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So how do you get around then? Do you use the electricity you stored to pump it into a new vehicle that they can shut down? Or do you go with the gasoline route?
Often I wonder if people forget that they will start charging the crap out of consumers to charge the vehicles.
If we're gonna go there, no difference in remotely shutting down a gas powered vehicle than an electric one charged off grid, if "they" have that capability.
I am keen to see how the Stark goes in a combined race. Theres been a lot of claims that most people will be faster on a Stark, it should be easy to tell once they start racing. Lets see if the riders pick up a few positions to where they would normally finish.
I'll be staying home....
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I'll be working OT at my fossil fueled power Plant so they can charge all those "green" bikes and cars...
Way more people listen to music through their phones than surround sound . Just sayin your experience might not be the average . Electric AX would open up the possibility of a lot more venues .
Lol got it, you sound very informed.
Your missing the entire point. Venues for who? The fan base will not be the same. No kidding more people listen through their phone because it is easier. Doesn’t mean it is better
If Supercross and Motocross go 100% electric, that will OFFICIALLY kill the sport. Nobody's going to pay money to go to a supercross race and listen to a bunch of whining electric engines, while you can hear the God awful slapping of the rear tire against the Whoops.
Imagine the sweet sound of a 125 or 250f blitzing whoops and then substitute an electric bike. I bet people will come in droves to see that lol.
I also can’t wait for a bike failure… Ricky can you walk us through what happened? “ those orange yamahas have been fast all year, but this looks mechanical guys” James “it looks like an electrical failure Ricky, they don’t have engines, tough break he should of tucked the front”
They can bury all the dead batteries with all the dead windmill blades in Sweetwater texas.
Not sure what the issue is..just because theres e-bikes doesnt mean everyone will just buy them..we are a LONG LONG LONG ways away until you see more e-bikes over gas at a track.
Pure guess, like everyone else...but not so sure of that.
I believe there is a lot of money in the MTB crowd and the Sur-ron youngsters, I think they like Moto but the grease engine and the motor maintenance might be off-putting. Maybe we start to see more Porsche Taycans pulling e-bikes in the pit in the future?
Maybe we will lose 25% of 'core Moto ppl' but we gain 35% from some other direction?
I highly doubt that, especially when MTB Jimmy gets whisky throttle at 80HP, launches a double at 65 mph and over jumps it by 200 feet. Moto is dangerous and a niche sport and expensive and time consuming. All electric will kill the outdoors and supercross. Want to add another class to the already 30 available fine, but full on replacement will be the end of moto as we currently know it. Thats not doom and gloom, thats just my honest opinion and many others.
I have a battery bank I built out of bird scooter batteries, Im able to charge my sons ktm ebike and all our buddies bikes(3-4) as many times as I want at the track for 2 days without recharging them. They fit in a home depot toolbox. The generator argument is so boring, you dont need one, battery banks are where its at. This stuff is progressing so quickly in 5 years it wont even be a discussion.
I do not understand how we go from "here is the first truly competitive electric dirt bike available to the masses" to "all electric will kill the sport"?
Electric dirt bikes reached the market, if you like it you can buy it, if you don't you can look at it with disdain all day long, no problem.
Now I'm entering the realm of speculations and fantaisies to try to get some logic into this argument. Say one day in 10, 20 or 50 years your government bans ICE dirtbikes. Does anyone seriously think it will have anything to do with a turtleneck-loving CEO? On this hypothetical fateful day, either dirtbikes cease to exist or the sport survives thanks to alternative means of propulsion.
Electric dirtbikes are just another option to have fun on 2 wheels and do not remove anything from anyone.
I would say that somebody who quits riding over the sound the machine makes is NOT "core". Sound while riding is only a part of the experience.
I have a hard time believing that many of the people who say they will quit riding, than ride electric even ride now.
I've watched SX races without any volume on and they have been exciting still. For me the noise of the crowd getting excited brings the level of excitement up more than the engine sounds .
Downhill MTB's are just as dangerous if not more than MX. You can turn the power down on an EMX bike . Both sports can be as dangerous as You make them.
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Unfortunately Electric bikes will be our only option, and not that far out.
I don't think e-bikes will be the only option. At least, not any more so than 4-strokes are the "only" option right now. ICE bikes will simply not be competitive enough, and that may happen soon or it may take decades. Either way, you'll ride an e-bike because it's better, or you'll ride an ICE bike because you like it more - just like I prefer 2-strokes. Nobody, not even I, claims that a 250 2-stroke is "better" for Motocross than a 450 these days.
EV bikes and cars taking over will not be as soon as quite a few think. We do not have the infrastucture for supporting the charging needs. Wanting to go green is not enough.
How about wanting to ride the most powerful, easiest to ride dirt bike?
Just had a crazy idea as I drove by a golf course. Golf courses could build MX tracks around and though the fairways and greens. E-MX Bikes could be ridden and raced just just about every town. There’s already parking, infrastructure for charging (golf carts), bar, restaurants, commercial space for sale of gear/parts (pro shop), water, equipment for maintenance, and just about everything.
Of course not every golf course would be on board but maybe a few would.
Have you guys seen the aftermarket performance bicycle parts industry? They don’t have motors either. Seems like it’s rolling along pretty well.
I will never buy a ticket to sx or mx to watch electric bikes. 100 times no for watching on tv.
That's just the first step. The end goal is to kill off-roading all together....ya know...desert tortoise, erosion issues and all.
That capability was just approved by the Biden administration. It's BS that the government will be able to control your car remotely.
And they aren't green. I'm not talking about carbon. I'm talking about the scarcity of rare earth minerals, and the fact that solar panels are very difficult to recycle.
I believe with an all electric future, we would run out of rare earth minerals far before we'd run out of fossil fuels.
To be green, everything needs to be recyclable.
It'll be great when we're no longer depleting resources from one generation to the next, but there's a lot that needs to happen before electric powered vehicles are more sustainable that ICE.
I'll be racing my 125 for a long, long time. Then we'll see what's available.
Who knows, maybe hydrogen dirt bikes will come around. And the side effect is that tracks will be automatically watered.
Absolutely, I haven't ridden one, but they appear to be pretty awesome by most accounts. The world just isn't ready to go all in yet.
I agree completely.
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