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Wasn’t a repair, and only his mechanic accompanied him if you want to get technical to how the rule is written. The other mechanic was another riders. Mechincs help each other set holeshot devices fairly often, even from competing teams. Happens lots where the mechanics give each other a hand for stuff like that. Judging by the lack of penalties I would say you are interpreting the rule wrong.
If it requires a mechanic’s assistance to make the bike race ready, it has to be considered a repair…. There is no other possible explanation. I couldn’t care less whose bike it was. That was dangerous as fuck…
A big crash is coming huh? Magoofan you are such a knob jockey. You probably jerk off to your cousin in the basement you stupid cunt.
If you keep saying something for long enough eventually you’ll be right once.
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You’ret right, I’m sorry I guess I could’ve been a bit more delicate pointing out the comprehension thing. My bad.
Seeing as there is no descriptive list of what's a mechanical repair in the ama book. I think they will have a hard time trying to prove it was.
Mechanics engage the start device is that a mechanical repair?
In formula 1 there is to be no mechanical works undertaken on the grid. But they are allowed to put warmer on and off. But they also have a list of what you can do and not. So issues are black and white.
All this stuff in the ama book is grey areas.
The start device is a permanent part on the bike…. Apples and oranges. Bike cannot be raced the way it was presented to the start gate. It’s simple.
So the two fastest SX guys last year gapped the entire field the difference was there was a 3rd rider who is faster.
Its pretty clear what happened.
Sexton gave Eli hell in mx 2022, and sexton was improved rider in 23 outdoors and we saw what happened.
Are we surprised?
Exactly, the two fastest Supercross 450 class riders in 2023 Eli and Chase were battling again in Daytona on Saturday 03/02/2024 and Cooper Webb was 32 seconds behind them, only problem was it was for 2nd Place, because a new Sheriff in town named Jett lined up at the same gate, came from behind and passed and gapped both of them on his way to the Checkered flag.
Not to get into the pissing match going on here, im an Eli fan, and will admit he got beat straight up in Daytona. With that said, I respect Jett on the bike. Has anyone looked at the segment times? Segment 3 is where the quad was, I watched Eli try it once and it didnt go smooth so he didnt attempt it again. Looking at segment 3 Eli was losing at least 1.5 seconds/lap by not doing that quad. Segment 4/5 quit reporting after lap 4 for some reason.
I was being sarcastic.
No.
The quad that Tomac didn’t do was exactly the type of stuff Bubba did to get an edge on his rivals.
IF Dean Wilson was able to go 8 seconds a lap faster, he'd have won the race...
IF.
Why do people post such nonsensical tripe?
So is the front brake master cylinder- if they get the t-bars out to make an adjustment, what is that considered to be? Or take the seat off to use a jump pack in the case of a dead battery??
Where's the line drawn?
I agree, I'll start the next Jett thread.
My thoughts would be.
A mechanical repairs is something that requires the use of tools.
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Yep, was legalized in Australia and this place has turned to shit.
Those would be repairs... Pull it off the gate to make the "changes". The tire was not able to be raced in that condition. You can absolutely race without the start device engaged. That is a stupid argument. Go back to my original post, this isn't about Jett, it's about the rule.
Sometimes I like to only read the first post and last post of a thread..then decide if it’s worth reading in between..nope..
Jett breakout moment…..
Australia has turned to shit because of pot….
The rule doesn't say anything about "mechanical".
Puffing on Jett's cigar has proven to be even more unhealthy
I remember seeing it written someplace, but I do not care enough to find it. During mud races the AMA guys have said they sometimes relax the rule on help to a degree . Which they can do because they have a rule saying they can. It might even be in the rule book, but I think I read it or heard it said in an interview of an AMA official. I could be totally crazy too and be remembering it wrong.
I really can see both sides of the argument here on the tire cover deal.
Perhaps a warning might be called for. And if it had caused any close call or injury than a penalty. But in this case the only guy that was hurt by it was Jett himself. If nobody filed a protest, nobody felt they were impacted enough to feel it was worth speaking out. And I understand that it could have gone badly. And I will bet that Honda will do everything they can to make sure that never happens again.
I don't think the fact that it essentially caused no harm would be consistent with how they handle off track acceleration.
The off track acceleration rule is for when it was considered unsafe, OR an advantage is gained. In the case of crew members helping a rider , the rules are much less defined.
They do not say that a crew member from another team can not help a rider from a team other than their own do they?
I guess they were technically not behind the stop that they are supposed to be behind when working on the bike. So there's that, But guys are setting their starting devices in the same area so I could see how they may consider it similar. They put the wheel on the bike in the area they are supposed to. But removed finished removing the tire cover while back on the gate. Ultimately the AMA decided it was OK. You could ride with the cover on, just like You could ride without setting the starting device. Both would be a disadvantage to not do. Not removing the tire cover might be more of a disadvantage. But that is not in the rules. The impact of work done or if it was not able to be done, is not a factor in the rules as far as I understand.
I think that the most risk was for the mechanic that had his hands on the wheel so close to the start. If I was on the gate and the guy next to me had that going on. I would feel like I had him covered on the start because he was going to hesitate. And in the real world it ended up only hurting Jett as far as his start right?
Yah its silly to argue over this stuff. But that's what this place is for right? As inconsistent as the AMA rule enforcement may seem. We do not know of what happens as far as AMA guys going and talking to a rider and giving them a verbal warning of sorts. Everybody will not always agree with every decision made by another person. So as long as the rules have a person interpreting them, there is room for people to feel that a wrong call was made.
As far as the impact on Jett's ride, I say the issue with the tire cover makes the ride more impressive so a fine or penalty is really not relevant to the subject of this thread. Had Jett gone off the track and made a pass or made up a big amount of time in some way that was against a rule, and not gotten a penalty. That would be more relevant in my opinion. But in this case it was a disadvantage for Jett and a mental boost for his competicion.
Not sure who watched the RC and RV Daytona review.
But they spoke to an official about this and basically removing the tyre cover isn’t considered a repair, the AMA spoke to modt of the other teams and none of them had a complaint, and asked if the riders nearby were put off by it and none of thrm had any complaints.
Also mentioned that while there is a rule for the gate, there’s no set infraction or penalty. Its not automatically a points deduction or time penalty etc.
its about 44 minutes in. Video has chapters for each topic they discuss
aight guys after reading the "good, bad, and ugly" it sounds like this was Jetts breakout ride, and we should hand him the trophy now. Nobody else can win this championship now.
As an Eli fan, I'm shaking in my boots.
Well, now Stewart said the same thing, this was a breakout ride, Straight off beating Tomac and Chase while both were running quite faster than everyone else.
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