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Dude gained 40 million from 20... Nice leap during war times
You don't think the IPs he had stakes in didn't blow up when he became an internationally household name?
I actually don't give a rats ass either way. We shouldn't be in Ukraine Period. Stop spending money fighting a war that we don't belong in. Specifically when our infrastructure is outdated, Americans are struggling mightily, vets are treated like shit, and people are flooding in to our country. Work on things here first. We are not the worlds police and it is the constant war mongering old school congress who wants us in war.
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I think everyone (no matter which side of the aisle they stand) can agree that there is a war going on.
The outcome and results of this war will affect the entire world and determine future events.
This war, like all wars, is based power and money. It is based on the desire to control land/resources/populations so they can therefore exploit the land/resources/population.
these are the basic facts that I don’t think anyone can argue or disagree over.
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however IMO the biggest threat to our “democracy” (I am American).
The biggest threat to my health, my personal/economic freedoms, my wellbeing and my children's future is the government of the United States of America.
our own government poses the largest threat to our “democracy” and way of life!
Jesus Christ thank you... someone who can see the larger picture
You just keep parroting Russian bullshit.
Do you think that if America went full isolationist, only spending money internally, that it would be doing better?
America needs the ability to trade openly and freely around the world, to sustain its economy. That is what has built the American economy, and why it needs to protect it.
Even China is begging for help against the Houthis now, as they’re finally understanding the importance of this.
The US has placed 150 bases around Russia due to Russians aggression. Does it matter? The bases are there to help protect NATO members. It’s not up to Russia to dictate what neighbouring countries do with their land, it’s not theirs.
How come countries come begging to join NATO, to be free of Russia, but the only way countries join Russia is to be invaded?
You should look at all the countries that were apart of the Soviet Union and ask yourself why they are donating to Ukraine so heavily, more than anyone else?
Because they don’t want to go back! And if someone like Kongols, is here giving first hand experience, maybe you should actually listen.
What are Russian talking points? I didn’t realize you were so familiar with them. Is it Richard Maddow giving you these lines to say? Because you haven’t said a damn thing that makes sense. If you have NATO why would you be so fearful of Russia? You have Poland, Germany, France, etc etc. so again…. Your fear is from your idiotic talking points given to you because they are not logical. It is truly funny that I belong to a trading forum and a moto forum and all counter arguments for being in Ukraine are the exact same thing. Not only that, I can look them up on the internet in 5 seconds all from the major media sources that have lied non stop. So when you say stimulate the economy and Russia threatens all of those countries you are bereft of any thought for yourself. Start looking outside of your little box and you will see a much different picture.
Since you never actually answer anything, only change subject, I’ll ask you this.
Do you think that Russia has an interest in weakening America and causing division?
To answer your first question full isolation? If NATO all kicked in together the way it should then yes I think it would be fine. I don not fear Russia. Just go look at military size and dollars into defense and start thinking a bit. It isn’t my choice if they do or do not have interest just like it shouldn’t be ours for Ukraine.
So I don't like the war. I'm against that Russia invaded another country. Having said that, have you ever heard of the Budapest memorandum? Back in 1994 Ukraine was sitting on a bunch of cold war nukes. Ukraine signed a deal with us, England, and Russia I believe, that if they gave up their nukes, we would come to their defense if they ever got invaded. Well, they gave up their nukes, and now they are getting invaded. The problem is, The US and England didn't stop Russia when Obama was in office (Crimea) which led Putin to believe he could go in again. And when we had the chance to stop a tiny little convoy stuck in the mud with dilapidated equipment, Uncle Joe shit the bed. They let the problem get bigger and bigger and bigger. Why? They're all making money off it while people are dying. So it's complicated to say the least.
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Yeah Zycki, he was quite the entertainer.
Sorry I don't exactly think the US working to overthrow the Ukrainian government is some "Russian conspiracy theory"
Yes I have heard of it, as well as the many agreements never met by both countries while Ukraine is just a shiny gold pawn in all of it. It sucks ass that people are losing their lives, and loved ones lives over power hungry fucks from our country, Russia, and Ukraine.
America does not need any help from Russia on weakening the country and causing division, America are doing a great job of that internally right now. Same goes for many other western countries.
Looks like this thread ran it`s course if some here want me dead. I will delete it, so say your piece.
It doesn`t look like some here can wrap their head around a fact that somebody wants freedom and independence and fight and die for it. You`ve lived in most powerful country in the world and never had to fight for it.
Everything here is left vs right. EVERYTHING! Even the fight thousands of miles away is left vs right in your eyes.
I don’t see anything in this thread that would warrant that kind of threat towards you.
You were a member here before this all started. If you were a new user stirring shit I would get it.
Why anyone wouldn’t value the perspective you bring is beyond me.
Just as I was saying since the beggining of war- there is no difference in antics and thinking between Hitler and Putin.
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I met two American guys that have been working in Ukraine, they are definitely confused by what our media says about the situation. According to them it’s actually quite different than what’s being reported. 🤷🏻♂️ just what they told me over some beers.
go on
I enjoy your prospective man please take care I'm pulling for you
Please hang in there Kongols. Despite the recent back-and-forth bullshit spewing posts, a lot of us are behind you100%.
Russian army is not what’s depicted in our media. Not a bunch of degenerates convicts with old AKs. 🤷🏼♂️ just what I was told from some people there, no idea of the actual facts. I look to this thread for view points besides the spoon fed stuff from official outlets. I like hearing from Kongols
I may have missed it, but who wanted you dead?
Perspective jfc lol
If I was to guess and I don't want to speak out of turn, but this is a very real and life or death situation. Letting the Russians win is obviously not an option for people living in that part of the world. As much as some people look at the dollar sign, this war would not still be going without blood sweat and tears from the people there. And as kongols had said before, he doesn't want to go back behind the iron curtain.
Nah. It was a member here posting about me and Zelensky in a bag. I hope he was totally drunk when he posted it. He deleted his posts.
Sadly I can not delete this thread. It throws error 503. Unless mods delete it, we are stuck posting nonsense.
Was this a ‘regular’ here?
Were the edited words an attempt at antisemitic inferences? I’m not sure what else it may have been.
This is not the world I was expecting when I was a kid. As it turns out...folks don't want peace and prosperity for everyone. They want money and power for themselves. You'd think I'd be embarrassed by my naivety but I'm not. I'm ashamed for our inability to be better.
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