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9/12/2023 12:56pm
mxb2 wrote:

So did vialle. Lmao won world titles,cdnt beat a 17 year old , and lost to levi kitchen 

Bonanza69 wrote:

Oh boy,don‘t start that shit once again!

What, the truth ?

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mxb2 wrote:

So did vialle. Lmao won world titles,cdnt beat a 17 year old , and lost to levi kitchen 

Bonanza69 wrote:

Oh boy,don‘t start that shit once again!

mxb2 wrote:

What, the truth ?

Like Butrón getting top 10s in AMA and barely scoring points in GP's when he left?

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64smoker wrote:

Ferrandis couldn’t win championships here he went to the US to get his 3 

mxb2 wrote:

So did vialle. Lmao won world titles,cdnt beat a 17 year old , and lost to levi kitchen 

64smoker wrote:
Vialle and ktm knew he wasn’t ready to go up a class , diffrent rules over here mx2 is more of a feeder class , not...

Vialle and ktm knew he wasn’t ready to go up a class , diffrent rules over here mx2 is more of a feeder class , not full of guys in there mid to late twenty’s , vialles settling in just fine imo anyone who thought he would win every week straight away on tracks he’s never ridden and a bike that’s way of star / pc would be a fool 

Deegan is 17, kitchen late twentys lol.  Better research. 

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Bonanza69 wrote:

Oh boy,don‘t start that shit once again!

mxb2 wrote:

What, the truth ?

DeStouwer wrote:

Like Butrón getting top 10s in AMA and barely scoring points in GP's when he left?

With a full field is a 20th place guy.  Oh. Or like the champ who filled in at star. Lol. 

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9/12/2023 1:01pm
mxb2 wrote:

So did vialle. Lmao won world titles,cdnt beat a 17 year old , and lost to levi kitchen 

64smoker wrote:
Vialle and ktm knew he wasn’t ready to go up a class , diffrent rules over here mx2 is more of a feeder class , not...

Vialle and ktm knew he wasn’t ready to go up a class , diffrent rules over here mx2 is more of a feeder class , not full of guys in there mid to late twenty’s , vialles settling in just fine imo anyone who thought he would win every week straight away on tracks he’s never ridden and a bike that’s way of star / pc would be a fool 

mxb2 wrote:

Deegan is 17, kitchen late twentys lol.  Better research. 

Can’t compare someone going over to a compleltey new series , if you wanted to go of crap like that we could discuss herlings lapping Blake baggett and barcia ( both ama champions ) round lommel ? But I wouldn’t go there it’s ridiculous comparison lol 

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mxb2 wrote:

With a full field is a 20th place guy.  Oh. Or like the champ who filled in at star. Lol. 

A field of European Ex-GP riders, lol.

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9/12/2023 1:04pm Edited Date/Time 9/12/2023 1:25pm
DeStouwer wrote:
So you're telling me you're helping various Dutch amateurs of whom you've never heard before (or most of them) to race some Nationals, all out of...

So you're telling me you're helping various Dutch amateurs of whom you've never heard before (or most of them) to race some Nationals, all out of your own pocket without any (chance on) ROI? Don't blame me for being sceptical about that please.

My point being: you blame InFront for not paying the American riders (while there is some prize money in MXoN), then you blame a handfull of GP riders for getting "a crap load of money" as you stated yourself at an international race (double standards, anyone?) and then you try to tell me you work for free - actually you're losing money - by helping some Dutch guys who will never make it to the top (not talking about Elzinga here). Seems all a bit contradictory to me.

Yes.

I have three or four Dutch nobodies racing the nationals next year on bikes that I buy.  They will be here this winter to train in California, and they stay in my house and don't pay one cent for anything. Ask around if you dont believe me.

 I do it because I love the sport and I believe in their potential. Some of the greatest riders come from very humble beginnings. Two years ago Rick was going to quit and go back to school - then he raced here and decided to give it one more shot and now he's not doing so badly.

 Sometimes these kids who only race in sand come here and see that they are actually pretty good, they just need to believe in themselves.

 

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mxb2 wrote:

What, the truth ?

Go back to the Vialle threads,they are full of your shit!Don‘t forget to search in the dumbgeon forum.

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64smoker wrote:
Vialle and ktm knew he wasn’t ready to go up a class , diffrent rules over here mx2 is more of a feeder class , not...

Vialle and ktm knew he wasn’t ready to go up a class , diffrent rules over here mx2 is more of a feeder class , not full of guys in there mid to late twenty’s , vialles settling in just fine imo anyone who thought he would win every week straight away on tracks he’s never ridden and a bike that’s way of star / pc would be a fool 

mxb2 wrote:

Deegan is 17, kitchen late twentys lol.  Better research. 

64smoker wrote:
Can’t compare someone going over to a compleltey new series , if you wanted to go of crap like that we could discuss herlings lapping Blake...

Can’t compare someone going over to a compleltey new series , if you wanted to go of crap like that we could discuss herlings lapping Blake baggett and barcia ( both ama champions ) round lommel ? But I wouldn’t go there it’s ridiculous comparison lol 

Sure dude, guess the 450 mxgp title isnt as important as you think it is. Or vialle would have. moved up

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mxb2 wrote:

What, the truth ?

Bonanza69 wrote:

Go back to the Vialle threads,they are full of your shit!Don‘t forget to search in the dumbgeon forum.

Yep ,same as your garbage on here. You just dont like facts. And you are so worried about the usa mxon team.  Are you even going to the race? Or. Maybe you could start a fundraiser ,since you are so upset.    Screenshot your effort. 

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64smoker wrote:
Vialle and ktm knew he wasn’t ready to go up a class , diffrent rules over here mx2 is more of a feeder class , not...

Vialle and ktm knew he wasn’t ready to go up a class , diffrent rules over here mx2 is more of a feeder class , not full of guys in there mid to late twenty’s , vialles settling in just fine imo anyone who thought he would win every week straight away on tracks he’s never ridden and a bike that’s way of star / pc would be a fool 

mxb2 wrote:

Deegan is 17, kitchen late twentys lol.  Better research. 

64smoker wrote:
Can’t compare someone going over to a compleltey new series , if you wanted to go of crap like that we could discuss herlings lapping Blake...

Can’t compare someone going over to a compleltey new series , if you wanted to go of crap like that we could discuss herlings lapping Blake baggett and barcia ( both ama champions ) round lommel ? But I wouldn’t go there it’s ridiculous comparison lol 

Do you a favor and ignore the comments of this guy,he will go full retard!Lol

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9/12/2023 1:16pm
mxb2 wrote:

Deegan is 17, kitchen late twentys lol.  Better research. 

64smoker wrote:
Can’t compare someone going over to a compleltey new series , if you wanted to go of crap like that we could discuss herlings lapping Blake...

Can’t compare someone going over to a compleltey new series , if you wanted to go of crap like that we could discuss herlings lapping Blake baggett and barcia ( both ama champions ) round lommel ? But I wouldn’t go there it’s ridiculous comparison lol 

Bonanza69 wrote:

Do you a favor and ignore the comments of this guy,he will go full retard!Lol

But here you are responding with juvenile insults. Gotta love the keyboard. Tough guys. 

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DeStouwer wrote:
So you're telling me you're helping various Dutch amateurs of whom you've never heard before (or most of them) to race some Nationals, all out of...

So you're telling me you're helping various Dutch amateurs of whom you've never heard before (or most of them) to race some Nationals, all out of your own pocket without any (chance on) ROI? Don't blame me for being sceptical about that please.

My point being: you blame InFront for not paying the American riders (while there is some prize money in MXoN), then you blame a handfull of GP riders for getting "a crap load of money" as you stated yourself at an international race (double standards, anyone?) and then you try to tell me you work for free - actually you're losing money - by helping some Dutch guys who will never make it to the top (not talking about Elzinga here). Seems all a bit contradictory to me.

Brent wrote:
Yes. I have three or four Dutch nobodies racing the nationals next year on bikes that I buy.  They will be here this winter to train...

Yes.

I have three or four Dutch nobodies racing the nationals next year on bikes that I buy.  They will be here this winter to train in California, and they stay in my house and don't pay one cent for anything. Ask around if you dont believe me.

 I do it because I love the sport and I believe in their potential. Some of the greatest riders come from very humble beginnings. Two years ago Rick was going to quit and go back to school - then he raced here and decided to give it one more shot and now he's not doing so badly.

 Sometimes these kids who only race in sand come here and see that they are actually pretty good, they just need to believe in themselves.

 

Well, hats off, then.

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9/12/2023 1:22pm
mxb2 wrote:

Deegan is 17, kitchen late twentys lol.  Better research. 

64smoker wrote:
Can’t compare someone going over to a compleltey new series , if you wanted to go of crap like that we could discuss herlings lapping Blake...

Can’t compare someone going over to a compleltey new series , if you wanted to go of crap like that we could discuss herlings lapping Blake baggett and barcia ( both ama champions ) round lommel ? But I wouldn’t go there it’s ridiculous comparison lol 

Bonanza69 wrote:

Do you a favor and ignore the comments of this guy,he will go full retard!Lol

Shame Jeffrey didn’t pop over for Ironman , tools like him hid under for there mums bed for 6 months 

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9/12/2023 1:22pm
64smoker wrote:

Ferrandis couldn’t win championships here he went to the US to get his 3 

mxb2 wrote:

So did vialle. Lmao won world titles,cdnt beat a 17 year old , and lost to levi kitchen 

64smoker wrote:
Vialle and ktm knew he wasn’t ready to go up a class , diffrent rules over here mx2 is more of a feeder class , not...

Vialle and ktm knew he wasn’t ready to go up a class , diffrent rules over here mx2 is more of a feeder class , not full of guys in there mid to late twenty’s , vialles settling in just fine imo anyone who thought he would win every week straight away on tracks he’s never ridden and a bike that’s way of star / pc would be a fool 

"Full of riders in their mid to late 20's"? there were only two in MX in the top ten and only one finished ahead of him...all the others were his age or younger....facts, let's stick with the facts...

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9/12/2023 1:23pm
Brent wrote:
Yes. I have three or four Dutch nobodies racing the nationals next year on bikes that I buy.  They will be here this winter to train...

Yes.

I have three or four Dutch nobodies racing the nationals next year on bikes that I buy.  They will be here this winter to train in California, and they stay in my house and don't pay one cent for anything. Ask around if you dont believe me.

 I do it because I love the sport and I believe in their potential. Some of the greatest riders come from very humble beginnings. Two years ago Rick was going to quit and go back to school - then he raced here and decided to give it one more shot and now he's not doing so badly.

 Sometimes these kids who only race in sand come here and see that they are actually pretty good, they just need to believe in themselves.

 

Brent...I don't know you from the man in the moon but I like your words.  I am out in your neck of the woods pretty often (letting the wife visit her sister and love on the nieces and nephews and their kids).  If I rock up to the "party in Temecula"...I'm gonna at least expect a "howdy pard".Cool

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How do the mxgp riders do these extra races when the team owners control them like string puppets as I've been told is the case in...

How do the mxgp riders do these extra races when the team owners control them like string puppets as I've been told is the case in the US? 

It’s not the same for MXGP riders. They need the gate drops for testing and to stay sharp as they sometimes have longer breaks in between rounds. 

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9/12/2023 1:30pm
64smoker wrote:
Can’t compare someone going over to a compleltey new series , if you wanted to go of crap like that we could discuss herlings lapping Blake...

Can’t compare someone going over to a compleltey new series , if you wanted to go of crap like that we could discuss herlings lapping Blake baggett and barcia ( both ama champions ) round lommel ? But I wouldn’t go there it’s ridiculous comparison lol 

Bonanza69 wrote:

Do you a favor and ignore the comments of this guy,he will go full retard!Lol

64smoker wrote:

Shame Jeffrey didn’t pop over for Ironman , tools like him hid under for there mums bed for 6 months 

He cant stay healthy for his own series.   Mum. Lmfao,spell it right. 

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Bonanza69 wrote:

Do you a favor and ignore the comments of this guy,he will go full retard!Lol

64smoker wrote:

Shame Jeffrey didn’t pop over for Ironman , tools like him hid under for there mums bed for 6 months 

mxb2 wrote:

He cant stay healthy for his own series.   Mum. Lmfao,spell it right. 

Sorry * hid under mommy’s bed*

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9/12/2023 1:38pm
64smoker wrote:

Shame Jeffrey didn’t pop over for Ironman , tools like him hid under for there mums bed for 6 months 

mxb2 wrote:

He cant stay healthy for his own series.   Mum. Lmfao,spell it right. 

64smoker wrote:

Sorry * hid under mommy’s bed*

Like i said ,juvenile comments.  And you are proving my point lmao,and you keep responding. A mum is a flower dummy, google it.   See how the name calling goes both ways.  Hard to debate with someone who has no clue how to even make a lame attempt at a joke.   Foh. 

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Enlighten us on the total number of races that the French team riders have raced outside of MXGP this year as they are the favored team...I'm...

Enlighten us on the total number of races that the French team riders have raced outside of MXGP this year as they are the favored team...I'm really just curious as I see this argument all the time but it's never backed up with facts....and a fact for your side...I can't think of one top rider in the US that has raced all 31 races.... 

Argaudas wrote:
MXGP guys start racing at around march in Italian championships (sometimes there's some snow around), then off to ADAC masters, Belgium championships, early British championships, many...

MXGP guys start racing at around march in Italian championships (sometimes there's some snow around), then off to ADAC masters, Belgium championships, early British championships, many go to toughest Netherland tracks, Spain, Swiss and many others. They have many races to attend, Americans aren't so special. So that "muricans got more races" excuses is full of bullshit, they aren't the only ones with many races on the calendar, they just choose to play that card. 

DonM wrote:
You're not telling me something I already know...I was just curious about the actual number....Like I said above everyone talks about the 31 race schedule but...

You're not telling me something I already know...I was just curious about the actual number....Like I said above everyone talks about the 31 race schedule but not one top rider in the US has raced all 31...Chase, Jett, Webb, Barcia etc...have all had time off this year AP has probably the most....I was just wondering what the actual number of races that the top MXGP race have raced this year. 

In the time it’s taken you to write these replies you could of just looked it up yourself. 

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9/12/2023 1:44pm
mxb2 wrote:

He cant stay healthy for his own series.   Mum. Lmfao,spell it right. 

64smoker wrote:

Sorry * hid under mommy’s bed*

mxb2 wrote:
Like i said ,juvenile comments.  And you are proving my point lmao,and you keep responding. A mum is a flower dummy, google it.   See how the...

Like i said ,juvenile comments.  And you are proving my point lmao,and you keep responding. A mum is a flower dummy, google it.   See how the name calling goes both ways.  Hard to debate with someone who has no clue how to even make a lame attempt at a joke.   Foh. 

They say Mum short for mother in the UK 

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9/12/2023 1:47pm
Brent wrote:
Yes. I have three or four Dutch nobodies racing the nationals next year on bikes that I buy.  They will be here this winter to train...

Yes.

I have three or four Dutch nobodies racing the nationals next year on bikes that I buy.  They will be here this winter to train in California, and they stay in my house and don't pay one cent for anything. Ask around if you dont believe me.

 I do it because I love the sport and I believe in their potential. Some of the greatest riders come from very humble beginnings. Two years ago Rick was going to quit and go back to school - then he raced here and decided to give it one more shot and now he's not doing so badly.

 Sometimes these kids who only race in sand come here and see that they are actually pretty good, they just need to believe in themselves.

 

Thats awesome (genuinely) Brent.

But you should be embarrassed  by those of your star riders who have such a low respect for their country, the history of the sport and the fans on both sides of the pond.

It's the  best fxxxg race of the year but they can't come because mommy says no/daddy won'tpay/they may not win. Really?

Send anyone you can find, they will be welcomed and cheered just like every other nation, even if they only make the B final. I guarantee they will relish the event, the experience, the occasion.

The ones who choose to stay at home and waste the opportunity are the losers,  in my eyes.

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64smoker wrote:

Sorry * hid under mommy’s bed*

mxb2 wrote:
Like i said ,juvenile comments.  And you are proving my point lmao,and you keep responding. A mum is a flower dummy, google it.   See how the...

Like i said ,juvenile comments.  And you are proving my point lmao,and you keep responding. A mum is a flower dummy, google it.   See how the name calling goes both ways.  Hard to debate with someone who has no clue how to even make a lame attempt at a joke.   Foh. 

ATKpilot99 wrote:

They say Mum short for mother in the UK 

Like i said a juvenile comment on a usa site 

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"Full of riders in their mid to late 20's"? there were only two in MX in the top ten and only one finished ahead of him...all...

"Full of riders in their mid to late 20's"? there were only two in MX in the top ten and only one finished ahead of him...all the others were his age or younger....facts, let's stick with the facts...

Fact is,your new 250 national champion raced in europe and never won a title here.How many seasons has he under his belt?How many seasons have the other frontrunners raced on theses national tracks,Kitchen,Cooper,Shimoda…..?Do you really believe that Vialle should win in his first season?If so,you are as dumb as the mxb2 guy.

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"Full of riders in their mid to late 20's"? there were only two in MX in the top ten and only one finished ahead of him...all...

"Full of riders in their mid to late 20's"? there were only two in MX in the top ten and only one finished ahead of him...all the others were his age or younger....facts, let's stick with the facts...

Bonanza69 wrote:
Fact is,your new 250 national champion raced in europe and never won a title here.How many seasons has he under his belt?How many seasons have the...

Fact is,your new 250 national champion raced in europe and never won a title here.How many seasons has he under his belt?How many seasons have the other frontrunners raced on theses national tracks,Kitchen,Cooper,Shimoda…..?Do you really believe that Vialle should win in his first season?If so,you are as dumb as the mxb2 guy.

You said mid late twentys lmao, get the facts straight, 

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mxb2 wrote:

You said mid late twentys lmao, get the facts straight, 

No,not me,the 64smoker!Put on your glasses,thanks.

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9/12/2023 1:57pm

This thread appears to be bringing the child out in some folks.  Name calling, chest thumping, and general ignorance.  

We're all gutted about the MXdN situation but not enough to throw a tantrum.Blush

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MxAddic wrote:

Danger being 17 I don't think he is the one making the decision. Only later in life will he know if it was a mistake.

Kid is on his game too. Even with the teams chances of winning low, he could put on a hell of a ride. MXdN is where legends are made. 

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9/12/2023 2:00pm

I would prefer to not read through 27 pages of this thread, but have we formally said that we are not going yet ?? 

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