Hmm...a rumor I heard...

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1/20/2010 8:52am
I said a possible rib injury in the Butlerbrothersmx.com blog Sat. night. The way he looked walking and holding his side looked like a person with a rib injury, not a shoulder.

I wouldn't be surprised to see him out at A2, especially if it is a mud race. Why go out and risk further injury in the mud? Let the ribs heal and come back when the track is dry.
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1/20/2010 8:58am
docweedon wrote:
I said a possible rib injury in the Butlerbrothersmx.com blog Sat. night. The way he looked walking and holding his side looked like a person with...
I said a possible rib injury in the Butlerbrothersmx.com blog Sat. night. The way he looked walking and holding his side looked like a person with a rib injury, not a shoulder.

I wouldn't be surprised to see him out at A2, especially if it is a mud race. Why go out and risk further injury in the mud? Let the ribs heal and come back when the track is dry.
If he doesn't race this weekend he's out of the points chase for sure. If he can ride I think he will and at least salvage points. Besides, as we know ANYTHING can happen in a mud race.


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Yes James can sit out this week end and if he wins all the remaining rounds he would win the championship with 406 points Dungey with...
Yes James can sit out this week end and if he wins all the remaining rounds he would win the championship with 406 points Dungey with all seconds would have 377.
Not sure how you work that out.

James is currently 16 pts behind Dungey. If he doesn't race this weekend and Dungey wins that puts the gap at 41 pts.

Assuming Dungey finishes second and James wins for the remaining 14 rounds, James makes up 3 pts per round for a total of 42 pts gained on Dungey, so James wins by 1 point.

Pretty tall order - 14 wins a row would be a new record for most wins in a season (actually it would be 15 including A1) and most wins a row.

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docweedon wrote:
I said a possible rib injury in the Butlerbrothersmx.com blog Sat. night. The way he looked walking and holding his side looked like a person with...
I said a possible rib injury in the Butlerbrothersmx.com blog Sat. night. The way he looked walking and holding his side looked like a person with a rib injury, not a shoulder.

I wouldn't be surprised to see him out at A2, especially if it is a mud race. Why go out and risk further injury in the mud? Let the ribs heal and come back when the track is dry.
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If he doesn't race this weekend he's out of the points chase for sure. If he can ride I think he will and at least salvage...
If he doesn't race this weekend he's out of the points chase for sure. If he can ride I think he will and at least salvage points. Besides, as we know ANYTHING can happen in a mud race.


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You have to be having fun to do well in the mud and it's hard to have fun when you are hurt.
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No confirmation yet, but the rumor is that JS7 is out for this weekend.
Weather related.
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If he does pull out, it's gonna a be lonnnggg year for him until A1 next when he is back in the hunt for a title.
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docweedon wrote:
I said a possible rib injury in the Butlerbrothersmx.com blog Sat. night. The way he looked walking and holding his side looked like a person with...
I said a possible rib injury in the Butlerbrothersmx.com blog Sat. night. The way he looked walking and holding his side looked like a person with a rib injury, not a shoulder.

I wouldn't be surprised to see him out at A2, especially if it is a mud race. Why go out and risk further injury in the mud? Let the ribs heal and come back when the track is dry.
P wrote:
If he doesn't race this weekend he's out of the points chase for sure. If he can ride I think he will and at least salvage...
If he doesn't race this weekend he's out of the points chase for sure. If he can ride I think he will and at least salvage points. Besides, as we know ANYTHING can happen in a mud race.


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P,

I think there may be compounding issues...one of them being that it IS a "Mud-Race"...Potentially.

Do you want JS7 to take a chance at "compounding" his injury(s) by riding...in the mud...where/when we ALL know that there's a whole lot more "Falling-Down"?

Or, take the week off and come back when he's healed up and healthy.

He's a young-man...he's got nuthin' but time.

I think he's got a viable shot at "Still" bein' a Championship contender even if he sits A2 out.

He's that good.
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Some of you don't pay much attention do you?

Read Gibby's post again.
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He will be there this weekend Wink
I see you've gone to your "happy place".

I made the right bet, just the wrong week(s). Oh well...
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R-acer wrote:
He will be there this weekend Wink
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I see you've gone to your "happy place".

I made the right bet, just the wrong week(s). Oh well...
If Stewart shows up this weekend, I'll give you another shot at winning a betEvil
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Next year he will sign an autograph only contract..
and charge 10 bucks a pop
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my dads broken alot of ribs in his life, and he said bubba broke a few ribs by the way he was holding his side.


Think about the title chase without james or reed?

Dungey takes james' place? and wins everything, and the title.
Villopoto takes reeds pace? and steals a few wins.
What about KEVIN WINDHAM? He's like 15 points out right?
Andrew Short?
Ivan Tedesco?

New champion?
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1/20/2010 9:37am Edited Date/Time 1/20/2010 9:45am
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If Stewart shows up this weekend, I'll give you another shot at winning a betEvil
Whats that saying? "If you're gonna be stupid, you better be tough"? Somethin like that... Grin
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I always remembered working a lot harder riding in the mud , than i ever did when it was dry out. There is not a second that goes by when you are NOT trying to muscle the bike around ( with a rib injury , damn near impossible ) With that being said , "IF" James' ribs are bruised up pretty good , it may be a wise decision to sit this round out.

If he sits out this next race , and gets a good 1-1/2 weeks of rest , it may be the best thing he could do. Sometimes , riding with an injury like that can just prolong it into making it hurt for weeks upon weeks.

That will be a tough call on James' part. Hmmm??....i dunno , but IF he did go out and just make sure he got on the gate and got into the top 5-8 ( which he could do in his sleep) and salvage points , and then come back a little stronger each week , that might even be a better game plan.

I'm sure James and Larry both have gone over it a million times , and they will do what ever is best for James and the team. The most important thing is , is making sure your rider doesn't get back out there to soon , cause more damage , and be sitting out the rest of the season.

I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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1/20/2010 9:54am
docweedon wrote:
I said a possible rib injury in the Butlerbrothersmx.com blog Sat. night. The way he looked walking and holding his side looked like a person with...
I said a possible rib injury in the Butlerbrothersmx.com blog Sat. night. The way he looked walking and holding his side looked like a person with a rib injury, not a shoulder.

I wouldn't be surprised to see him out at A2, especially if it is a mud race. Why go out and risk further injury in the mud? Let the ribs heal and come back when the track is dry.
P wrote:
If he doesn't race this weekend he's out of the points chase for sure. If he can ride I think he will and at least salvage...
If he doesn't race this weekend he's out of the points chase for sure. If he can ride I think he will and at least salvage points. Besides, as we know ANYTHING can happen in a mud race.


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CamP wrote:
You have to be having fun to do well in the mud and it's hard to have fun when you are hurt.
I don't know about that, but I do know that a guy that would normally be up front can end up at the back of the pack or out of the race at a mud race very easliy.


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jeffro503 wrote:
I always remembered working a lot harder riding in the mud , than i ever did when it was dry out. There is not a second...
I always remembered working a lot harder riding in the mud , than i ever did when it was dry out. There is not a second that goes by when you are NOT trying to muscle the bike around ( with a rib injury , damn near impossible ) With that being said , "IF" James' ribs are bruised up pretty good , it may be a wise decision to sit this round out.

If he sits out this next race , and gets a good 1-1/2 weeks of rest , it may be the best thing he could do. Sometimes , riding with an injury like that can just prolong it into making it hurt for weeks upon weeks.

That will be a tough call on James' part. Hmmm??....i dunno , but IF he did go out and just make sure he got on the gate and got into the top 5-8 ( which he could do in his sleep) and salvage points , and then come back a little stronger each week , that might even be a better game plan.

I'm sure James and Larry both have gone over it a million times , and they will do what ever is best for James and the team. The most important thing is , is making sure your rider doesn't get back out there to soon , cause more damage , and be sitting out the rest of the season.

I guess we'll have to wait and see.

jeffro503 wrote: I always remembered working a lot harder riding in the mud , than i ever did when it was dry out.



Yep!!!!!!!
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docweedon wrote:
I said a possible rib injury in the Butlerbrothersmx.com blog Sat. night. The way he looked walking and holding his side looked like a person with...
I said a possible rib injury in the Butlerbrothersmx.com blog Sat. night. The way he looked walking and holding his side looked like a person with a rib injury, not a shoulder.

I wouldn't be surprised to see him out at A2, especially if it is a mud race. Why go out and risk further injury in the mud? Let the ribs heal and come back when the track is dry.
P wrote:
If he doesn't race this weekend he's out of the points chase for sure. If he can ride I think he will and at least salvage...
If he doesn't race this weekend he's out of the points chase for sure. If he can ride I think he will and at least salvage points. Besides, as we know ANYTHING can happen in a mud race.


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TeamGreen wrote:
P, I think there may be compounding issues...one of them being that it IS a "Mud-Race"...Potentially. Do you want JS7 to take a chance at "compounding"...
P,

I think there may be compounding issues...one of them being that it IS a "Mud-Race"...Potentially.

Do you want JS7 to take a chance at "compounding" his injury(s) by riding...in the mud...where/when we ALL know that there's a whole lot more "Falling-Down"?

Or, take the week off and come back when he's healed up and healthy.

He's a young-man...he's got nuthin' but time.

I think he's got a viable shot at "Still" bein' a Championship contender even if he sits A2 out.

He's that good.
Falling in mud is much better than falling in regular conditions.

I know how good James is, but he would have to be damn near perfect the rest of the way. Even if he only takes it easy and gets 10 points that's better than none. That's just MHO. In the mud, James can ride at 70% and still probably end up in the top 5.

If you want to win titles you will have to ride hurt at some point.


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If it were Larry Brooks who was hurt, he would race, even if he wasn't in the championship hunt.

What I'm saying is, if Bubba doesn't race, that decision didn't come from LB.

Also, why does everybody think RD is going to be so dominant at such an early stage? He has had zero pressure on him until now. He's a rookie. His SX career has had flaws in the past. Give the kid some room for mistakes!
1/20/2010 10:03am
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He will be there this weekend Wink
yeah because if hes not you wont be able to worship properly... OMG that would SUCKS 4 U!

but there would hopefully be an interesting side effect.... you might stfu and leave VitalMX.... No JS for you to distort reality, no CR to blaim any and everything on... man, would be no point for you to even log in!
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this thread is AWESOME!

"My dad had broken ribs and he could tell from TV that James definitely has broken ribs."
Even if your dad was a doctor who specialized in broken ribs, there's no way to know without a full check up. Impossible to tell from watching TV. There are a TON of other injuries it could be aside from broken ribs. Anything from just bruising to something possibly much more serious. only time will tell.

"Racerx is also saying James *might* be out with possible rib/shoulder injuries, so it must be true."
Everybody saw what happened, James got f'n landed on and barely was able to get through the night, of course he *might* have some injuries! This is not a news flash.

"14 wins in a row is a tall order"
Well guess what, so is a rookie getting 14 2nds in a row and not having ONE bad race. The season is young and a lot can happen. JS came back from worse last year and Reed was in the mix. Even if RD is on the gas, he doesn't have the experience or the track record of CR. CR is in many ways the Brett Favre of SX, he has started A LOT of races and consistently finished very well. JS was able to come back and defeat CR, he can do the same to RD. Not saying he will, just saying he very well could.

Let's just see how this weekend goes, obviously after that our 'fortune telling' powers will be muuuch stronger. ;v)
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1/20/2010 10:05am
MikeHoncho wrote:
this thread is AWESOME! "My dad had broken ribs and he could tell from TV that James definitely has broken ribs." Even if your dad was...
this thread is AWESOME!

"My dad had broken ribs and he could tell from TV that James definitely has broken ribs."
Even if your dad was a doctor who specialized in broken ribs, there's no way to know without a full check up. Impossible to tell from watching TV. There are a TON of other injuries it could be aside from broken ribs. Anything from just bruising to something possibly much more serious. only time will tell.

"Racerx is also saying James *might* be out with possible rib/shoulder injuries, so it must be true."
Everybody saw what happened, James got f'n landed on and barely was able to get through the night, of course he *might* have some injuries! This is not a news flash.

"14 wins in a row is a tall order"
Well guess what, so is a rookie getting 14 2nds in a row and not having ONE bad race. The season is young and a lot can happen. JS came back from worse last year and Reed was in the mix. Even if RD is on the gas, he doesn't have the experience or the track record of CR. CR is in many ways the Brett Favre of SX, he has started A LOT of races and consistently finished very well. JS was able to come back and defeat CR, he can do the same to RD. Not saying he will, just saying he very well could.

Let's just see how this weekend goes, obviously after that our 'fortune telling' powers will be muuuch stronger. ;v)
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On the MXA mid week report Brooks admits that he pushed the bike over
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ridge wrote:
If it were Larry Brooks who was hurt, he would race, even if he wasn't in the championship hunt. What I'm saying is, if Bubba doesn't...
If it were Larry Brooks who was hurt, he would race, even if he wasn't in the championship hunt.

What I'm saying is, if Bubba doesn't race, that decision didn't come from LB.

Also, why does everybody think RD is going to be so dominant at such an early stage? He has had zero pressure on him until now. He's a rookie. His SX career has had flaws in the past. Give the kid some room for mistakes!
True Larry would gut it out.

RD has been extremely consistent and focused so far in his career, he is a rookie and a mistake is possible and not unlikely. But I give him the benefit of the doubt because of his track record to this point. He has proven to have the speed and held up under pressure in the past, either way it will be fun to watch! A little drama at the top is much more enjoyable to watch than the RC, MC, CR, JS runaways in the past.

In fact its quite nice that someone is in the championship lead that very few people would have thought of a few weeks ago. I wouldn't have thought after 2 races the 2 prior champs would be in the situation the are now in.
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Next year he will sign an autograph only contract..
Gotta admit thats pretty good.
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P, I think there may be compounding issues...one of them being that it IS a "Mud-Race"...Potentially. Do you want JS7 to take a chance at "compounding"...
P,

I think there may be compounding issues...one of them being that it IS a "Mud-Race"...Potentially.

Do you want JS7 to take a chance at "compounding" his injury(s) by riding...in the mud...where/when we ALL know that there's a whole lot more "Falling-Down"?

Or, take the week off and come back when he's healed up and healthy.

He's a young-man...he's got nuthin' but time.

I think he's got a viable shot at "Still" bein' a Championship contender even if he sits A2 out.

He's that good.
What are his injuries? He was cleared right away by the doc at Phoenix to ride the LCQ. Did they miss something?
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What are his injuries? He was cleared right away by the doc at Phoenix to ride the LCQ. Did they miss something?
Bruised ribs, nothing broken.. MXA midweek report is up now.
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P, I think there may be compounding issues...one of them being that it IS a "Mud-Race"...Potentially. Do you want JS7 to take a chance at "compounding"...
P,

I think there may be compounding issues...one of them being that it IS a "Mud-Race"...Potentially.

Do you want JS7 to take a chance at "compounding" his injury(s) by riding...in the mud...where/when we ALL know that there's a whole lot more "Falling-Down"?

Or, take the week off and come back when he's healed up and healthy.

He's a young-man...he's got nuthin' but time.

I think he's got a viable shot at "Still" bein' a Championship contender even if he sits A2 out.

He's that good.
toroP wrote:
What are his injuries? He was cleared right away by the doc at Phoenix to ride the LCQ. Did they miss something?
I'm no doctor, but when I see someone crash land off a triple with a KX450F landing on top of them, I'm pretty certain the guy is going to be in a pain for a while.

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No confirmation yet, but the rumor is that JS7 is out for this weekend.
how many years has it been since we have had a SX season where there were more than 2 guys who had a realistic shot at the title? MC's rookie season? This year was shaping up to be epic and now the top two vets are out . . . bummer for everybody
1/20/2010 12:12pm Edited Date/Time 1/20/2010 12:29pm
MikeHoncho wrote:
this thread is AWESOME! "My dad had broken ribs and he could tell from TV that James definitely has broken ribs." Even if your dad was...
this thread is AWESOME!

"My dad had broken ribs and he could tell from TV that James definitely has broken ribs."
Even if your dad was a doctor who specialized in broken ribs, there's no way to know without a full check up. Impossible to tell from watching TV. There are a TON of other injuries it could be aside from broken ribs. Anything from just bruising to something possibly much more serious. only time will tell.

"Racerx is also saying James *might* be out with possible rib/shoulder injuries, so it must be true."
Everybody saw what happened, James got f'n landed on and barely was able to get through the night, of course he *might* have some injuries! This is not a news flash.

"14 wins in a row is a tall order"
Well guess what, so is a rookie getting 14 2nds in a row and not having ONE bad race. The season is young and a lot can happen. JS came back from worse last year and Reed was in the mix. Even if RD is on the gas, he doesn't have the experience or the track record of CR. CR is in many ways the Brett Favre of SX, he has started A LOT of races and consistently finished very well. JS was able to come back and defeat CR, he can do the same to RD. Not saying he will, just saying he very well could.

Let's just see how this weekend goes, obviously after that our 'fortune telling' powers will be muuuch stronger. ;v)
If he had broken ribs Doc Bodner and the medic unit would not of cleared him to ride the lcq. They do xrays back there in 3 min flat and can tell instantly too. Riding with broken ribs (which i've done) hurts more then you can imagine and and is seriously dangerous. The broken rib can puncture other organs if they go the wrong way. I think he just bruised or tore cartiledge around them. Which in itself is enough to take you out for a season. The way I broke them I stuck my handlebars through them so not only did I break them but I tore everything in there as well. It only takes a few weeks to heal the break but the bruising and tears are so painful that it kept me off the bike for 6 months+. 4 months after doing it I thought i could race. I drove 4 hours to a track paid entry and then in practice realized I wasted my money. too much pain to race.

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