10 races left, MC won 10 in 93

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I posted this in another thread but thought it added even more interest to this awesome series.

10 races left and Jett needs to win nine of them to beat MC’s rookie record of 10. He needs to win seven of them to beat Chad’s.

Tall order but really shows how dominant 10+ win seasons are. 

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2/25/2024 10:02am

Not gonna happen, way too much speed and talent in this day and age. The dominant ages of MC/RC are done. 

Back in there day they could crash in the first corner and still get back up and at minimum get back on the podium. Not so much now.

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2/25/2024 11:08am

Jetts raced 7 races for 2 wins.

Mcgrath had 0 wins after his 1st 7 races.

McGrath's 10th win came on his 22nd race.

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Johnny Ringo
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2/25/2024 11:36am
Yz450fkid wrote:

Jetts raced 7 races for 2 wins.

Mcgrath had 0 wins after his 1st 7 races.

McGrath's 10th win came on his 22nd race.

Try reading my post again but slower

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2/25/2024 11:50am

The stats show more riders are in it at this stage in the history of SX. Jeremy's record remains in the record book. 👑

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Bash on me but i think that Modern day racing cosidering training, regimes, and perfection over the years is way more difficult than the golden Mcgrath years, Carmichael started all of this professionalism and actually Kicked Mc´s ass.

You would see Mc and the guys partying, having fun, drinking and being awesome all the time, with Ricky that kinda ended, he was a lot more focused and strict and it did pay, dude was unbeatable because he trained and put all his time and effort to be the best.

 

Nowadays everyone does it so to me, it is a lot more difficult.

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I have a feeling Jett will figure it out very shortly. Fastest rider all day. Made one mistake in the main, and got too frisky with Friese at the end. He’ll learn and when he does no one will be able to match his speed.

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2/25/2024 12:02pm
Mace-x wrote:
Bash on me but i think that Modern day racing cosidering training, regimes, and perfection over the years is way more difficult than the golden Mcgrath...

Bash on me but i think that Modern day racing cosidering training, regimes, and perfection over the years is way more difficult than the golden Mcgrath years, Carmichael started all of this professionalism and actually Kicked Mc´s ass.

You would see Mc and the guys partying, having fun, drinking and being awesome all the time, with Ricky that kinda ended, he was a lot more focused and strict and it did pay, dude was unbeatable because he trained and put all his time and effort to be the best.

 

Nowadays everyone does it so to me, it is a lot more difficult.

When you get a chance, GOOGLE the word provocateur and add it to your resume 🙃

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2/25/2024 12:05pm
Spudinki45 wrote:
I have a feeling Jett will figure it out very shortly. Fastest rider all day. Made one mistake in the main, and got too frisky with...

I have a feeling Jett will figure it out very shortly. Fastest rider all day. Made one mistake in the main, and got too frisky with Friese at the end. He’ll learn and when he does no one will be able to match his speed.

They couldn't match Stew's speed either.

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2/25/2024 12:07pm
Mace-x wrote:
Bash on me but i think that Modern day racing cosidering training, regimes, and perfection over the years is way more difficult than the golden Mcgrath...

Bash on me but i think that Modern day racing cosidering training, regimes, and perfection over the years is way more difficult than the golden Mcgrath years, Carmichael started all of this professionalism and actually Kicked Mc´s ass.

You would see Mc and the guys partying, having fun, drinking and being awesome all the time, with Ricky that kinda ended, he was a lot more focused and strict and it did pay, dude was unbeatable because he trained and put all his time and effort to be the best.

 

Nowadays everyone does it so to me, it is a lot more difficult.

You clearly know nothing of MC, or the fact that he showed RC the fast way around the track for two years in his late 20's.

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2/25/2024 12:10pm
Spudinki45 wrote:
I have a feeling Jett will figure it out very shortly. Fastest rider all day. Made one mistake in the main, and got too frisky with...

I have a feeling Jett will figure it out very shortly. Fastest rider all day. Made one mistake in the main, and got too frisky with Friese at the end. He’ll learn and when he does no one will be able to match his speed.

Guess you missed that Tomac’s lap times in the main were faster then Jeff’s. 

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2/25/2024 12:21pm
Mace-x wrote:
Bash on me but i think that Modern day racing cosidering training, regimes, and perfection over the years is way more difficult than the golden Mcgrath...

Bash on me but i think that Modern day racing cosidering training, regimes, and perfection over the years is way more difficult than the golden Mcgrath years, Carmichael started all of this professionalism and actually Kicked Mc´s ass.

You would see Mc and the guys partying, having fun, drinking and being awesome all the time, with Ricky that kinda ended, he was a lot more focused and strict and it did pay, dude was unbeatable because he trained and put all his time and effort to be the best.

 

Nowadays everyone does it so to me, it is a lot more difficult.

The MC slander has certainly reached peak levels in recent years...

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2/25/2024 12:23pm Edited Date/Time 2/25/2024 12:24pm
Mace-x wrote:
Bash on me but i think that Modern day racing cosidering training, regimes, and perfection over the years is way more difficult than the golden Mcgrath...

Bash on me but i think that Modern day racing cosidering training, regimes, and perfection over the years is way more difficult than the golden Mcgrath years, Carmichael started all of this professionalism and actually Kicked Mc´s ass.

You would see Mc and the guys partying, having fun, drinking and being awesome all the time, with Ricky that kinda ended, he was a lot more focused and strict and it did pay, dude was unbeatable because he trained and put all his time and effort to be the best.

 

Nowadays everyone does it so to me, it is a lot more difficult.

Ricky definitely could have affected hurt Lake Havasu's economy 😂 Lucky there were so many other people from other sports and walks of life to keep the place flush with cash.

I hear what you're saying, the elite of the elite will always come through but it has to be an equaliser to some degree now everyone has good technique, everyone trains hard, science and technology and analysis aid both of those, also the current bikes bridging the gap somewhat compared to old two stroke days where a factory bike was near untouchable by the average Joe.

Not taking anything away from MC and the older guard, they're legends and as a kid some were my heroes.

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ACBailey89 wrote:
Not gonna happen, way too much speed and talent in this day and age. The dominant ages of MC/RC are done.  Back in there day they...

Not gonna happen, way too much speed and talent in this day and age. The dominant ages of MC/RC are done. 

Back in there day they could crash in the first corner and still get back up and at minimum get back on the podium. Not so much now.

Uhh…ET3 last night?

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2/25/2024 12:37pm
Richy wrote:
Ricky definitely could have affected hurt Lake Havasu's economy 😂 Lucky there were so many other people from other sports and walks of life to keep...

Ricky definitely could have affected hurt Lake Havasu's economy 😂 Lucky there were so many other people from other sports and walks of life to keep the place flush with cash.

I hear what you're saying, the elite of the elite will always come through but it has to be an equaliser to some degree now everyone has good technique, everyone trains hard, science and technology and analysis aid both of those, also the current bikes bridging the gap somewhat compared to old two stroke days where a factory bike was near untouchable by the average Joe.

Not taking anything away from MC and the older guard, they're legends and as a kid some were my heroes.

SX wins:

RC- 72 Eli- 51 Stew- 50 RC- 48

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2/25/2024 12:39pm

In a 15 round series too. Jett’s got two extra chances. 

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2/25/2024 12:45pm Edited Date/Time 2/25/2024 12:51pm

For the record, RC caught MC at the tail-end of his career. Just as Stew caught RC at his. 

For MC to have 24 more wins than RC is a staggering amount. 

MC was an indoor specialist, RC more outdoors than indoors, and James both but too many getoffs. 

Too compare RC to MC indoors is laughable. But the provocateur provoked so mission accomplished 🏆

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2/25/2024 12:54pm
Spudinki45 wrote:
I have a feeling Jett will figure it out very shortly. Fastest rider all day. Made one mistake in the main, and got too frisky with...

I have a feeling Jett will figure it out very shortly. Fastest rider all day. Made one mistake in the main, and got too frisky with Friese at the end. He’ll learn and when he does no one will be able to match his speed.

Guess you missed that Tomac’s lap times in the main were faster then Jeff’s. 

Why would he need to match Tomac's lap times when he was in first maintaining a 4sec gap on Webb?

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2/25/2024 12:54pm

Guess you missed that Tomac’s lap times in the main were faster then Jeff’s. 

Sounds like you just don't like Australians! Gosh I love that one 🙄

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Spudinki45 wrote:
I have a feeling Jett will figure it out very shortly. Fastest rider all day. Made one mistake in the main, and got too frisky with...

I have a feeling Jett will figure it out very shortly. Fastest rider all day. Made one mistake in the main, and got too frisky with Friese at the end. He’ll learn and when he does no one will be able to match his speed.

Guess you missed that Tomac’s lap times in the main were faster then Jeff’s. 

Why would he need to match Tomac's lap times when he was in first maintaining a 4sec gap on Webb?

So when he fell he would have enough time to get up still in the lead 🤷‍♂️

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2/25/2024 1:00pm
Spudinki45 wrote:
I have a feeling Jett will figure it out very shortly. Fastest rider all day. Made one mistake in the main, and got too frisky with...

I have a feeling Jett will figure it out very shortly. Fastest rider all day. Made one mistake in the main, and got too frisky with Friese at the end. He’ll learn and when he does no one will be able to match his speed.

ILoveMoto wrote:

They couldn't match Stew's speed either.

Yeah everyone always talks about how Jett is just like Stew. Always riding on the ragged edge that Jett

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2/25/2024 1:02pm

Guess you missed that Tomac’s lap times in the main were faster then Jeff’s. 

Why would he need to match Tomac's lap times when he was in first maintaining a 4sec gap on Webb?

yak651 wrote:

So when he fell he would have enough time to get up still in the lead 🤷‍♂️

I would think just don't make the mistake would be a better plan but you aren't wrong either

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2/25/2024 1:09pm

Yeah everyone always talks about how Jett is just like Stew. Always riding on the ragged edge that Jett

How many crashes last night counting practice for Jett? It's too early to tell but he looks much better outdoors than indoors. The proof is the tight points battle in SX vs him and Chase destroying the field in outdoors last year.

Keep crashing and it'll eventually bite ya! We've all seen it over and over again. 

P.s. I still haven't measured Kitchen 🤓

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2/25/2024 1:16pm

Bottom line jett needs 71 more wins to have that record , 

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Bottom line jett needs 71 more wins to have that record , 

That's all 🤢

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2/25/2024 1:25pm

Yeah everyone always talks about how Jett is just like Stew. Always riding on the ragged edge that Jett

ILoveMoto wrote:
How many crashes last night counting practice for Jett? It's too early to tell but he looks much better outdoors than indoors. The proof is the tight...

How many crashes last night counting practice for Jett? It's too early to tell but he looks much better outdoors than indoors. The proof is the tight points battle in SX vs him and Chase destroying the field in outdoors last year.

Keep crashing and it'll eventually bite ya! We've all seen it over and over again. 

P.s. I still haven't measured Kitchen 🤓

I said the same thing earlier. One of these he's not walking away from. The last race he shorted that double twice. 

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2/25/2024 1:35pm
Richy wrote:
Ricky definitely could have affected hurt Lake Havasu's economy 😂 Lucky there were so many other people from other sports and walks of life to keep...

Ricky definitely could have affected hurt Lake Havasu's economy 😂 Lucky there were so many other people from other sports and walks of life to keep the place flush with cash.

I hear what you're saying, the elite of the elite will always come through but it has to be an equaliser to some degree now everyone has good technique, everyone trains hard, science and technology and analysis aid both of those, also the current bikes bridging the gap somewhat compared to old two stroke days where a factory bike was near untouchable by the average Joe.

Not taking anything away from MC and the older guard, they're legends and as a kid some were my heroes.

ILoveMoto wrote:

SX wins:

RC- 72 Eli- 51 Stew- 50 RC- 48

MC-72…c’mon man who loves moto!!

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2/25/2024 1:50pm Edited Date/Time 2/25/2024 4:14pm

This current version of Jett reminds me more of Stewart than McGrath.  7 wins a year for 10 years...  Or 10 wins a year for 7 years, just for perspective.  I don't see it, but we won't know for at least another 5 years if there is even a realistic chance.

 

I did like the Herlings interview at Hawkstone saying Jett is the fastest.  He thought he might have had something for him in 2018, but nothing today.

Vialle's podium interview was good and interesting too.  Said MX2 doesn't have the pace of US 250 class.  Was he comparing his US outdoors to last year's MXoN?  Would love to have had more context to his comment.

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Spudinki45 wrote:
I have a feeling Jett will figure it out very shortly. Fastest rider all day. Made one mistake in the main, and got too frisky with...

I have a feeling Jett will figure it out very shortly. Fastest rider all day. Made one mistake in the main, and got too frisky with Friese at the end. He’ll learn and when he does no one will be able to match his speed.

Guess you missed that Tomac’s lap times in the main were faster then Jeff’s. 

Correct! And had the faster heat than Jett’s!

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2/25/2024 4:18pm

It's been an awesome season so far for Jett and Hunter finishing P1 and P2 every race....

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2/25/2024 4:21pm Edited Date/Time 2/25/2024 4:24pm
Yz450fkid wrote:

Jetts raced 7 races for 2 wins.

Mcgrath had 0 wins after his 1st 7 races.

McGrath's 10th win came on his 22nd race.

Try reading my post again but slower

Mcgrath had raced 6 sx races b4 his "rookie" season. Was he even a really a rookie in 1993? Lately ppl have been saying about other riders that's to many to be a rookie. Is hymas a rookie this year?

Hypothetically if Jett raced 6 450 sx races last season he could have learned a few things and been in a better position.

But that doesn't change the fact thru there first 7 supercross races jett has 2 wins and mc had 0.

Mcgrath was also a fair bit older. 

Comparing some stats to other ain't always even.

Jett could lose this season. And win next season and still have his 1st title at a younger age then mc.

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