starcorss results/ 350 ktm

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So what do you guys think of the ktm 350 ? Cairoli looked real good on it and didnt seem under powered at all , actually he was dominant. AC says it rides like a 250F but with more power and much better handling, the bike is making a big buzz right now in europe.

http://www.mxlarge.com/news/3302-mantova-starcross-cairoli-leads-ktm-to…
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2/7/2010 1:24pm
what i have heard is that Cairoli is on a 350 frame with a 450 motor.
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2/7/2010 1:25pm
It still has a lot to prove though. Maybe if it wins a AMA National Championship and a World Championship, the Japs might scramble to put something together for the following years.
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2/7/2010 1:29pm Edited Date/Time 2/7/2010 1:30pm
bigmike221 wrote:
what i have heard is that Cairoli is on a 350 frame with a 450 motor.
wrong, its a 350 motor with some mods.
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2/7/2010 1:39pm
bigmike221 wrote:
what i have heard is that Cairoli is on a 350 frame with a 450 motor.
That's the rumor.

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2/7/2010 1:47pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 8:38pm
It sounded like a 350. (like I have ever heard one) Sounded like he was usually reving harder than the other guys. More 250f-ish.
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2/7/2010 1:56pm
Thats the rumor ive heard.? Not saying its true but it makes sense. I do live in Missouri tho. I was not close enough to hear what it sounded like..lol
2/7/2010 1:57pm
bigmike221 wrote:
what i have heard is that Cairoli is on a 350 frame with a 450 motor.
FlaNard wrote:
That's the rumor.
just like PC 250's are 350's.... Whistling
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2/7/2010 1:59pm
bigmike221 wrote:
what i have heard is that Cairoli is on a 350 frame with a 450 motor.
mohammed wrote:
wrong, its a 350 motor with some mods.
So yo know personally? You dug into the motor, and you can confirm this?
2/7/2010 2:16pm
cairoli was riding the 350
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2/7/2010 2:57pm
Wasn't Alessi supposed to be at that race?
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2/7/2010 4:37pm
bigmike221 wrote:
Thats the rumor ive heard.? Not saying its true but it makes sense. I do live in Missouri tho. I was not close enough to hear...
Thats the rumor ive heard.? Not saying its true but it makes sense. I do live in Missouri tho. I was not close enough to hear what it sounded like..lol
I watched the vids of the race on youtube.
2/8/2010 12:00pm
I would think a 350 would get smoked on starts, even with Alessi on it.
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2/8/2010 12:11pm Edited Date/Time 2/8/2010 12:13pm
I wonder if it will catch on or not. KTM did something similar in 2003/2004 (when most everyone was still on 2-strokes) with the 200SX. It wasnt really a huge hit, though. I actually rode one...fun bike. If the 350SXF isnt a success with motocross, maybe they could use it for a woods bike. Their 200cc 2-strokes are successful there.
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2/8/2010 1:07pm
burnside wrote:
Wasn't Alessi supposed to be at that race?
Who?
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2/8/2010 1:09pm
Alessi rode on the Saturday but didn't do very well, and didn't race Sunday - said his shoulder was sore.
2/8/2010 1:10pm
He wasnt riding a 450 last year on the Yamaha either. I do beleive it was a 390, and he did prety well I would say.
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I would think a 350 would get smoked on starts, even with Alessi on it.
You must not remember Villopoto DesNations '08, he was on a 250f, holeshot! It's not the amount of power, but how well you use it! (My wife says something similiar about the tool I use?)
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2/8/2010 2:21pm
loftyair wrote:
You must not remember Villopoto DesNations '08, he was on a 250f, holeshot! It's not the amount of power, but how well you use it! (My...
You must not remember Villopoto DesNations '08, he was on a 250f, holeshot! It's not the amount of power, but how well you use it! (My wife says something similiar about the tool I use?)
Not entirely, if you remember that start was a hard 180 at the end of a short straight. RV started at the far inside gate both his motos, using a little brains to brake early and turn tight around the inside. He certainly wasn't first to the turn but positioning is everything.
2/8/2010 3:05pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 8:39pm
mccread wrote:
Alessi rode on the Saturday but didn't do very well, and didn't race Sunday - said his shoulder was sore.
You mean his ass was sore from the kicking it was getting Laughing

Only Joking i'm sure something must have been wrong he would have been up there for sure
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2/8/2010 3:28pm
bigmike221 wrote:
what i have heard is that Cairoli is on a 350 frame with a 450 motor.
mohammed wrote:
wrong, its a 350 motor with some mods.
Jarid332 wrote:
So yo know personally? You dug into the motor, and you can confirm this?
NEWS Sunday 07th February 2010 By Geoff Meyer

Under beautiful sunshine and around a slightly muddy and very rough circuit Italian legend Antonio Cairoli worked his magic in front of his legion of fans. Racing his KTM 350sxf machine for the first time in Mantova the three times World Motocross Champion looked even stronger than in his 2009 winning season.
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2/8/2010 7:12pm
mohammed wrote:
wrong, its a 350 motor with some mods.
Jarid332 wrote:
So yo know personally? You dug into the motor, and you can confirm this?
abn166 wrote:
NEWS Sunday 07th February 2010 By Geoff Meyer Under beautiful sunshine and around a slightly muddy and very rough circuit Italian legend Antonio Cairoli worked his...
NEWS Sunday 07th February 2010 By Geoff Meyer

Under beautiful sunshine and around a slightly muddy and very rough circuit Italian legend Antonio Cairoli worked his magic in front of his legion of fans. Racing his KTM 350sxf machine for the first time in Mantova the three times World Motocross Champion looked even stronger than in his 2009 winning season.
Thank you abn166, geez some people just dont believe anything. So you think KTM is promoting a new 350cc bike but actually have a 450 motor, give me a break.
2/8/2010 9:44pm
Justin314 wrote:
I wonder if it will catch on or not. KTM did something similar in 2003/2004 (when most everyone was still on 2-strokes) with the 200SX. It...
I wonder if it will catch on or not. KTM did something similar in 2003/2004 (when most everyone was still on 2-strokes) with the 200SX. It wasnt really a huge hit, though. I actually rode one...fun bike. If the 350SXF isnt a success with motocross, maybe they could use it for a woods bike. Their 200cc 2-strokes are successful there.
Ktm will make damn near anything, and have it ready by next Tuesday.

50, 65, 85, 105, 125, 150, 200, 250, 300, 380 have all been available as 2-strokes in the last 10 years, and some CC sizes have more than one engine design.
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2/8/2010 11:45pm Edited Date/Time 2/8/2010 11:50pm
bigmike221 wrote:
what i have heard is that Cairoli is on a 350 frame with a 450 motor.
And I heard that last year his YZ450F was running a 400cc motor, rumors.

I read that Alessi failed to finish a race. (http://www.fullnoise.com.au/)
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I think i've only seen it on a video, and have no real opinion on it! haha
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2/9/2010 3:44am
Justin314 wrote:
I wonder if it will catch on or not. KTM did something similar in 2003/2004 (when most everyone was still on 2-strokes) with the 200SX. It...
I wonder if it will catch on or not. KTM did something similar in 2003/2004 (when most everyone was still on 2-strokes) with the 200SX. It wasnt really a huge hit, though. I actually rode one...fun bike. If the 350SXF isnt a success with motocross, maybe they could use it for a woods bike. Their 200cc 2-strokes are successful there.
Ktm will make damn near anything, and have it ready by next Tuesday. 50, 65, 85, 105, 125, 150, 200, 250, 300, 380 have all been...
Ktm will make damn near anything, and have it ready by next Tuesday.

50, 65, 85, 105, 125, 150, 200, 250, 300, 380 have all been available as 2-strokes in the last 10 years, and some CC sizes have more than one engine design.
yea they will make anything overnight, the problem is, they use their customers to do the testing, then make changes over a 2-3 year period as the problems surface.
2/9/2010 3:46am
A friend was there in the paddock so for the last time: CAIROLI WAS ON A 350!
2/10/2010 4:32pm
bigmike221 wrote:
what i have heard is that Cairoli is on a 350 frame with a 450 motor.
Trauma wrote:
And I heard that last year his YZ450F was running a 400cc motor, rumors.

I read that Alessi failed to finish a race. (http://www.fullnoise.com.au/)
It was actually a 380
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2/10/2010 6:03pm
Damnit how can I get paid the Jack these guys get and dont have to perform
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2/10/2010 6:14pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 8:42pm
mohammed wrote:
So what do you guys think of the ktm 350 ? Cairoli looked real good on it and didnt seem under powered at all , actually...
So what do you guys think of the ktm 350 ? Cairoli looked real good on it and didnt seem under powered at all , actually he was dominant. AC says it rides like a 250F but with more power and much better handling, the bike is making a big buzz right now in europe.

http://www.mxlarge.com/news/3302-mantova-starcross-cairoli-leads-ktm-to…
I will let you know after seeing how he does at Lommel & lierop on the 350. Smile

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