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mohammed wrote:
looks like hes on cruise control for most of the race and then turns on the turbo when he needs to. The young lads are giving...
looks like hes on cruise control for most of the race and then turns on the turbo when he needs to. The young lads are giving it there all barcia and stroupe but pourcel is bit too much for them. I see pourcel going undefeated this sx season.
No shit. The nut-suckler Euro's are lucky it's only a half season Lites class. Pourcel stands the best chance to cherrypick a limited number of races for an undefeated season with a set-up like that.
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Pourcel is bad ass. Slowly becoming a fan of that kid.
MX Culture wrote:
agreed...awesome riding, period. Talked to him after the race and he was a cool as could be. My whole perception of him has changed after that...
agreed...awesome riding, period. Talked to him after the race and he was a cool as could be. My whole perception of him has changed after that 3 minute conversation.
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I was in Toronto last year when he clinched the the title and his whole family seemed so stoked on winning.

To be honest I wasn't really a fan at first mostly because of people like Mccread. But after his podium interview last night I became a fan
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Sorry, that win was far from a gift.
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I was there and saw the same race as Rupert X. Yes Pourcel is fast and smooth but he was definately not in cuise control mode. It was apparent to me that Stroupe, Barcia, et al have picked it up a notch or three and are not going to roll over and watch CP ride off with the title without some major resistance. Stroupe was the one that looked like he had things under control after the first few frantic laps. He appeared to have an answer for everything CP threw at him until he gave it away and Pourcel seized the opportunity. Props to Dean Wilson for his effort the first half of the race. That was one of the most exciting races I've ever seen in person!

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2/28/2010 1:54pm
CP himself said he had to push hard last night. That should end the discussion.
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XBUTCHX wrote:
Sorry, that win was far from a gift.
Really? Let's see....leader goes down in turn with a 3 to go and causes the 2nd place guy to check up and go around to allow the 3rd place guy to go on for the win...hmm.. gift to me..

Anyway, it is what it is and that's a win for CP.
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2/28/2010 2:41pm
How do you say,"Dee, Dee, Dee" in French?

Someone call Carlos Mencia and see if he knows French...
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2/28/2010 2:43pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 9:05pm
It's funny how alot of the Pourcel fans (as well as a lot of French fans in general) are complaining about Barcia riding "Dirty".....seems to me there was a certain Frenchman who had a similar level of aggression not too long ago by the name of Roncada....


Its all good, passionate racing. Good up on all the guys last night, what an amazing competitive display!
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2/28/2010 2:56pm
TeamGreen wrote:
How do you say,"Dee, Dee, Dee" in French?

Someone call Carlos Mencia and see if he knows French...
Vert d'équipe
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2/28/2010 2:59pm Edited Date/Time 2/28/2010 3:00pm
XBUTCHX wrote:
Sorry, that win was far from a gift.
jbomx363 wrote:
Really? Let's see....leader goes down in turn with a 3 to go and causes the 2nd place guy to check up and go around to allow...
Really? Let's see....leader goes down in turn with a 3 to go and causes the 2nd place guy to check up and go around to allow the 3rd place guy to go on for the win...hmm.. gift to me..

Anyway, it is what it is and that's a win for CP.
the others made errors under pressure. by pushing. What made them push harder, what made them ride on the edge? There's no gift in racing, they are errors resulting in crash or mechanicals, most of the time resulting from trying to catch up or trying to resist passes from another rider.
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Yo, Shenzi...

You cold also mention Red Georgia Clay...

Etc.

We'll see where this season takes us.
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The poster who felt Barcia was riding wild apparently didn't watch the same race as I did. He was riding angry after CP cut his line. I've played it back a few times and Barcia made a clean pass not a block pass. Came inside and didn't touch him or cut across his line. CP was miffed from him being so close that he couldn't plant his foot in the turn because Barcia came in. Pourcel became pissed thinking I have the red plate give me respect and wait for me to make the turn.

quote from interview " I'm the #1 and I don't want anyone to push me out" BS!!

Barcia was riding better then Pourcel and was being held up by all his blocking crap games. Pourcel is smooth and has the stamina and talent to become a great sx rider in the future. Wait until he tries his little games on Reed, Poto and Stewart they'll be using him as berm and sending him into the cheap seats.

Respect is earned from winning by being faster and consistant not by taking out the competition to win.

CP most likely gave Barcia a reason to press on his training/racing and will get more then his share of wins against him.

Pourcel was rattled that Stroupe and Barcia were faster then him and wasn't expecting their speed thinking he would be alone out front.

As Fro mentioned he was damaged goods after casing the quad earlier in practice and hurt his back but he just gave up his edge to Stroupe and Barcia letting them know he can be beat.
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2/28/2010 3:29pm
XBUTCHX wrote:
Sorry, that win was far from a gift.
jbomx363 wrote:
Really? Let's see....leader goes down in turn with a 3 to go and causes the 2nd place guy to check up and go around to allow...
Really? Let's see....leader goes down in turn with a 3 to go and causes the 2nd place guy to check up and go around to allow the 3rd place guy to go on for the win...hmm.. gift to me..

Anyway, it is what it is and that's a win for CP.
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the others made errors under pressure. by pushing. What made them push harder, what made them ride on the edge? There's no gift in racing, they...
the others made errors under pressure. by pushing. What made them push harder, what made them ride on the edge? There's no gift in racing, they are errors resulting in crash or mechanicals, most of the time resulting from trying to catch up or trying to resist passes from another rider.
I respectfully disagree that there aren't any gifts.. that was a gift.

Rock in the dirt is not the cause of riding on the edge..

Mechanicals are gifts as it's no fault of the rider.

Guess you didn't watch four legends today either.. where every one of them said they got a gift in some way or another on some of their wins.
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2/28/2010 3:29pm
I think you guys are saying....





It wasn't


straight up
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the others made errors under pressure. by pushing. What made them push harder, what made them ride on the edge? There's no gift in racing, they...
the others made errors under pressure. by pushing. What made them push harder, what made them ride on the edge? There's no gift in racing, they are errors resulting in crash or mechanicals, most of the time resulting from trying to catch up or trying to resist passes from another rider.
BINGO!
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luv2ridemx wrote:
The poster who felt Barcia was riding wild apparently didn't watch the same race as I did. He was riding angry after CP cut his line...
The poster who felt Barcia was riding wild apparently didn't watch the same race as I did. He was riding angry after CP cut his line. I've played it back a few times and Barcia made a clean pass not a block pass. Came inside and didn't touch him or cut across his line. CP was miffed from him being so close that he couldn't plant his foot in the turn because Barcia came in. Pourcel became pissed thinking I have the red plate give me respect and wait for me to make the turn.

quote from interview " I'm the #1 and I don't want anyone to push me out" BS!!

Barcia was riding better then Pourcel and was being held up by all his blocking crap games. Pourcel is smooth and has the stamina and talent to become a great sx rider in the future. Wait until he tries his little games on Reed, Poto and Stewart they'll be using him as berm and sending him into the cheap seats.

Respect is earned from winning by being faster and consistant not by taking out the competition to win.

CP most likely gave Barcia a reason to press on his training/racing and will get more then his share of wins against him.

Pourcel was rattled that Stroupe and Barcia were faster then him and wasn't expecting their speed thinking he would be alone out front.

As Fro mentioned he was damaged goods after casing the quad earlier in practice and hurt his back but he just gave up his edge to Stroupe and Barcia letting them know he can be beat.
wow you are so wrong... Barcia started it on Pourcel... he started it with Wilson int he heat.. he started it with Davalos in practice and he started it with Stroupe last year...

If you bothered watching Pourcel from 2005 you will see he never rides like that,

Respect is earned by being faster and not taking out the competition to win...so by that definition Pourcel has done that time and again - look at his titles and race wins....Compare that to Barcia's record- who should respect who?

Pourcel is number one why should he allow some kid to try and take him out? He started playing Barcia's game giving him a tast of his own medicine not the other way round... I have never seen Pourcel ride like that before.

I like Barcia and he is great to watch but he needs to respect Pourcel's speed and learn how the former world champ and defending supercross champ wins - patience. MC never rode like Barcia and he is the King of supercross.

It's not just Pourcel, If Barcia did that to RC, Barcia would have been in the cheap seats... look what he did to Roncada...

Pourcel probably can't wait to race a 450 to get out of the destruction derby of the 250fs.
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2/28/2010 4:13pm Edited Date/Time 2/28/2010 4:17pm
Way late on a response. I respectfully withdraw and await the next stupid submission.
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SteveS wrote:
I think you guys are saying....





It wasn't


straight up
Not me..
2/28/2010 4:18pm
These east guys are putting on a great show. I'm a huge fan of Pourcel but if he is looking for respect he is in the wrong class.
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mohammed wrote:
looks like hes on cruise control for most of the race and then turns on the turbo when he needs to. The young lads are giving...
looks like hes on cruise control for most of the race and then turns on the turbo when he needs to. The young lads are giving it there all barcia and stroupe but pourcel is bit too much for them. I see pourcel going undefeated this sx season.
Gift My Ass!!!

He got to the chequers first...

Wilson faded, great ride...

Barcia got over excited...

Stroupe went down...

It isn't who can go the fastest at some point in the race...

It's who can get to the chequers the fastest!!!
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luv2ridemx wrote:
The poster who felt Barcia was riding wild apparently didn't watch the same race as I did. He was riding angry after CP cut his line...
The poster who felt Barcia was riding wild apparently didn't watch the same race as I did. He was riding angry after CP cut his line. I've played it back a few times and Barcia made a clean pass not a block pass. Came inside and didn't touch him or cut across his line. CP was miffed from him being so close that he couldn't plant his foot in the turn because Barcia came in. Pourcel became pissed thinking I have the red plate give me respect and wait for me to make the turn.

quote from interview " I'm the #1 and I don't want anyone to push me out" BS!!

Barcia was riding better then Pourcel and was being held up by all his blocking crap games. Pourcel is smooth and has the stamina and talent to become a great sx rider in the future. Wait until he tries his little games on Reed, Poto and Stewart they'll be using him as berm and sending him into the cheap seats.

Respect is earned from winning by being faster and consistant not by taking out the competition to win.

CP most likely gave Barcia a reason to press on his training/racing and will get more then his share of wins against him.

Pourcel was rattled that Stroupe and Barcia were faster then him and wasn't expecting their speed thinking he would be alone out front.

As Fro mentioned he was damaged goods after casing the quad earlier in practice and hurt his back but he just gave up his edge to Stroupe and Barcia letting them know he can be beat.
thats totally true.i just rewatched the race again andit was as you said. plus right off the start pourcelran into him in the 3rd turn off the start, starting this whole bumping thing
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After the 1st set of whoops, Barcia ran over CP's foot in that left hander it looked like, then CP took him to the bales...

Regardless, JB isn't making any friends out there...

Davalos, CP, Stroupe so far... 2nd race in a long season... Maybe not the best tactic...
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There are no gifts in SX, Pourcel earned that one last night. His talent is matched by his mental toughness.
The other amazing thing is that Stroupe and Barcia can equal his speed and who in the world is Dean Wilson?Smile
They are going to have to do more than go fast to beat Pourcel though.
Pourcel will not win every race this season. He will only need to win 1 or 2 more to take the championship.

Without a doubt one of the most exciting SX seasons I have ever seen.
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McCream says "wow you are so wrong... Barcia started it on Pourcel... he started it with Wilson int he heat.. he started it with Davalos in practice and he started it with Stroupe last year... " ok he's passionate about competing with other equals where does this bring in CP to play big brother. I heard that Davalos was the one not allowed to race therefore your saying the AMA caught the wrong guy?

Respect is earned by being faster and not taking out the competition to win...so by that definition Pourcel has done that time and again - look at his titles and race wins...."Compare that to Barcia's record- who should respect who? "

After watching Pourcel the champion I don't believe he deserves respect from Barcia others maybe.



I didn't see the altercation of practice or time trial but your response doesn't hold water for the reasoning a champion going for a title stoops down to engage in a game with another rider he had no previous contact with. Am I missing something that occured between them?

Has this become tag team sx? Dean and Stroupe are more then capable of handling their own revenge.

Champions race the track and don't play games. He lost the battle because he can no longer race his race Barcia has entered into his head. Just as Dungey is being bothered by Jlaws antics.

A champion has one goal in mind and it doesn't include revenge on rookies in the main event.

Barcia is a rookie and he is expected to make mistakes just as JS did with Mc at Anaheim by his cheap block pass. He lit up the boards with that shank display of disrespect. Champions live by better standards and are respected by their peers for their display of tactfulness.


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this is just a warm up for the outdoors
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Rupert X wrote:
I guess I saw a different race. I saw an incredibly talented rider that normally checks out - struggling to maintain a solid footing up front...


I guess I saw a different race. I saw an incredibly talented rider that normally

checks out - struggling to maintain a solid footing up front and, for a while there,

it looked like Metcalfe or whoever it was - might even put him back to fifth - with a few laps

left. Everybody up front was hanging it out and everybody was making little

mistakes here and there, so the reality is, that I'm not confident that Pourcel was

confident when he was fighting off Barcia and crowd, I think he was in panic mode

with the other riders able to get deep inside his helmet. I think he was fortunate that

things played out like they did and, his erratic behavior on the podium reflected that

he was truly shaken up by the upstart challengers.
I agree with you for the most part too, it looked like a classic case of a rider under estimating his competition, does that mean he is capable of more? I guess that is what the coming weeks will have to prove/disprove.

BTW Rupert, why do you insist on writing double spaced? Just curious...
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2/28/2010 7:49pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 9:05pm
luv2ridemx wrote:
McCream says "wow you are so wrong... Barcia started it on Pourcel... he started it with Wilson int he heat.. he started it with Davalos in...
McCream says "wow you are so wrong... Barcia started it on Pourcel... he started it with Wilson int he heat.. he started it with Davalos in practice and he started it with Stroupe last year... " ok he's passionate about competing with other equals where does this bring in CP to play big brother. I heard that Davalos was the one not allowed to race therefore your saying the AMA caught the wrong guy?

Respect is earned by being faster and not taking out the competition to win...so by that definition Pourcel has done that time and again - look at his titles and race wins...."Compare that to Barcia's record- who should respect who? "

After watching Pourcel the champion I don't believe he deserves respect from Barcia others maybe.



I didn't see the altercation of practice or time trial but your response doesn't hold water for the reasoning a champion going for a title stoops down to engage in a game with another rider he had no previous contact with. Am I missing something that occured between them?

Has this become tag team sx? Dean and Stroupe are more then capable of handling their own revenge.

Champions race the track and don't play games. He lost the battle because he can no longer race his race Barcia has entered into his head. Just as Dungey is being bothered by Jlaws antics.

A champion has one goal in mind and it doesn't include revenge on rookies in the main event.

Barcia is a rookie and he is expected to make mistakes just as JS did with Mc at Anaheim by his cheap block pass. He lit up the boards with that shank display of disrespect. Champions live by better standards and are respected by their peers for their display of tactfulness.


Bubba wasn't even close to being a rookie when he took out "The King". Total bullshit and lack of respect move on Bubbas part. He's a punk and will never fill MC's shoes. In fact he's not even worthy of holding MC's Jockstrap!

As for Pourcel, who the hell is he? He a guy with a B-class title from Europe and a Lites class SX C-ship from the USA. I doubt Barcia gives two-shits about the2 titles CP has.
If CP were a little more humble, he may garner more respect form his peer group.
He's another JMB in the making. The American fans and riders will eventually ostercize his ass.
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Bubba wasn't even close to being a rookie when he took out "The King". Total bullshit and lack of respect move on Bubbas part. He's a...
Bubba wasn't even close to being a rookie when he took out "The King". Total bullshit and lack of respect move on Bubbas part. He's a punk and will never fill MC's shoes. In fact he's not even worthy of holding MC's Jockstrap!

As for Pourcel, who the hell is he? He a guy with a B-class title from Europe and a Lites class SX C-ship from the USA. I doubt Barcia gives two-shits about the2 titles CP has.
If CP were a little more humble, he may garner more respect form his peer group.
He's another JMB in the making. The American fans and riders will eventually ostercize his ass.
WOW, you are so ridiculous, lol. That "b-class title in Europe" and that Lites class SX championship in the USA mean more than you think, you need to calm down, i don't think you thought about what you were going to say before you put your emotional fingers to the keyboard. People work their whole lives to get titles like that, there are a lot of very respectable riders out there who still haven't got a lites title, Andrew Short is one for example, think Shorty would say "maaaah those years in the lites class dont count for shit?"
Just sayin....
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the interview he did at transworld after the race he seemed cool, he came off really good
2/28/2010 8:43pm
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wow you are so wrong... Barcia started it on Pourcel... he started it with Wilson int he heat.. he started it with Davalos in practice and...
wow you are so wrong... Barcia started it on Pourcel... he started it with Wilson int he heat.. he started it with Davalos in practice and he started it with Stroupe last year...

If you bothered watching Pourcel from 2005 you will see he never rides like that,

Respect is earned by being faster and not taking out the competition to win...so by that definition Pourcel has done that time and again - look at his titles and race wins....Compare that to Barcia's record- who should respect who?

Pourcel is number one why should he allow some kid to try and take him out? He started playing Barcia's game giving him a tast of his own medicine not the other way round... I have never seen Pourcel ride like that before.

I like Barcia and he is great to watch but he needs to respect Pourcel's speed and learn how the former world champ and defending supercross champ wins - patience. MC never rode like Barcia and he is the King of supercross.

It's not just Pourcel, If Barcia did that to RC, Barcia would have been in the cheap seats... look what he did to Roncada...

Pourcel probably can't wait to race a 450 to get out of the destruction derby of the 250fs.
I doubt Barcia gives a shit about Pourcel and his sandbagging red #1 plate. Pourcel was the 3rd fastest rider on Saturday. He got lucky and came away with a win. It must be frustrating for Pourcel to have a young rookie run faster lap times in only his second SX. Barcia is not a dirty rider but he does race to win. Maybe Pourcel can learn a thing or two from Barcia.

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