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Spoonguy wrote:
Doesn't it seem like KTM management doesn't want Chase to race the Honda at the desNations? Previously he stated he would go, Honda said they would...

Doesn't it seem like KTM management doesn't want Chase to race the Honda at the desNations? Previously he stated he would go, Honda said they would support him, then later he states he has to do preseason testing? 

ML512 wrote:

His Honda contract runs through (and actually slightly past) the MXoN dates, KTM wouldn't have say over him racing the Honda there.

Can you get him on the phone and ask him to go on behalf of us plebs please?

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If you can’t send the best why go? Seriously, besides the point structure for this event what is the difference from a MXGP? Ive always looked...

If you can’t send the best why go?

Seriously, besides the point structure for this event what is the difference from a MXGP?

Ive always looked at this event at just a way for GP and USA to race against each other. 
 

Im just being honest, I watch it every year I root for the home team but I really don’t see the hype for USA. 
 

Add in SMX and some corny WSX attempt and it’s pretty obvious no one wants to go especially without a payday. 
 

Flame away, but it’s my truth. 🙃

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If you can’t send the best why go? Seriously, besides the point structure for this event what is the difference from a MXGP? Ive always looked...

If you can’t send the best why go?

Seriously, besides the point structure for this event what is the difference from a MXGP?

Ive always looked at this event at just a way for GP and USA to race against each other. 
 

Im just being honest, I watch it every year I root for the home team but I really don’t see the hype for USA. 
 

Add in SMX and some corny WSX attempt and it’s pretty obvious no one wants to go especially without a payday. 
 

Flame away, but it’s my truth. 🙃

"If you can’t send the best why go?"

What a strange way of thinking. About 50% of the teams have to change their line up (sometimes last minute) due to injuries or other reasons. Should all those teams stay at home then?

Example: in 2011 Clément Desalle, Steve Ramon, Ken De Dycker and Jeremy Van Horebeek were injured and unavailable for the Nations. Belgium sent Kevin Strijbos, Joël Roelants and Marvin Van Daele, a guy who quit racing GP's a few years before and was working full time as a postman. Belgium still got 5th overall.

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9/13/2023 5:12am Edited Date/Time 9/13/2023 5:13am
Spoonguy wrote:
Doesn't it seem like KTM management doesn't want Chase to race the Honda at the desNations? Previously he stated he would go, Honda said they would...

Doesn't it seem like KTM management doesn't want Chase to race the Honda at the desNations? Previously he stated he would go, Honda said they would support him, then later he states he has to do preseason testing? 

ML512 wrote:

His Honda contract runs through (and actually slightly past) the MXoN dates, KTM wouldn't have say over him racing the Honda there.

So what’s the story there?  All along the (unofficial) explanation was that his Honda contract would be expired, but KTM had granted him leave to race on the Honda.

It was therefore assumed that contract conflicts were preventing Chase from going.

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9/13/2023 5:18am
If you can’t send the best why go? Seriously, besides the point structure for this event what is the difference from a MXGP? Ive always looked...

If you can’t send the best why go?

Seriously, besides the point structure for this event what is the difference from a MXGP?

Ive always looked at this event at just a way for GP and USA to race against each other. 
 

Im just being honest, I watch it every year I root for the home team but I really don’t see the hype for USA. 
 

Add in SMX and some corny WSX attempt and it’s pretty obvious no one wants to go especially without a payday. 
 

Flame away, but it’s my truth. 🙃

DeStouwer wrote:
"If you can’t send the best why go?" What a strange way of thinking. About 50% of the teams have to change their line up (sometimes...

"If you can’t send the best why go?"

What a strange way of thinking. About 50% of the teams have to change their line up (sometimes last minute) due to injuries or other reasons. Should all those teams stay at home then?

Example: in 2011 Clément Desalle, Steve Ramon, Ken De Dycker and Jeremy Van Horebeek were injured and unavailable for the Nations. Belgium sent Kevin Strijbos, Joël Roelants and Marvin Van Daele, a guy who quit racing GP's a few years before and was working full time as a postman. Belgium still got 5th overall.

Pretty much ….yes. 
 

I personally don’t care about a race for the “best of all nations” with not the best. 

If you want the best to race each other you’re going to have to make the payday worth it. That’s more motivating than country loyalty for a yearly one off race scheduled at a poor time for some. 
 

 

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If you can’t send the best why go? Seriously, besides the point structure for this event what is the difference from a MXGP? Ive always looked...

If you can’t send the best why go?

Seriously, besides the point structure for this event what is the difference from a MXGP?

Ive always looked at this event at just a way for GP and USA to race against each other. 
 

Im just being honest, I watch it every year I root for the home team but I really don’t see the hype for USA. 
 

Add in SMX and some corny WSX attempt and it’s pretty obvious no one wants to go especially without a payday. 
 

Flame away, but it’s my truth. 🙃

DeStouwer wrote:
"If you can’t send the best why go?" What a strange way of thinking. About 50% of the teams have to change their line up (sometimes...

"If you can’t send the best why go?"

What a strange way of thinking. About 50% of the teams have to change their line up (sometimes last minute) due to injuries or other reasons. Should all those teams stay at home then?

Example: in 2011 Clément Desalle, Steve Ramon, Ken De Dycker and Jeremy Van Horebeek were injured and unavailable for the Nations. Belgium sent Kevin Strijbos, Joël Roelants and Marvin Van Daele, a guy who quit racing GP's a few years before and was working full time as a postman. Belgium still got 5th overall.

Pretty much ….yes.    I personally don’t care about a race for the “best of all nations” with not the best.  If you want the best...

Pretty much ….yes. 
 

I personally don’t care about a race for the “best of all nations” with not the best. 

If you want the best to race each other you’re going to have to make the payday worth it. That’s more motivating than country loyalty for a yearly one off race scheduled at a poor time for some. 
 

 

“That’s more motivating for a few American riders than country loyalty for a yearly one off race scheduled at a poor time for some”

Fixed it for you.

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If you can’t send the best why go? Seriously, besides the point structure for this event what is the difference from a MXGP? Ive always looked...

If you can’t send the best why go?

Seriously, besides the point structure for this event what is the difference from a MXGP?

Ive always looked at this event at just a way for GP and USA to race against each other. 
 

Im just being honest, I watch it every year I root for the home team but I really don’t see the hype for USA. 
 

Add in SMX and some corny WSX attempt and it’s pretty obvious no one wants to go especially without a payday. 
 

Flame away, but it’s my truth. 🙃

I can see the GP vs USA angle, and with all of the GP vs AMA banter that goes on, I like to see the podium of GP vs AMA, like last year the AMA dominated the podium.

But it's more the format and the whole Olympic style competition that makes it so interesting and fun.  Like many here do for the AMA races, I get up in the middle of the night to watch MXoN.  And yes, you go whether your best is available or not.  Obviously winning is the goal and shit happens at MXoN, so you never know.

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9/13/2023 5:29am
Spoonguy wrote:
Doesn't it seem like KTM management doesn't want Chase to race the Honda at the desNations? Previously he stated he would go, Honda said they would...

Doesn't it seem like KTM management doesn't want Chase to race the Honda at the desNations? Previously he stated he would go, Honda said they would support him, then later he states he has to do preseason testing? 

ML512 wrote:

His Honda contract runs through (and actually slightly past) the MXoN dates, KTM wouldn't have say over him racing the Honda there.

Not true, there were discussions to try and extend the Honda contract but to many other sponsor conflicts including KTM

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I still watch and pay for MXoN each year. 
 

It’s just not that important to me with out the best riders. 
 

I totally see how many riders don’t care either. 
 

I also see how everyone wants it to be this international have loyalty for your country Olympic pride thing. Then pay them to want to go and the fans will get that. If not you won’t really get the best I’m afraid and every year we have the same discussion. 
 

It’s just one guys opinion. 🤔

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9/13/2023 5:40am Edited Date/Time 9/13/2023 5:41am
ML512 wrote:

His Honda contract runs through (and actually slightly past) the MXoN dates, KTM wouldn't have say over him racing the Honda there.

That being the case makes me think it’s even more on him. 
The whole outlook changes when the top guys say we need to go. It’s not ideal for anyone, but the umming and ahing is ridiculous. 

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9/13/2023 5:43am
If you can’t send the best why go? Seriously, besides the point structure for this event what is the difference from a MXGP? Ive always looked...

If you can’t send the best why go?

Seriously, besides the point structure for this event what is the difference from a MXGP?

Ive always looked at this event at just a way for GP and USA to race against each other. 
 

Im just being honest, I watch it every year I root for the home team but I really don’t see the hype for USA. 
 

Add in SMX and some corny WSX attempt and it’s pretty obvious no one wants to go especially without a payday. 
 

Flame away, but it’s my truth. 🙃

DeStouwer wrote:
"If you can’t send the best why go?" What a strange way of thinking. About 50% of the teams have to change their line up (sometimes...

"If you can’t send the best why go?"

What a strange way of thinking. About 50% of the teams have to change their line up (sometimes last minute) due to injuries or other reasons. Should all those teams stay at home then?

Example: in 2011 Clément Desalle, Steve Ramon, Ken De Dycker and Jeremy Van Horebeek were injured and unavailable for the Nations. Belgium sent Kevin Strijbos, Joël Roelants and Marvin Van Daele, a guy who quit racing GP's a few years before and was working full time as a postman. Belgium still got 5th overall.

Pretty much ….yes.    I personally don’t care about a race for the “best of all nations” with not the best.  If you want the best...

Pretty much ….yes. 
 

I personally don’t care about a race for the “best of all nations” with not the best. 

If you want the best to race each other you’re going to have to make the payday worth it. That’s more motivating than country loyalty for a yearly one off race scheduled at a poor time for some. 
 

 

That's the American way, money before country!

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DeStouwer wrote:
"If you can’t send the best why go?" What a strange way of thinking. About 50% of the teams have to change their line up (sometimes...

"If you can’t send the best why go?"

What a strange way of thinking. About 50% of the teams have to change their line up (sometimes last minute) due to injuries or other reasons. Should all those teams stay at home then?

Example: in 2011 Clément Desalle, Steve Ramon, Ken De Dycker and Jeremy Van Horebeek were injured and unavailable for the Nations. Belgium sent Kevin Strijbos, Joël Roelants and Marvin Van Daele, a guy who quit racing GP's a few years before and was working full time as a postman. Belgium still got 5th overall.

Pretty much ….yes.    I personally don’t care about a race for the “best of all nations” with not the best.  If you want the best...

Pretty much ….yes. 
 

I personally don’t care about a race for the “best of all nations” with not the best. 

If you want the best to race each other you’re going to have to make the payday worth it. That’s more motivating than country loyalty for a yearly one off race scheduled at a poor time for some. 
 

 

That's the American way, money before country!

That's the American way, money before country!

image-20230913224253-1

Yes, money gets you the best so you can have a RACE that is trying to promote the best. 
 

You want the best to RACE based on country loyalty for a RACE that is promoted to have the best. 
 

You see if you just expect that on country loyalty that money will win out. 
 

Wait is this yearly race for the fans or for ???

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9/13/2023 6:08am
DeStouwer wrote:
"If you can’t send the best why go?" What a strange way of thinking. About 50% of the teams have to change their line up (sometimes...

"If you can’t send the best why go?"

What a strange way of thinking. About 50% of the teams have to change their line up (sometimes last minute) due to injuries or other reasons. Should all those teams stay at home then?

Example: in 2011 Clément Desalle, Steve Ramon, Ken De Dycker and Jeremy Van Horebeek were injured and unavailable for the Nations. Belgium sent Kevin Strijbos, Joël Roelants and Marvin Van Daele, a guy who quit racing GP's a few years before and was working full time as a postman. Belgium still got 5th overall.

Pretty much ….yes.    I personally don’t care about a race for the “best of all nations” with not the best.  If you want the best...

Pretty much ….yes. 
 

I personally don’t care about a race for the “best of all nations” with not the best. 

If you want the best to race each other you’re going to have to make the payday worth it. That’s more motivating than country loyalty for a yearly one off race scheduled at a poor time for some. 
 

 

That's the American way, money before country!

That's the American way, money before country!

image-20230913224253-1

Kinda like the guys that come to the usa series for more $$.  Ironic you said that. 

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Pretty much ….yes.    I personally don’t care about a race for the “best of all nations” with not the best.  If you want the best...

Pretty much ….yes. 
 

I personally don’t care about a race for the “best of all nations” with not the best. 

If you want the best to race each other you’re going to have to make the payday worth it. That’s more motivating than country loyalty for a yearly one off race scheduled at a poor time for some. 
 

 

That's the American way, money before country!

That's the American way, money before country!

image-20230913224253-1

Yes, money gets you the best so you can have a RACE that is trying to promote the best.    You want the best to RACE...

Yes, money gets you the best so you can have a RACE that is trying to promote the best. 
 

You want the best to RACE based on country loyalty for a RACE that is promoted to have the best. 
 

You see if you just expect that on country loyalty that money will win out. 
 

Wait is this yearly race for the fans or for ???

AMA Pro Motocross Champions are the best aren't they?

Current 250 and 450 AMA Pro are competing for their country.

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That's the American way, money before country!

That's the American way, money before country!

image-20230913224253-1

Yes, money gets you the best so you can have a RACE that is trying to promote the best.    You want the best to RACE...

Yes, money gets you the best so you can have a RACE that is trying to promote the best. 
 

You want the best to RACE based on country loyalty for a RACE that is promoted to have the best. 
 

You see if you just expect that on country loyalty that money will win out. 
 

Wait is this yearly race for the fans or for ???

AMA Pro Motocross Champions are the best aren't they?

Current 250 and 450 AMA Pro are competing for their country.

Why did the come to the usa to race, pretty they could have gotten a ride in europe?   You know why, $$$$$.   So i guess according to you ,greed only usa. Lol. 

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DeStouwer wrote:
"If you can’t send the best why go?" What a strange way of thinking. About 50% of the teams have to change their line up (sometimes...

"If you can’t send the best why go?"

What a strange way of thinking. About 50% of the teams have to change their line up (sometimes last minute) due to injuries or other reasons. Should all those teams stay at home then?

Example: in 2011 Clément Desalle, Steve Ramon, Ken De Dycker and Jeremy Van Horebeek were injured and unavailable for the Nations. Belgium sent Kevin Strijbos, Joël Roelants and Marvin Van Daele, a guy who quit racing GP's a few years before and was working full time as a postman. Belgium still got 5th overall.

Pretty much ….yes.    I personally don’t care about a race for the “best of all nations” with not the best.  If you want the best...

Pretty much ….yes. 
 

I personally don’t care about a race for the “best of all nations” with not the best. 

If you want the best to race each other you’re going to have to make the payday worth it. That’s more motivating than country loyalty for a yearly one off race scheduled at a poor time for some. 
 

 

That's the American way, money before country!

That's the American way, money before country!

image-20230913224253-1

I'm amazed by the amount of hate some of you Aussies have towards the US...have you ever been? I've been to Aus many times and have never run into anybody that was anti-American...I guess every country has its bad apples...

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Pretty much ….yes.    I personally don’t care about a race for the “best of all nations” with not the best.  If you want the best...

Pretty much ….yes. 
 

I personally don’t care about a race for the “best of all nations” with not the best. 

If you want the best to race each other you’re going to have to make the payday worth it. That’s more motivating than country loyalty for a yearly one off race scheduled at a poor time for some. 
 

 

That's the American way, money before country!

That's the American way, money before country!

image-20230913224253-1

DonM wrote:
I'm amazed by the amount of hate some of you Aussies have towards the US...have you ever been? I've been to Aus many times and have...

I'm amazed by the amount of hate some of you Aussies have towards the US...have you ever been? I've been to Aus many times and have never run into anybody that was anti-American...I guess every country has its bad apples...

I don't have hate toward the US, just pointing out the difference in culture, and I've been to the US over 60 times!

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9/13/2023 6:31am Edited Date/Time 9/13/2023 6:32am
That's the American way, money before country!

That's the American way, money before country!

image-20230913224253-1

Yes, money gets you the best so you can have a RACE that is trying to promote the best.    You want the best to RACE...

Yes, money gets you the best so you can have a RACE that is trying to promote the best. 
 

You want the best to RACE based on country loyalty for a RACE that is promoted to have the best. 
 

You see if you just expect that on country loyalty that money will win out. 
 

Wait is this yearly race for the fans or for ???

AMA Pro Motocross Champions are the best aren't they?

Current 250 and 450 AMA Pro are competing for their country.

The best in the AMA Pro Motocross series, Yes you are correct. 
 

No, the 250 and 450 are competing for the AMA Pro Motocross series championship. 
Makes no difference where you were born. 
 

 

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That's the American way, money before country!

That's the American way, money before country!

image-20230913224253-1

DonM wrote:
I'm amazed by the amount of hate some of you Aussies have towards the US...have you ever been? I've been to Aus many times and have...

I'm amazed by the amount of hate some of you Aussies have towards the US...have you ever been? I've been to Aus many times and have never run into anybody that was anti-American...I guess every country has its bad apples...

I don't have hate toward the US, just pointing out the difference in culture, and I've been to the US over 60 times!

Culture as in australia $ greed also?

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9/13/2023 6:47am
Yes, money gets you the best so you can have a RACE that is trying to promote the best.    You want the best to RACE...

Yes, money gets you the best so you can have a RACE that is trying to promote the best. 
 

You want the best to RACE based on country loyalty for a RACE that is promoted to have the best. 
 

You see if you just expect that on country loyalty that money will win out. 
 

Wait is this yearly race for the fans or for ???

AMA Pro Motocross Champions are the best aren't they?

Current 250 and 450 AMA Pro are competing for their country.

The best in the AMA Pro Motocross series, Yes you are correct.    No, the 250 and 450 are competing for the AMA Pro Motocross series...

The best in the AMA Pro Motocross series, Yes you are correct. 
 

No, the 250 and 450 are competing for the AMA Pro Motocross series championship. 
Makes no difference where you were born. 
 

 

The current 250 and 450 AMA Pro Motocross Champions are willing to presenting their country, why don't riders want to represent the US?

Money? Jett and Hunter won't be getting paid to represent their country.

Too many races? Jett and Hunter have competed in the same races.

Contract? That doesn't excuse Chase, who's contract expires after MXdN.

Injuries? Yes, that's a valid excuse.

Wedding? Yes, another valid excuse!

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Pretty much ….yes.    I personally don’t care about a race for the “best of all nations” with not the best.  If you want the best...

Pretty much ….yes. 
 

I personally don’t care about a race for the “best of all nations” with not the best. 

If you want the best to race each other you’re going to have to make the payday worth it. That’s more motivating than country loyalty for a yearly one off race scheduled at a poor time for some. 
 

 

That's the American way, money before country!

That's the American way, money before country!

image-20230913224253-1

Yes, money gets you the best so you can have a RACE that is trying to promote the best.    You want the best to RACE...

Yes, money gets you the best so you can have a RACE that is trying to promote the best. 
 

You want the best to RACE based on country loyalty for a RACE that is promoted to have the best. 
 

You see if you just expect that on country loyalty that money will win out. 
 

Wait is this yearly race for the fans or for ???

Screenshot 20230913 154948 Drive

Looks like payment to me.

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Why did the come to the usa to race, pretty they could have gotten a ride in europe?   You know why, $$$$$.   So i guess according...

Why did the come to the usa to race, pretty they could have gotten a ride in europe?   You know why, $$$$$.   So i guess according to you ,greed only usa. Lol. 

Why are they riding at MXoN?  

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9/13/2023 7:02am Edited Date/Time 9/13/2023 7:03am

AMA Pro Motocross Champions are the best aren't they?

Current 250 and 450 AMA Pro are competing for their country.

The best in the AMA Pro Motocross series, Yes you are correct.    No, the 250 and 450 are competing for the AMA Pro Motocross series...

The best in the AMA Pro Motocross series, Yes you are correct. 
 

No, the 250 and 450 are competing for the AMA Pro Motocross series championship. 
Makes no difference where you were born. 
 

 

The current 250 and 450 AMA Pro Motocross Champions are willing to presenting their country, why don't riders want to represent the US? Money? Jett and...

The current 250 and 450 AMA Pro Motocross Champions are willing to presenting their country, why don't riders want to represent the US?

Money? Jett and Hunter won't be getting paid to represent their country.

Too many races? Jett and Hunter have competed in the same races.

Contract? That doesn't excuse Chase, who's contract expires after MXdN.

Injuries? Yes, that's a valid excuse.

Wedding? Yes, another valid excuse!

Chase Honda contract is up Sept 30,  there were some talks to extend it 2 weeks but to many other sponsor and team conflicts to make it happen. . 

9/13/2023 7:05am

AMA Pro Motocross Champions are the best aren't they?

Current 250 and 450 AMA Pro are competing for their country.

The best in the AMA Pro Motocross series, Yes you are correct.    No, the 250 and 450 are competing for the AMA Pro Motocross series...

The best in the AMA Pro Motocross series, Yes you are correct. 
 

No, the 250 and 450 are competing for the AMA Pro Motocross series championship. 
Makes no difference where you were born. 
 

 

The current 250 and 450 AMA Pro Motocross Champions are willing to presenting their country, why don't riders want to represent the US? Money? Jett and...

The current 250 and 450 AMA Pro Motocross Champions are willing to presenting their country, why don't riders want to represent the US?

Money? Jett and Hunter won't be getting paid to represent their country.

Too many races? Jett and Hunter have competed in the same races.

Contract? That doesn't excuse Chase, who's contract expires after MXdN.

Injuries? Yes, that's a valid excuse.

Wedding? Yes, another valid excuse!

I’m not naming names, I’m just saying I see and understand why every year we never have the best or it’s always something messed up with team selection etc. 

Give each rider $100k and pay all expense and you will have the best lined up to race. 
 

$350k per team ($50k to alternate in case of injury) and you will know the team in January each year. 
 

 

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mxb2 wrote:
Why did the come to the usa to race, pretty they could have gotten a ride in europe?   You know why, $$$$$.   So i guess according...

Why did the come to the usa to race, pretty they could have gotten a ride in europe?   You know why, $$$$$.   So i guess according to you ,greed only usa. Lol. 

ando wrote:

Why are they riding at MXoN?  

That wasnt my question, you avoided the answer is $$$. And you know it.  Came to the usa for $$

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DonM wrote:
I'm amazed by the amount of hate some of you Aussies have towards the US...have you ever been? I've been to Aus many times and have...

I'm amazed by the amount of hate some of you Aussies have towards the US...have you ever been? I've been to Aus many times and have never run into anybody that was anti-American...I guess every country has its bad apples...

I’ve been to the US many times.  I don’t hate Americans (or anyone else).

What I don’t have time for is attitudes like “we can’t go unless we’re going to win”, “if I go I need a full entourage of support with me”, “it needs to be worth my while financially”, “I couldn’t possibly compete on anything less than a full factory bike”.

It shows a complete lack of humility and total disrespect for other riders.

Last I saw there are over 130 riders entered which means over 40 countries.  The vast majority of those, while they may call themselves professional, won’t make enough money to support themselves as racers.  They will have begged, borrowed and used whatever means necessary to get to France and organise a bike to race.  Meanwhile the wealthiest and best supported racers in the world are making excuses why they can’t go.

Now it’s certainly every individual’s right to make their own choices.  However sometimes decisions have consequences and in this case the outrage is well justified against those who are claiming it’s too hard for the above reasons.

There are legitimate reasons like personal circumstances, contractual issues etc.  I get those.

But man, someone like Chase Sexton, just to pick a random example, would build his esteem no end in my eyes (and I suspect many others) if he said “screw it, if I can’t get full factory support just pick me anyway.  I’ll organise some suspension and a bike and I’ll meet you at Ernee”.

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9/13/2023 7:23am Edited Date/Time 9/13/2023 7:25am
mxb2 wrote:

That wasnt my question, you avoided the answer is $$$. And you know it.  Came to the usa for $$

Yep, came to the US for $$$.  Riding the MXoN for free.

You seem to struggle with the concept that people can do both.

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DonM wrote:
I'm amazed by the amount of hate some of you Aussies have towards the US...have you ever been? I've been to Aus many times and have...

I'm amazed by the amount of hate some of you Aussies have towards the US...have you ever been? I've been to Aus many times and have never run into anybody that was anti-American...I guess every country has its bad apples...

ando wrote:
I’ve been to the US many times.  I don’t hate Americans (or anyone else). What I don’t have time for is attitudes like “we can’t go...

I’ve been to the US many times.  I don’t hate Americans (or anyone else).

What I don’t have time for is attitudes like “we can’t go unless we’re going to win”, “if I go I need a full entourage of support with me”, “it needs to be worth my while financially”, “I couldn’t possibly compete on anything less than a full factory bike”.

It shows a complete lack of humility and total disrespect for other riders.

Last I saw there are over 130 riders entered which means over 40 countries.  The vast majority of those, while they may call themselves professional, won’t make enough money to support themselves as racers.  They will have begged, borrowed and used whatever means necessary to get to France and organise a bike to race.  Meanwhile the wealthiest and best supported racers in the world are making excuses why they can’t go.

Now it’s certainly every individual’s right to make their own choices.  However sometimes decisions have consequences and in this case the outrage is well justified against those who are claiming it’s too hard for the above reasons.

There are legitimate reasons like personal circumstances, contractual issues etc.  I get those.

But man, someone like Chase Sexton, just to pick a random example, would build his esteem no end in my eyes (and I suspect many others) if he said “screw it, if I can’t get full factory support just pick me anyway.  I’ll organise some suspension and a bike and I’ll meet you at Ernee”.

Why arent the lawrence brothers racing in australia? In that series?    Hmmmm

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9/13/2023 7:27am
DonM wrote:
I'm amazed by the amount of hate some of you Aussies have towards the US...have you ever been? I've been to Aus many times and have...

I'm amazed by the amount of hate some of you Aussies have towards the US...have you ever been? I've been to Aus many times and have never run into anybody that was anti-American...I guess every country has its bad apples...

ando wrote:
I’ve been to the US many times.  I don’t hate Americans (or anyone else). What I don’t have time for is attitudes like “we can’t go...

I’ve been to the US many times.  I don’t hate Americans (or anyone else).

What I don’t have time for is attitudes like “we can’t go unless we’re going to win”, “if I go I need a full entourage of support with me”, “it needs to be worth my while financially”, “I couldn’t possibly compete on anything less than a full factory bike”.

It shows a complete lack of humility and total disrespect for other riders.

Last I saw there are over 130 riders entered which means over 40 countries.  The vast majority of those, while they may call themselves professional, won’t make enough money to support themselves as racers.  They will have begged, borrowed and used whatever means necessary to get to France and organise a bike to race.  Meanwhile the wealthiest and best supported racers in the world are making excuses why they can’t go.

Now it’s certainly every individual’s right to make their own choices.  However sometimes decisions have consequences and in this case the outrage is well justified against those who are claiming it’s too hard for the above reasons.

There are legitimate reasons like personal circumstances, contractual issues etc.  I get those.

But man, someone like Chase Sexton, just to pick a random example, would build his esteem no end in my eyes (and I suspect many others) if he said “screw it, if I can’t get full factory support just pick me anyway.  I’ll organise some suspension and a bike and I’ll meet you at Ernee”.

mxb2 wrote:

Why arent the lawrence brothers racing in australia? In that series?    Hmmmm

To earn money I assume.  How does that relate to the question?

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9/13/2023 7:32am Edited Date/Time 9/13/2023 7:32am
DonM wrote:
I'm amazed by the amount of hate some of you Aussies have towards the US...have you ever been? I've been to Aus many times and have...

I'm amazed by the amount of hate some of you Aussies have towards the US...have you ever been? I've been to Aus many times and have never run into anybody that was anti-American...I guess every country has its bad apples...

ando wrote:
I’ve been to the US many times.  I don’t hate Americans (or anyone else). What I don’t have time for is attitudes like “we can’t go...

I’ve been to the US many times.  I don’t hate Americans (or anyone else).

What I don’t have time for is attitudes like “we can’t go unless we’re going to win”, “if I go I need a full entourage of support with me”, “it needs to be worth my while financially”, “I couldn’t possibly compete on anything less than a full factory bike”.

It shows a complete lack of humility and total disrespect for other riders.

Last I saw there are over 130 riders entered which means over 40 countries.  The vast majority of those, while they may call themselves professional, won’t make enough money to support themselves as racers.  They will have begged, borrowed and used whatever means necessary to get to France and organise a bike to race.  Meanwhile the wealthiest and best supported racers in the world are making excuses why they can’t go.

Now it’s certainly every individual’s right to make their own choices.  However sometimes decisions have consequences and in this case the outrage is well justified against those who are claiming it’s too hard for the above reasons.

There are legitimate reasons like personal circumstances, contractual issues etc.  I get those.

But man, someone like Chase Sexton, just to pick a random example, would build his esteem no end in my eyes (and I suspect many others) if he said “screw it, if I can’t get full factory support just pick me anyway.  I’ll organise some suspension and a bike and I’ll meet you at Ernee”.

"What I don’t have time for is attitudes like “we can’t go unless we’re going to win”, “if I go I need a full entourage of support with me”, “it needs to be worth my while financially”, “I couldn’t possibly compete on anything less than a full factory bike”."

Do you have a link where a rider has said any of those things?

 

"But man, someone like Chase Sexton, just to pick a random example, would build his esteem no end in my eyes (and I suspect many others) if he said “screw it, if I can’t get full factory support just pick me anyway.  I’ll organise some suspension and a bike and I’ll meet you at Ernee”."

You understand Chase Sexton is under contract with a team, right? Please tell me you at least understand that.

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