresh start each time they're released.

The way it is now, an addict goes to prison, keeps using, then leaves prison and keeps using, then gets arrested, and returns.  I know that there's help in prison for those who want to get sober, but WTH? Why are we allowing drugs in prison?  What upside could there possibly be?

If it makes you feel any better it's completely untrue. Drugs as easy to get in jail as on the streets lmao! Good one

For the record, I didn't say they're as easy to get in jail as they are on the street.  But I have heard from people that there are drugs in prison.  I've also heard that there are drug treatment programs available for those who want to get sober, but it's not mandatory.

What part of that isn't true?  I'd love to believe that drugs are scarce in prison.  Tell us what you know!

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