2024 Kawasaki KX450 and KX450X

2/5/2024 1:30am
philip_DJ wrote:

who's cage is this? 

Brent wrote:

You get one guess…

wont be available until late spring- maybe with an alloy cage…

TA

2/5/2024 2:51am

Wow! I was all into buying one of these bikes, maybe I’ll wait for the 25. 

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2/5/2024 3:27am
Sandusky26 wrote:
I don't know how I feel about opoxy on my 11,000 dollar overpriced hunk of shit. I paid a dealer for "prep" and I unload my...

I don't know how I feel about opoxy on my 11,000 dollar overpriced hunk of shit.

I paid a dealer for "prep" and I unload my bike, and the dealer left the coating on my brake rotors. So now my pads are fucked thanks to Big Rock Powersports.

Would you guys be okay with me smearing a 5 gallon bucket of tar on your roof and handing you a bill?

 

Wouldn't have this problem if you bought another RMZ bro!

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2/5/2024 5:47am
Sandusky26 wrote:
I don't know how I feel about opoxy on my 11,000 dollar overpriced hunk of shit. I paid a dealer for "prep" and I unload my...

I don't know how I feel about opoxy on my 11,000 dollar overpriced hunk of shit.

I paid a dealer for "prep" and I unload my bike, and the dealer left the coating on my brake rotors. So now my pads are fucked thanks to Big Rock Powersports.

Would you guys be okay with me smearing a 5 gallon bucket of tar on your roof and handing you a bill?

 

Wouldn't have this problem if you bought another RMZ bro!

Or he could’ve bought the new penton. Not as much overpriced as it is a piece of shit. 

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2/5/2024 6:26am

Should have brought a zero turn and called it a career 

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2/5/2024 7:30am
Sandusky26 wrote:

Should have brought a zero turn and called it a career 

*started

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2/5/2024 8:09am
Bow977 wrote:
9 hours on mine and no issues.   

9 hours on mine and no issues. 

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Nice bike! Is that frame grip tape? Another thing to add to the list lol. (After my frame saga is sorted out) Who makes them? Thanks!

JkopMx wrote:

None other than anchor tape ! Fitment is awesome specially on the new bike . Use JKOPMX and get you a little discount 

Got you. Thanks man. 

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2/5/2024 2:00pm

I’m not doing this bullshit “repair”. Have over 15 hours of hard Moto and it’s fine, obv will keep an eye on it but if I ever see a crack (doubt it) will have a pro welder fix it right. With the JB weld “fix” you would never know if a crack is forming. 

I remember when yami’s were having bad welds by head tube, that’s potentially catastrophic. Always take a close look at welds periodically on all brands.

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2/5/2024 2:40pm Edited Date/Time 2/5/2024 4:09pm
RCMXracing wrote:
I’m not doing this bullshit “repair”. Have over 15 hours of hard Moto and it’s fine, obv will keep an eye on it but if I...

I’m not doing this bullshit “repair”. Have over 15 hours of hard Moto and it’s fine, obv will keep an eye on it but if I ever see a crack (doubt it) will have a pro welder fix it right. With the JB weld “fix” you would never know if a crack is forming. 

I remember when yami’s were having bad welds by head tube, that’s potentially catastrophic. Always take a close look at welds periodically on all brands.

I'm stuck in the middle. Purchased the bike 9 days ago. 3 days later they called me about the recall and said I need to have it inspected. They also couldn't register the bike until the recall was addressed. They inspected the frame today and no cracks were found, so it's getting the epoxy. Bike can't be registered until then, so I really have no other option. (ViN 734). And if I were to have it welded and cracks later down the road (even in another location) they sure as hell won't cover a replacement frame under the recall.  

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2/5/2024 7:27pm

Finally got the Vortex mapped for this bike, now just waiting on the motor...

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2/6/2024 5:43am
Brent wrote:
Finally got the Vortex mapped for this bike, now just waiting on the motor...

Finally got the Vortex mapped for this bike, now just waiting on the motor...

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Are you going to JB weld your frame?

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2/6/2024 11:47am
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Are you going to JB weld your frame?

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2/6/2024 12:02pm

Wow! I was all into buying one of these bikes, maybe I’ll wait for the 25. 

Same here i will get a 24 anyway. It's probably just a few batches of frames that are affected. And Kawasaki seems to take care of it.

It looks like they rode on this frame since 2022 in Japan and a full gp season 2023 so it seems like its well tested.

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2/6/2024 12:06pm

For the amount they’ll spend in r&d and warranty repairs they probably could have just released a standard model with the sr mods for the standard price and had a tried and true shootout killer.

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2/6/2024 2:52pm
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For the amount they’ll spend in r&d and warranty repairs they probably could have just released a standard model with the sr mods for the standard...

For the amount they’ll spend in r&d and warranty repairs they probably could have just released a standard model with the sr mods for the standard price and had a tried and true shootout killer.

This model is much improved over the previous generation, and I am sure they will continue to fine tune it.

2/6/2024 3:12pm Edited Date/Time 2/6/2024 4:13pm

Not sure what adhesive Kawasaki is suppling dealers with, but I can assume it's far superior than the JB weld everyone keeps throwing out. Polaris and much of the automotive industry has been using adhesives in their manufacturing process for years instead of welding. It's easier to repair and depending on the adhesive used is stronger than welding. I just had to repair the chassis on my snowmobile and here are the specs for the adhesive that is use in joining two pieces of the bulkhead together. I get it that you're pissed there's an issue with your brand new bike, but I do think that if they are using the correct adhesive for the application it can be a solid fix.

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2/6/2024 4:07pm Edited Date/Time 2/6/2024 4:08pm
Bow977 wrote:

This model is much improved over the previous generation, and I am sure they will continue to fine tune it.

For all of my motor issues, I still think it is a great bike - Handling, balance, and rider comfort are one of this bikes strong points.

Sure it has some issues like the airbox clusterfuck (some engineer needs to be terminated over that one) and some other minor items, but overall this bike has tons of potential once the power and intake issues are figured out...

It's always been the same for first gen dirt bikes no matter the brand -  the first buyers act as involuntary, un-paid test riders if they like it or not - there are no new design bikes that come to market perfect...

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2/6/2024 7:14pm
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This is only one spot, almost every weld is either undercut, cracked, or not burnt in. Already was back to the dealer after 2 days for...

IMG 2576 0.jpeg?VersionId=doMoPzR09QrnJLyk xsniThis is only one spot, almost every weld is either undercut, cracked, or not burnt in. Already was back to the dealer after 2 days for a clutch issue, back again it pops into gear and sounds like it’s going to self destruct, frame recall came out so I looked at it…. Way more than the one spot they mention in the recall. 24 450 anniversary brought it home 1/20 and I’m glad I didn’t take it to the track today because I wouldnt be here to share…..Mind blown, epoxy patch ???? I own a fabrication company and Tig weld for a living, I really can’t see how these are machine welds. 

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2/7/2024 9:10am Edited Date/Time 2/7/2024 9:12am
69KX wrote:
This is only one spot, almost every weld is either undercut, cracked, or not burnt in. Already was back to the dealer after 2 days for...

IMG 2576 0.jpeg?VersionId=doMoPzR09QrnJLyk xsniThis is only one spot, almost every weld is either undercut, cracked, or not burnt in. Already was back to the dealer after 2 days for a clutch issue, back again it pops into gear and sounds like it’s going to self destruct, frame recall came out so I looked at it…. Way more than the one spot they mention in the recall. 24 450 anniversary brought it home 1/20 and I’m glad I didn’t take it to the track today because I wouldnt be here to share…..Mind blown, epoxy patch ???? I own a fabrication company and Tig weld for a living, I really can’t see how these are machine welds. 

69KX wrote:

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I’ve been looking at your pictures here. If you don’t mind, what are we looking for in that picture?

2/7/2024 9:40am
69KX wrote:
This is only one spot, almost every weld is either undercut, cracked, or not burnt in. Already was back to the dealer after 2 days for...

IMG 2576 0.jpeg?VersionId=doMoPzR09QrnJLyk xsniThis is only one spot, almost every weld is either undercut, cracked, or not burnt in. Already was back to the dealer after 2 days for a clutch issue, back again it pops into gear and sounds like it’s going to self destruct, frame recall came out so I looked at it…. Way more than the one spot they mention in the recall. 24 450 anniversary brought it home 1/20 and I’m glad I didn’t take it to the track today because I wouldnt be here to share…..Mind blown, epoxy patch ???? I own a fabrication company and Tig weld for a living, I really can’t see how these are machine welds. 

69KX wrote:

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Nchez11 wrote:

I’ve been looking at your pictures here. If you don’t mind, what are we looking for in that picture?

If you weld for a living, none of the welds on modern robot-welded motocross bikes look too pretty, I’m guessing.  Fact is though, I see tons of posts here on Vital showing broken KTM and Yamaha frames, but I don’t recall seeing much in the way of broken Kawasaki frames.

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2/7/2024 1:40pm

I talked to a rep at Kawasaki yesterday.  They said that the area that they are worried about is where the subframe attaches.  The epoxy is just a safeguard.  I was also told that if a frame had a failure after the repair it would be replaced.  I am in the same boat as a few on here, where we are in snow season right now.  I got 2 hours on mine late fall and won't touch it again until April.

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2/7/2024 2:45pm

Sorry if I missed it but was about to drill my airbox cover and noticed that Keefer and others are drilling on the left side 3 and 2 inner holes. But the 3 holes along the left on the backside are just in an open area and not an opening into the airbox? So are those three just for looks to match the two center holes that actually allow flow into the box? 

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2/7/2024 3:42pm
69KX wrote:

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Nchez11 wrote:

I’ve been looking at your pictures here. If you don’t mind, what are we looking for in that picture?

If you weld for a living, none of the welds on modern robot-welded motocross bikes look too pretty, I’m guessing.  Fact is though, I see tons...

If you weld for a living, none of the welds on modern robot-welded motocross bikes look too pretty, I’m guessing.  Fact is though, I see tons of posts here on Vital showing broken KTM and Yamaha frames, but I don’t recall seeing much in the way of broken Kawasaki frames.

The pictures I tried to get the best angle it’s hard to show, I own a fabrication company that specializes is stainless and alum welding, I also was a weld inspector for the railroad previously. I agree machine welds are machine welds I personally own 8 newer Kawasaki bikes between my kids and I and non of them have any issue. 
the welds on the 24 frame (80 plus %) and also confirmed my the dealer are not good. Less than 1 hour on the bike it’s already torn down for pieces missing in the clutch which gave way to see even more welds that only layed on the metal and not in. 

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2/7/2024 4:02pm
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Sorry if I missed it but was about to drill my airbox cover and noticed that Keefer and others are drilling on the left side 3...

Sorry if I missed it but was about to drill my airbox cover and noticed that Keefer and others are drilling on the left side 3 and 2 inner holes. But the 3 holes along the left on the backside are just in an open area and not an opening into the airbox? So are those three just for looks to match the two center holes that actually allow flow into the box? 

Heard of a few owners chopping into the airbox, which would allow for both of the left side panel holes to breathe.

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2/7/2024 4:29pm
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Heard of a few owners chopping into the airbox, which would allow for both of the left side panel holes to breathe.

Heard of a few owners chopping into the airbox, which would allow for both of the left side panel holes to breathe.

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I’m talking about the left 3 you can see here, one you can even see the shock through the hole and those holes aren’t allowing any more flow in any way. Keefer didn’t mention it but I imagine just ripping off the sealing gasket on the back of the cover probably actually changes flow the most IMG 5959

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I've had two 19 KX450s and love them both obviously same bike. I have to be honest if I was going to buy a new one it would probably be a Yamaha just because not as many issues and the biggest thing is resale value. We're being said I might pick up a used 24 KX cuz it'll be a low priced 

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2/7/2024 8:39pm
crc245 wrote:
Heard of a few owners chopping into the airbox, which would allow for both of the left side panel holes to breathe.

Heard of a few owners chopping into the airbox, which would allow for both of the left side panel holes to breathe.

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Cygrace74 wrote:
I’m talking about the left 3 you can see here, one you can even see the shock through the hole and those holes aren’t allowing any...

I’m talking about the left 3 you can see here, one you can even see the shock through the hole and those holes aren’t allowing any more flow in any way. Keefer didn’t mention it but I imagine just ripping off the sealing gasket on the back of the cover probably actually changes flow the most IMG 5959

Would be interesting to see what the air temperature is in the box before and after the modifications. Guessing the heat from the engine/exhaust is raising the air temp significantly in the box, especially at lower speeds. If the battery wasn't in the way it would be easy to install a snorkel in place of it. Just by pulling the big rubber grommet out of the top of the airbox (under the battery) made a noticeable difference.

Hopefully someone will get the bike on a dyno soon and come up with something better than us hacking up our new bikes. 

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2/7/2024 10:09pm

Anyone running the X Trig clamps on their bikes yet? Any info on any handling feel from swapping them over? I know Keefer did some reviews on them on a Yamaha and KTM. He talked about how he lost a little comfort on lean just curious if that is the same on the KX. 

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2/8/2024 5:15am

The stock fork oil volume (just like the previous generation) is 321ml.  On the previous generation bike, I was much happier after raising the fork oil volume to 370ml.  If I want to try this on the '24, is there any reason I couldn't just use a syringe to inject 50ml of fork fluid through the air bleed holes on the fork to accomplish this?

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