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plowboy
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10/2/2023 2:53pm
Flatliner wrote:

Seems like some democrats are up in arms with the pause in Ukraine funding.....  How many billions need to be pumped in before its enough?

SCR wrote:
Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Lybia. Trillions spent in the name of peace, democracy and stability and more trillions to spend in the future for veterans benefits, and...

Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Lybia. Trillions spent in the name of peace, democracy and stability and more trillions to spend in the future for veterans benefits, and interest to be paid on the printed and borrowed money.  And still we dont know how much it costs to bring peace, democracy and stability but we sure know what it costs to turn all of these countries upside down and into chaos and instability.  And we know how many people need to die to accomplish this. 

Ukraine, Syria, Yemen, Somalia, ?  How about Iran, China ?

How much is enough ? I dont know but the diplomacy play book got thrown out the window long ago and it sure sounds like the US is going to keep pumping money and weapons into Eastern Europe until we find out. Or run out of people to kill.

War is an industry that much of the US economy is relies on. And the people that get filthy rich in this industry will do everything they can to keep feeding the monster.

I dont really have words strong enough but its a hell of a thing Ive been watching go on for the last 20 years. 

We didn't start the fire but we know how to fan it.

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10/8/2023 10:34am

They say it`s ATGM. Looks like mine to me.

 

 

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OleTex
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10/24/2023 8:55am
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They say it`s ATGM. Looks like mine to me.

 

 

Yeah it’s hard to tell. Either way, one less Orc tank. 

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11/13/2023 4:29pm
Paperclip wrote:
😂😂😂😂😂😂 https://x.com/washingtonpost/status/1723401521805541681?s=20 Jesus, even the WaPo is saying this.     

IMG 3796 2😂😂😂😂😂😂

https://x.com/washingtonpost/status/1723401521805541681?s=20

Jesus, even the WaPo is saying this. 
 

 

So The Onion didn't have a piece? Woohoo

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11/21/2023 8:01pm

10 years since the start of Ukraines fight for true independence.  FUck Russia

 

 

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11/22/2023 5:48am
early wrote:
10 years since the start of Ukraines fight for true independence.  FUck Russia    

10 years since the start of Ukraines fight for true independence.  FUck Russia

 

 

You mean 10 years since the US coup started??😂🤦‍♂️

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11/22/2023 6:02am
early wrote:
10 years since the start of Ukraines fight for true independence.  FUck Russia    

10 years since the start of Ukraines fight for true independence.  FUck Russia

 

 

Paperclip wrote:

You mean 10 years since the US coup started??😂🤦‍♂️

Don’t let facts spoil one of the greatest money laundering schemes of all time!

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sende
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12/22/2023 2:15pm
Flatliner wrote:

Seems like some democrats are up in arms with the pause in Ukraine funding.....  How many billions need to be pumped in before its enough?

It's enough when Russia is completely defeated, not a second before that happens. Every able country should give all the aid needed. If Russia wins this one, they will want more and the consequences will eventually reach USA too. It is as simple as that and no other way around it.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt24082438/

Give that a watch too.

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12/23/2023 1:44am
Flatliner wrote:

Seems like some democrats are up in arms with the pause in Ukraine funding.....  How many billions need to be pumped in before its enough?

sende wrote:
It's enough when Russia is completely defeated, not a second before that happens. Every able country should give all the aid needed. If Russia wins this...

It's enough when Russia is completely defeated, not a second before that happens. Every able country should give all the aid needed. If Russia wins this one, they will want more and the consequences will eventually reach USA too. It is as simple as that and no other way around it.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt24082438/

Give that a watch too.

Ukraine is done dude. Russia will not be defeated. You’re in la la dream land. 
it’s really not simple like you say. 
Are you a NAFO member? 

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12/23/2023 3:45am

Neither side will accomplish what they want. Ukraine wont be demilitarised and turned into a puppet and Russia won't be removed from the territory its taken. 

Neither side has the power or technology to break the dead lock. We are looking at a 1916 situation where both sides make minimal gains for horrendous casualties with the defenders having the advantage. 

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12/23/2023 3:58am
Neither side will accomplish what they want. Ukraine wont be demilitarised and turned into a puppet and Russia won't be removed from the territory its taken. ...

Neither side will accomplish what they want. Ukraine wont be demilitarised and turned into a puppet and Russia won't be removed from the territory its taken. 

Neither side has the power or technology to break the dead lock. We are looking at a 1916 situation where both sides make minimal gains for horrendous casualties with the defenders having the advantage. 

Russia has patience and a large population. That’s all it needs. 

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ohiomotoxer
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12/23/2023 1:19pm

FUCK UKRAINE alteady

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M8
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12/23/2023 1:56pm

FUCK UKRAINE alteady

Imagine supporting ruSSia in its quest to take over Europe and re establish the Soviet Union. To much Russian propaganda for you.

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Neither side will accomplish what they want. Ukraine wont be demilitarised and turned into a puppet and Russia won't be removed from the territory its taken. ...

Neither side will accomplish what they want. Ukraine wont be demilitarised and turned into a puppet and Russia won't be removed from the territory its taken. 

Neither side has the power or technology to break the dead lock. We are looking at a 1916 situation where both sides make minimal gains for horrendous casualties with the defenders having the advantage. 

Paperclip wrote:

Russia has patience and a large population. That’s all it needs. 

RuSSia is done. That country won’t be around in 10 years. It will be broken up into smaller states, half of whom will come running to Nato.

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ohiomotoxer
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12/23/2023 9:21pm

FUCK UKRAINE alteady

M8 wrote:

Imagine supporting ruSSia in its quest to take over Europe and re establish the Soviet Union. To much Russian propaganda for you.

FUCK russia too

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12/24/2023 2:52am

FUCK UKRAINE alteady

M8 wrote:

Imagine supporting ruSSia in its quest to take over Europe and re establish the Soviet Union. To much Russian propaganda for you.

Imagine really thinking that’s Russias plan😂

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12/24/2023 3:35am

FUCK UKRAINE alteady

M8 wrote:

Imagine supporting ruSSia in its quest to take over Europe and re establish the Soviet Union. To much Russian propaganda for you.

Paperclip wrote:

Imagine really thinking that’s Russias plan😂

They have literally stated it…

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12/24/2023 5:27am
M8 wrote:

Imagine supporting ruSSia in its quest to take over Europe and re establish the Soviet Union. To much Russian propaganda for you.

Paperclip wrote:

Imagine really thinking that’s Russias plan😂

M8 wrote:

They have literally stated it…

I think you’ve taken some artistic license with what they have stated. 

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colintrax
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12/24/2023 8:41am
Paperclip wrote:

I think you’ve taken some artistic license with what they have stated. 

No, you're just a dumbass

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12/24/2023 8:43am
Paperclip wrote:

I think you’ve taken some artistic license with what they have stated. 

colintrax wrote:

No, you're just a dumbass

That’s cuts deep….

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12/24/2023 8:52am

Before we all enjoy a Christmas holiday with our families. Let's remember what Russia has started with Ukraine, and remember this when we go to the polls. If Putin didn't start this, there wouldn't have to be so many kids spending Christmas in an orphanage. Kids living under a foreign military occupation.

 

https://www.reuters.com/pictures/pictures-600-days-war-ukraine-2023-10-…

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/18agzcf/russian…

Oh yes, a real satanist.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-satanic-cannibal-cult-murderer-14461…

https://youtu.be/mS9iQJOgk8I?si=wT-D-Wj5RATDgNeF

https://youtu.be/fcCHtNZOidY?si=enTzcvwdJEJJimx3

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TeamGreen
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12/24/2023 9:52am
colintrax wrote:
Before we all enjoy a Christmas holiday with our families. Let's remember what Russia has started with Ukraine, and remember this when we go to the...

Before we all enjoy a Christmas holiday with our families. Let's remember what Russia has started with Ukraine, and remember this when we go to the polls. If Putin didn't start this, there wouldn't have to be so many kids spending Christmas in an orphanage. Kids living under a foreign military occupation.

 

https://www.reuters.com/pictures/pictures-600-days-war-ukraine-2023-10-…

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/18agzcf/russian…

Oh yes, a real satanist.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-satanic-cannibal-cult-murderer-14461…

https://youtu.be/mS9iQJOgk8I?si=wT-D-Wj5RATDgNeF

https://youtu.be/fcCHtNZOidY?si=enTzcvwdJEJJimx3

I want peace for the people of the Ukraine…and I want Russia OUT of Eastern Ukraine.

Hell, I want Russia out of Crimea. 

I know, I know…not gonna happen; but, I can still hope for it. 

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12/24/2023 10:21am
colintrax wrote:
Before we all enjoy a Christmas holiday with our families. Let's remember what Russia has started with Ukraine, and remember this when we go to the...

Before we all enjoy a Christmas holiday with our families. Let's remember what Russia has started with Ukraine, and remember this when we go to the polls. If Putin didn't start this, there wouldn't have to be so many kids spending Christmas in an orphanage. Kids living under a foreign military occupation.

 

https://www.reuters.com/pictures/pictures-600-days-war-ukraine-2023-10-…

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/18agzcf/russian…

Oh yes, a real satanist.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-satanic-cannibal-cult-murderer-14461…

https://youtu.be/mS9iQJOgk8I?si=wT-D-Wj5RATDgNeF

https://youtu.be/fcCHtNZOidY?si=enTzcvwdJEJJimx3

TeamGreen wrote:
I want peace for the people of the Ukraine…and I want Russia OUT of Eastern Ukraine. Hell, I want Russia out of Crimea.  I know, I...

I want peace for the people of the Ukraine…and I want Russia OUT of Eastern Ukraine.

Hell, I want Russia out of Crimea. 

I know, I know…not gonna happen; but, I can still hope for it. 

Here’s to hoping bro! 

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12/24/2023 10:42am Edited Date/Time 12/24/2023 10:44am
Flatliner wrote:

Seems like some democrats are up in arms with the pause in Ukraine funding.....  How many billions need to be pumped in before its enough?

sende wrote:
It's enough when Russia is completely defeated, not a second before that happens. Every able country should give all the aid needed. If Russia wins this...

It's enough when Russia is completely defeated, not a second before that happens. Every able country should give all the aid needed. If Russia wins this one, they will want more and the consequences will eventually reach USA too. It is as simple as that and no other way around it.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt24082438/

Give that a watch too.

I hear you... my country is broke, and to my knowledge donated billions already.

 

Have to be honest, I'm a little tired of donating half my cheque every two weeks to government whims.

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12/24/2023 11:40am
Flatliner wrote:

Seems like some democrats are up in arms with the pause in Ukraine funding.....  How many billions need to be pumped in before its enough?

sende wrote:
It's enough when Russia is completely defeated, not a second before that happens. Every able country should give all the aid needed. If Russia wins this...

It's enough when Russia is completely defeated, not a second before that happens. Every able country should give all the aid needed. If Russia wins this one, they will want more and the consequences will eventually reach USA too. It is as simple as that and no other way around it.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt24082438/

Give that a watch too.

Flatliner wrote:
I hear you... my country is broke, and to my knowledge donated billions already.   Have to be honest, I'm a little tired of donating half...

I hear you... my country is broke, and to my knowledge donated billions already.

 

Have to be honest, I'm a little tired of donating half my cheque every two weeks to government whims.

Well your deputy PM has some pretty deep ties to Ukrainian nationalists. 

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colintrax
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12/24/2023 11:51am
TeamGreen wrote:
I want peace for the people of the Ukraine…and I want Russia OUT of Eastern Ukraine. Hell, I want Russia out of Crimea.  I know, I...

I want peace for the people of the Ukraine…and I want Russia OUT of Eastern Ukraine.

Hell, I want Russia out of Crimea. 

I know, I know…not gonna happen; but, I can still hope for it. 

Not happening this year, but we can hope it'll happen soon

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12/24/2023 12:01pm
colintrax wrote:

Not happening this year, but we can hope it'll happen soon

Ukraine spent the entire summer fighting very hard and broke through the first Russian defensive line in a single place, I just don't see them having the strength to remove the Russian army.

Both sides have been claiming the other is about to collapse and is running out of men since this started and it seems neither is about to collapse or run out of men. I suspect that this war is going to last a very long time yet. 

12/24/2023 12:37pm
colintrax wrote:

Not happening this year, but we can hope it'll happen soon

Ukraine spent the entire summer fighting very hard and broke through the first Russian defensive line in a single place, I just don't see them having...

Ukraine spent the entire summer fighting very hard and broke through the first Russian defensive line in a single place, I just don't see them having the strength to remove the Russian army.

Both sides have been claiming the other is about to collapse and is running out of men since this started and it seems neither is about to collapse or run out of men. I suspect that this war is going to last a very long time yet. 

When the bulk of fresh replacements are 40- 50 year olds, it cant be very confidence inspiring for Ukraine. The Russians have been planning their next 2-3 years of mobilization’s. Still burning up ethnic conscripts. They have close to 10 times the man power to burn. 

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12/24/2023 12:40pm
TeamGreen wrote:
I want peace for the people of the Ukraine…and I want Russia OUT of Eastern Ukraine. Hell, I want Russia out of Crimea.  I know, I...

I want peace for the people of the Ukraine…and I want Russia OUT of Eastern Ukraine.

Hell, I want Russia out of Crimea. 

I know, I know…not gonna happen; but, I can still hope for it. 

colintrax wrote:

Not happening this year, but we can hope it'll happen soon

It’s nice you are such an optimistic dreamer. 
Hope and prayers. 

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