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9/15/2023 11:40am

They added the missile compartment to the top of the boat...behind the sail...10 tubes. Man, that's some serious 1950s tech! Laughing

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Btw Kongols how you doing? All good?

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Btw Kongols how you doing? All good?

Still recovering. Head is a little messed up, especially hearing. I don`t know if I wrote that I lost hearing in one ear for three days.

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It`s a miracle so many survived the blast. If I understood correctly, only one russian surrendering lost his life there.

 

 

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9/16/2023 6:40am
colintrax wrote:

Btw Kongols how you doing? All good?

kongols wrote:

Still recovering. Head is a little messed up, especially hearing. I don`t know if I wrote that I lost hearing in one ear for three days.

DudeBlink.  I thought you just fell over but sounds like you fell off the roof.

If it effected your hearing...your balance is probably whack, too?  Heal up, Bud.Wink

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I'm just going to leave this here. 

 

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Interesting thread on some Russian culture background leading up to this aggression. (Click to expand its a long thread)

 

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early wrote:

Interesting thread on some Russian culture background leading up to this aggression. (Click to expand its a long thread)

 

NAFO. 
Instantly not taken seriously when that’s revealed. 

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early wrote:

Interesting thread on some Russian culture background leading up to this aggression. (Click to expand its a long thread)

 

swordfish wrote:

NAFO. 
Instantly not taken seriously when that’s revealed. 

She's talking about you butt licker

 

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early wrote:

Interesting thread on some Russian culture background leading up to this aggression. (Click to expand its a long thread)

 

swordfish wrote:

NAFO. 
Instantly not taken seriously when that’s revealed. 

early wrote:

She's talking about you butt licker

 

Back to name calling because you can’t come up with anything intelligent to say. It’s your main playbook. At least you’re good at something. 

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Slava Ukraine. IMG 3907

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early wrote:

Interesting thread on some Russian culture background leading up to this aggression. (Click to expand its a long thread)

 

swordfish wrote:

NAFO. 
Instantly not taken seriously when that’s revealed. 

early wrote:

She's talking about you butt licker

 

I have no idea how a person could watch that without laughing their ass off. Oh, hopefully that's a "washed ass". Laughing

Hey, Russian "Ass" Lady...you just keep doing your thing. It keeps us laughing.

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9/30/2023 6:04pm

The English are considering escorting ships in and out of Ukrainian ports.

Huge L on Russias navy. They're been pushed back by Ukrainian drones, and now their blockade is going to be unenforceable. 

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Did you miss the story about the Canadian Parliament honoring a 93 year old Nazi SS Officer last week for "fighting the Russians?"

canadian nazi

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9/30/2023 8:19pm

Guys, no! The narrative says the Russians are nazis! We can’t let people know that Ukrainians fought for the third reich.

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Guys, no! The narrative says the Russians are nazis! We can’t let people know that Ukrainians fought for the third reich.

They do have elements of nazism, but they are much more closer to fascism. And here I`m talking their government, not individuals.

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/  ronunciation_respelling_key" title="HelpTongue ronunciation respelling key" rel="nofollow">FASH-iz-əm) is a far-rightauthoritarianultranationalist political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracymilitarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.[2][3]

Fascism rose to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.[4][5] The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I, before spreading to other European countries, most notably Germany.[4] Fascism also had adherents outside of Europe.[6] Opposed to anarchismdemocracypluralismliberalismsocialism, and Marxism,[7][8] fascism is placed on the far-right wing within the traditional left–right spectrum.[4][8][9]

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9/30/2023 10:42pm Edited Date/Time 10/1/2023 2:50am

Guys, no! The narrative says the Russians are nazis! We can’t let people know that Ukrainians fought for the third reich.

During WW2, when germans kicked out russsians from Latvia, germans mobilized thousands of locals and forced them to fight. They did the same in russia too. Russians were fighting against Moscow.

When WW2 was over and russians kicked out germans, many latvians who served in werhmacht did not give up arms and kept fighting for free Latvia. They lived in a woods. Russian history portrey them as nazis, but they were latvian patriots who fought russsians long 8 yearss after WW2 was over.

At that time germanss were considered better evil. Average german solder was more civilized. Russianss did horible things here, whiped out 25% of Latvians. They did the same in Ukraine. Russians starved to death 7 million ukrainians. Russians were evil then. Many saw germans as liberators. It`s easy for us to paint everything black and white 80 years later. Majority of population in Europe found out about german athrositiess and concentration camps only after WW2 was over.

At the end of WW2 , 150000 latvians or 10% of population left Latvia to Sweden or Germany cause they knew what`s comming and did not want live under russians again.

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10/1/2023 3:08am

Guys, no! The narrative says the Russians are nazis! We can’t let people know that Ukrainians fought for the third reich.

Was there a country in occupied Europe that didn't have volunteers in the Waffen SS? Even Britain had 30 POWs volunteer. 

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IMG 0585Yeah Putin is that worried about Nazi’s! Anything to fit the narrative.
😂😂😂

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Guys, no! The narrative says the Russians are nazis! We can’t let people know that Ukrainians fought for the third reich.

kongols wrote:
During WW2, when germans kicked out russsians from Latvia, germans mobilized thousands of locals and forced them to fight. They did the same in russia too...

During WW2, when germans kicked out russsians from Latvia, germans mobilized thousands of locals and forced them to fight. They did the same in russia too. Russians were fighting against Moscow.

When WW2 was over and russians kicked out germans, many latvians who served in werhmacht did not give up arms and kept fighting for free Latvia. They lived in a woods. Russian history portrey them as nazis, but they were latvian patriots who fought russsians long 8 yearss after WW2 was over.

At that time germanss were considered better evil. Average german solder was more civilized. Russianss did horible things here, whiped out 25% of Latvians. They did the same in Ukraine. Russians starved to death 7 million ukrainians. Russians were evil then. Many saw germans as liberators. It`s easy for us to paint everything black and white 80 years later. Majority of population in Europe found out about german athrositiess and concentration camps only after WW2 was over.

At the end of WW2 , 150000 latvians or 10% of population left Latvia to Sweden or Germany cause they knew what`s comming and did not want live under russians again.

Ukrainians, Latvians, Estonians and Lithuanians did some pretty awful things themself. It’s ok to accept some bad history. My country did some bad shit too. 

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Guys, no! The narrative says the Russians are nazis! We can’t let people know that Ukrainians fought for the third reich.

Was there a country in occupied Europe that didn't have volunteers in the Waffen SS? Even Britain had 30 POWs volunteer. 

😂that’s a pretty bad example. Let’s not try to whitewash history here. 

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10/1/2023 6:48am Edited Date/Time 10/1/2023 6:54am
swordfish wrote:

😂that’s a pretty bad example. Let’s not try to whitewash history here. 

I suggest you do some research on the Waffen SS, It had volunteers in the thousands from all over Europe. The 5th SS Wiking division would be a good place to start, collaboration was far from a solely Ukrainian affair which was the point of the British example that you completely missed. 

Just to clarify I'm not even pro-Ukrainian, its clear neither side is going to win in what has effectively turned into the western front of 1916. 

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😂that’s a pretty bad example. Let’s not try to whitewash history here. 

I suggest you do some research on the Waffen SS, It had volunteers in the thousands from all over Europe. The 5th SS Wiking division would...

I suggest you do some research on the Waffen SS, It had volunteers in the thousands from all over Europe. The 5th SS Wiking division would be a good place to start, collaboration was far from a solely Ukrainian affair which was the point of the British example that you completely missed. 

Just to clarify I'm not even pro-Ukrainian, its clear neither side is going to win in what has effectively turned into the western front of 1916. 

I didn’t say the SS didn’t have volunteers across Europe. I said 40 UK volunteers was a bad example compared to the 1st Galacian that murdered hundreds of thousands. 

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10/1/2023 8:41am

Guys, no! The narrative says the Russians are nazis! We can’t let people know that Ukrainians fought for the third reich.

kongols wrote:
During WW2, when germans kicked out russsians from Latvia, germans mobilized thousands of locals and forced them to fight. They did the same in russia too...

During WW2, when germans kicked out russsians from Latvia, germans mobilized thousands of locals and forced them to fight. They did the same in russia too. Russians were fighting against Moscow.

When WW2 was over and russians kicked out germans, many latvians who served in werhmacht did not give up arms and kept fighting for free Latvia. They lived in a woods. Russian history portrey them as nazis, but they were latvian patriots who fought russsians long 8 yearss after WW2 was over.

At that time germanss were considered better evil. Average german solder was more civilized. Russianss did horible things here, whiped out 25% of Latvians. They did the same in Ukraine. Russians starved to death 7 million ukrainians. Russians were evil then. Many saw germans as liberators. It`s easy for us to paint everything black and white 80 years later. Majority of population in Europe found out about german athrositiess and concentration camps only after WW2 was over.

At the end of WW2 , 150000 latvians or 10% of population left Latvia to Sweden or Germany cause they knew what`s comming and did not want live under russians again.

No disagreement here. The Ukrainians pretty much had to choose between serfdom for Russia or volunteering for Germany. Their decision to do either was based more in practicality and survival than it was ideology. This was a common circumstance for many people in the vast geography between Berlin and Moscow. 
 

The point is that trying to associate Nazi ideology with modern Russia is nothing more than fear mongering because, administratively, Russia has never been aligned with Nazism. There may be elements within Russia that idolize Nazi military history as a model of combat capability and intimidation, but the nation as a whole doesn’t subscribe to the ideology. Ukraine similarly. The narrative of trying to paint Russians as Nazis fuzzies the historical context and whitewashes the history of Ukraine because, though they were making the choice between two really shitty options, they were largely sympathetic to the Nazis and that’s a difficult fact to contend with when you need to drum up support for a war. 
 

 

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Seems like some democrats are up in arms with the pause in Ukraine funding.....  How many billions need to be pumped in before its enough?

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Seems like some democrats are up in arms with the pause in Ukraine funding.....  How many billions need to be pumped in before its enough?

give the Joe Rogan episode with Tulsi Gabbard and BJ Penn a listen... 

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Seems like some democrats are up in arms with the pause in Ukraine funding.....  How many billions need to be pumped in before its enough?

peelout wrote:

give the Joe Rogan episode with Tulsi Gabbard and BJ Penn a listen... 

Will do.

 

Surprised my post has as many down votes as it does tbh.

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Flatliner wrote:

Seems like some democrats are up in arms with the pause in Ukraine funding.....  How many billions need to be pumped in before its enough?

peelout wrote:

give the Joe Rogan episode with Tulsi Gabbard and BJ Penn a listen... 

Flatliner wrote:

Will do.

 

Surprised my post has as many down votes as it does tbh.

This is a pro Ukraine thread for the most part, should not be surprised. 

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Flatliner wrote:

Seems like some democrats are up in arms with the pause in Ukraine funding.....  How many billions need to be pumped in before its enough?

Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Lybia. Trillions spent in the name of peace, democracy and stability and more trillions to spend in the future for veterans benefits, and interest to be paid on the printed and borrowed money.  And still we dont know how much it costs to bring peace, democracy and stability but we sure know what it costs to turn all of these countries upside down and into chaos and instability.  And we know how many people need to die to accomplish this. 

Ukraine, Syria, Yemen, Somalia, ?  How about Iran, China ?

How much is enough ? I dont know but the diplomacy play book got thrown out the window long ago and it sure sounds like the US is going to keep pumping money and weapons into Eastern Europe until we find out. Or run out of people to kill.

War is an industry that much of the US economy is relies on. And the people that get filthy rich in this industry will do everything they can to keep feeding the monster.

I dont really have words strong enough but its a hell of a thing Ive been watching go on for the last 20 years. 

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