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9/7/2023 3:51pm
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2019-j.cooper 2022-tomac+Cooper

DonM wrote:
Correct on 2019 2022 was Red Bud but they have been in and out over the years outside of Red Bud, but just because they did...

Correct on 2019 2022 was Red Bud but they have been in and out over the years outside of Red Bud, but just because they did doesn't mean they do now....

You mean to tell me if Deegan said to the team. Guys I really wanna race this race.  They’re gonna turn him down and say no...

You mean to tell me if Deegan said to the team. Guys I really wanna race this race.  They’re gonna turn him down and say no?? Their next possible future champion.  GTFO.  

What exactly does “Star” have to lose by not sending a team?The team isn’t advertising any specific sponsor.. sure, the team itself has sponsors but those sponsors also sponsor other teams so that means nothing. 
 

the biggest issue may be that “Star” isn’t a specific product they’re trying to sell. If the consumers (us) get pissed off at Star for not sending a team then there’s absolutely nothing we can do about it (such as boycotting the product because there isn’t one.) if this was simply Team Yamaha there may be more of an incentive for Bobby Reagan to send the riders. But the fact is, Bobby and team Star get nothing out of sending a team other than lighter pockets. I don’t like it, you don’t like it, but there ain’t a damn thing anyone can do about it. 

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They were going to support Ferrandis, so I don't know. 

DonM wrote:

They were also going to charge France for it...

Press516 wrote:
Yeah, like $70k was the rumor...  Sure sounds like Star and Kawasaki USA simply said no although maybe the negotiations with Star went on a while...

Yeah, like $70k was the rumor...  Sure sounds like Star and Kawasaki USA simply said no although maybe the negotiations with Star went on a while with Roger and AMA??

Didn't Mathes say it would cost Deegan 20k in RacerX to go?

And I could see why Star wouldn't support DF for the race, they are parting ways.

And it's pretty obvious that Star is run quite differently than Kawi. 100% they would be sending Justin Cooper this year if he could go.

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DonM wrote:

They were also going to charge France for it...

Press516 wrote:
Yeah, like $70k was the rumor...  Sure sounds like Star and Kawasaki USA simply said no although maybe the negotiations with Star went on a while...

Yeah, like $70k was the rumor...  Sure sounds like Star and Kawasaki USA simply said no although maybe the negotiations with Star went on a while with Roger and AMA??

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Didn't Mathes say it would cost Deegan 20k in RacerX to go? And I could see why Star wouldn't support DF for the race, they are...

Didn't Mathes say it would cost Deegan 20k in RacerX to go?

And I could see why Star wouldn't support DF for the race, they are parting ways.

And it's pretty obvious that Star is run quite differently than Kawi. 100% they would be sending Justin Cooper this year if he could go.

He has said before that Eli told him one year he went,  it cost him 20k of his own money.  I'm sure he's just using that as a baseline for what kind of expense the riders who attend could face.  

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agn5008 wrote:

Plessinger MX1, Vohland MX2 and Hampshire Open. Interesting team. I can’t wait to see how they do. 

I'm struggling to see how Vohland could do it...  He's changing teams over to PC from KTM.  Same issues that others like Sexton have.  Why would it not be Barcia in open and Hampshire on MX2??

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Press516 wrote:
Yeah, like $70k was the rumor...  Sure sounds like Star and Kawasaki USA simply said no although maybe the negotiations with Star went on a while...

Yeah, like $70k was the rumor...  Sure sounds like Star and Kawasaki USA simply said no although maybe the negotiations with Star went on a while with Roger and AMA??

TAUTOG wrote:
Didn't Mathes say it would cost Deegan 20k in RacerX to go? And I could see why Star wouldn't support DF for the race, they are...

Didn't Mathes say it would cost Deegan 20k in RacerX to go?

And I could see why Star wouldn't support DF for the race, they are parting ways.

And it's pretty obvious that Star is run quite differently than Kawi. 100% they would be sending Justin Cooper this year if he could go.

TK40_FC wrote:
He has said before that Eli told him one year he went,  it cost him 20k of his own money.  I'm sure he's just using that...

He has said before that Eli told him one year he went,  it cost him 20k of his own money.  I'm sure he's just using that as a baseline for what kind of expense the riders who attend could face.  

Yeah and Deegan probably made way more than that while standing on the podium waving the American flag 

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9/7/2023 5:01pm Edited Date/Time 9/7/2023 5:02pm

What a shit show. The first delay was understandable, but if entries had to be in by the 5th, then why the continued secrecy? Just making a bad situation appear worse.

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TAUTOG wrote:
Didn't Mathes say it would cost Deegan 20k in RacerX to go? And I could see why Star wouldn't support DF for the race, they are...

Didn't Mathes say it would cost Deegan 20k in RacerX to go?

And I could see why Star wouldn't support DF for the race, they are parting ways.

And it's pretty obvious that Star is run quite differently than Kawi. 100% they would be sending Justin Cooper this year if he could go.

TK40_FC wrote:
He has said before that Eli told him one year he went,  it cost him 20k of his own money.  I'm sure he's just using that...

He has said before that Eli told him one year he went,  it cost him 20k of his own money.  I'm sure he's just using that as a baseline for what kind of expense the riders who attend could face.  

TAUTOG wrote:

Yeah and Deegan probably made way more than that while standing on the podium waving the American flag 

Tog if we look at it objectively for Deegan, and I’m just using my own opinion here, but there’s not much chance for America to win this year. Why waste the money when he will most certainly have another chance to go next year with a healthy Tomac (given he does outdoors and wants to go out with the trifecta) and a KTM mounted Sexton with no front end wash issues? Just a thought but I would want to go (not that I will ever be invited 😂) when America stood a solid chance to win the event! 

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CPR wrote:
What a shit show. The first delay was understandable, but if entries had to be in by the 5th, then why the continued secrecy? Just making...

What a shit show. The first delay was understandable, but if entries had to be in by the 5th, then why the continued secrecy? Just making a bad situation appear worse.

Triumph is running the roll out of Team USA this year! 😂

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TK40_FC wrote:
He has said before that Eli told him one year he went,  it cost him 20k of his own money.  I'm sure he's just using that...

He has said before that Eli told him one year he went,  it cost him 20k of his own money.  I'm sure he's just using that as a baseline for what kind of expense the riders who attend could face.  

TAUTOG wrote:

Yeah and Deegan probably made way more than that while standing on the podium waving the American flag 

TalinH112 wrote:
Tog if we look at it objectively for Deegan, and I’m just using my own opinion here, but there’s not much chance for America to win...

Tog if we look at it objectively for Deegan, and I’m just using my own opinion here, but there’s not much chance for America to win this year. Why waste the money when he will most certainly have another chance to go next year with a healthy Tomac (given he does outdoors and wants to go out with the trifecta) and a KTM mounted Sexton with no front end wash issues? Just a thought but I would want to go (not that I will ever be invited 😂) when America stood a solid chance to win the event! 

So only go when you can win???

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TAUTOG wrote:

Yeah and Deegan probably made way more than that while standing on the podium waving the American flag 

TalinH112 wrote:
Tog if we look at it objectively for Deegan, and I’m just using my own opinion here, but there’s not much chance for America to win...

Tog if we look at it objectively for Deegan, and I’m just using my own opinion here, but there’s not much chance for America to win this year. Why waste the money when he will most certainly have another chance to go next year with a healthy Tomac (given he does outdoors and wants to go out with the trifecta) and a KTM mounted Sexton with no front end wash issues? Just a thought but I would want to go (not that I will ever be invited 😂) when America stood a solid chance to win the event! 

CPR wrote:

So only go when you can win???

If you have to front 20k of your own money then yes. Deegan doesn’t make his money off Star racing Yamaha, he makes it off YouTube. No one wants to watch The Deegans- “The time we got our ass kicked in France!” They wanna watch the Deegans- “The time we kicked everyone’s ass in XYZ!” Again just my opinion but I happen to think it’s a pretty good one. 😂🤙🏻

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TK40_FC wrote:
He has said before that Eli told him one year he went,  it cost him 20k of his own money.  I'm sure he's just using that...

He has said before that Eli told him one year he went,  it cost him 20k of his own money.  I'm sure he's just using that as a baseline for what kind of expense the riders who attend could face.  

TAUTOG wrote:

Yeah and Deegan probably made way more than that while standing on the podium waving the American flag 

TalinH112 wrote:
Tog if we look at it objectively for Deegan, and I’m just using my own opinion here, but there’s not much chance for America to win...

Tog if we look at it objectively for Deegan, and I’m just using my own opinion here, but there’s not much chance for America to win this year. Why waste the money when he will most certainly have another chance to go next year with a healthy Tomac (given he does outdoors and wants to go out with the trifecta) and a KTM mounted Sexton with no front end wash issues? Just a thought but I would want to go (not that I will ever be invited 😂) when America stood a solid chance to win the event! 

"Waste of money"

GTFO

You are not guaranteed you will have the chance again next year or any year. 

Even if the team doesn't win YOU could win MX2. 

And if you wanna talk YouTube going to France and racing and filming one of the biggest races of year wouldn't get clicks? And also more  people interested in the event this year and going forward idk what to tell you

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TalinH112 wrote:
Tog if we look at it objectively for Deegan, and I’m just using my own opinion here, but there’s not much chance for America to win...

Tog if we look at it objectively for Deegan, and I’m just using my own opinion here, but there’s not much chance for America to win this year. Why waste the money when he will most certainly have another chance to go next year with a healthy Tomac (given he does outdoors and wants to go out with the trifecta) and a KTM mounted Sexton with no front end wash issues? Just a thought but I would want to go (not that I will ever be invited 😂) when America stood a solid chance to win the event! 

And therein lies the crux of the whole situation.  
 

 

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TK40_FC wrote:
He has said before that Eli told him one year he went,  it cost him 20k of his own money.  I'm sure he's just using that...

He has said before that Eli told him one year he went,  it cost him 20k of his own money.  I'm sure he's just using that as a baseline for what kind of expense the riders who attend could face.  

TAUTOG wrote:

Yeah and Deegan probably made way more than that while standing on the podium waving the American flag 

TalinH112 wrote:
Tog if we look at it objectively for Deegan, and I’m just using my own opinion here, but there’s not much chance for America to win...

Tog if we look at it objectively for Deegan, and I’m just using my own opinion here, but there’s not much chance for America to win this year. Why waste the money when he will most certainly have another chance to go next year with a healthy Tomac (given he does outdoors and wants to go out with the trifecta) and a KTM mounted Sexton with no front end wash issues? Just a thought but I would want to go (not that I will ever be invited 😂) when America stood a solid chance to win the event! 

Seems like a great, low-pressure opportunity to go and get some experience to be prepared when a more “serious” team is fielded. 

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9/7/2023 5:33pm
TAUTOG wrote:

Yeah and Deegan probably made way more than that while standing on the podium waving the American flag 

TalinH112 wrote:
Tog if we look at it objectively for Deegan, and I’m just using my own opinion here, but there’s not much chance for America to win...

Tog if we look at it objectively for Deegan, and I’m just using my own opinion here, but there’s not much chance for America to win this year. Why waste the money when he will most certainly have another chance to go next year with a healthy Tomac (given he does outdoors and wants to go out with the trifecta) and a KTM mounted Sexton with no front end wash issues? Just a thought but I would want to go (not that I will ever be invited 😂) when America stood a solid chance to win the event! 

TAUTOG wrote:
"Waste of money" GTFO You are not guaranteed you will have the chance again next year or any year.  Even if the team doesn't win YOU...

"Waste of money"

GTFO

You are not guaranteed you will have the chance again next year or any year. 

Even if the team doesn't win YOU could win MX2. 

And if you wanna talk YouTube going to France and racing and filming one of the biggest races of year wouldn't get clicks? And also more  people interested in the event this year and going forward idk what to tell you

Thank you.  That talin dude got his head up his ass.  So why would any other country outside the top few even participate? They’re not going to win so why freaking go. That Jamaican bobsled team didn’t have a chance to win… 

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TalinH112 wrote:
Tog if we look at it objectively for Deegan, and I’m just using my own opinion here, but there’s not much chance for America to win...

Tog if we look at it objectively for Deegan, and I’m just using my own opinion here, but there’s not much chance for America to win this year. Why waste the money when he will most certainly have another chance to go next year with a healthy Tomac (given he does outdoors and wants to go out with the trifecta) and a KTM mounted Sexton with no front end wash issues? Just a thought but I would want to go (not that I will ever be invited 😂) when America stood a solid chance to win the event! 

TAUTOG wrote:
"Waste of money" GTFO You are not guaranteed you will have the chance again next year or any year.  Even if the team doesn't win YOU...

"Waste of money"

GTFO

You are not guaranteed you will have the chance again next year or any year. 

Even if the team doesn't win YOU could win MX2. 

And if you wanna talk YouTube going to France and racing and filming one of the biggest races of year wouldn't get clicks? And also more  people interested in the event this year and going forward idk what to tell you

Thank you.  That talin dude got his head up his ass.  So why would any other country outside the top few even participate? They’re not going...

Thank you.  That talin dude got his head up his ass.  So why would any other country outside the top few even participate? They’re not going to win so why freaking go. That Jamaican bobsled team didn’t have a chance to win… 

I’m just saying 20k is a lot of money to spend to go and get the hell kicked out of you. Said it multiple times it’s just my opinion, I’m sure he was asked and I am sure he has his reasons not to go. I’m not privy to that info just like the rest of you, just playing devils advocate. 

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TalinH112 wrote:
Tog if we look at it objectively for Deegan, and I’m just using my own opinion here, but there’s not much chance for America to win...

Tog if we look at it objectively for Deegan, and I’m just using my own opinion here, but there’s not much chance for America to win this year. Why waste the money when he will most certainly have another chance to go next year with a healthy Tomac (given he does outdoors and wants to go out with the trifecta) and a KTM mounted Sexton with no front end wash issues? Just a thought but I would want to go (not that I will ever be invited 😂) when America stood a solid chance to win the event! 

TAUTOG wrote:
"Waste of money" GTFO You are not guaranteed you will have the chance again next year or any year.  Even if the team doesn't win YOU...

"Waste of money"

GTFO

You are not guaranteed you will have the chance again next year or any year. 

Even if the team doesn't win YOU could win MX2. 

And if you wanna talk YouTube going to France and racing and filming one of the biggest races of year wouldn't get clicks? And also more  people interested in the event this year and going forward idk what to tell you

Thank you.  That talin dude got his head up his ass.  So why would any other country outside the top few even participate? They’re not going...

Thank you.  That talin dude got his head up his ass.  So why would any other country outside the top few even participate? They’re not going to win so why freaking go. That Jamaican bobsled team didn’t have a chance to win… 

Also not the first time I’ve been accused of having my head up my ass haha 

9/7/2023 5:45pm
TAUTOG wrote:
"Waste of money" GTFO You are not guaranteed you will have the chance again next year or any year.  Even if the team doesn't win YOU...

"Waste of money"

GTFO

You are not guaranteed you will have the chance again next year or any year. 

Even if the team doesn't win YOU could win MX2. 

And if you wanna talk YouTube going to France and racing and filming one of the biggest races of year wouldn't get clicks? And also more  people interested in the event this year and going forward idk what to tell you

Thank you.  That talin dude got his head up his ass.  So why would any other country outside the top few even participate? They’re not going...

Thank you.  That talin dude got his head up his ass.  So why would any other country outside the top few even participate? They’re not going to win so why freaking go. That Jamaican bobsled team didn’t have a chance to win… 

TalinH112 wrote:
I’m just saying 20k is a lot of money to spend to go and get the hell kicked out of you. Said it multiple times it’s...

I’m just saying 20k is a lot of money to spend to go and get the hell kicked out of you. Said it multiple times it’s just my opinion, I’m sure he was asked and I am sure he has his reasons not to go. I’m not privy to that info just like the rest of you, just playing devils advocate. 

You’re right.  That team wouldn’t have any chance in hell of winning or getting a podium.  You seem so sure it would be such an ass kicking embarrassment.  

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Thank you.  That talin dude got his head up his ass.  So why would any other country outside the top few even participate? They’re not going...

Thank you.  That talin dude got his head up his ass.  So why would any other country outside the top few even participate? They’re not going to win so why freaking go. That Jamaican bobsled team didn’t have a chance to win… 

TalinH112 wrote:
I’m just saying 20k is a lot of money to spend to go and get the hell kicked out of you. Said it multiple times it’s...

I’m just saying 20k is a lot of money to spend to go and get the hell kicked out of you. Said it multiple times it’s just my opinion, I’m sure he was asked and I am sure he has his reasons not to go. I’m not privy to that info just like the rest of you, just playing devils advocate. 

You’re right.  That team wouldn’t have any chance in hell of winning or getting a podium.  You seem so sure it would be such an ass...

You’re right.  That team wouldn’t have any chance in hell of winning or getting a podium.  You seem so sure it would be such an ass kicking embarrassment.  

Ok, well after this years race is concluded we will reconvene and if I’m wrong I will bow at the feet of your all encompassing knowledge and foresight. 😂🤙🏻 But… the way I see this years racing shaping up it would be difficult for USA to podium. There are some very strong teams this year and we don’t have the manpower currently to compete to our potential. 

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Meanwhile at Ernée

 

 

Dude is hauling the mail!

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Meanwhile at Ernée

 

 

Wasn’t there some controversy in 2015 with team France being given a lot of track time? I may be mistaken though but I thought there was drama about that. 

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TK40_FC wrote:
He has said before that Eli told him one year he went,  it cost him 20k of his own money.  I'm sure he's just using that...

He has said before that Eli told him one year he went,  it cost him 20k of his own money.  I'm sure he's just using that as a baseline for what kind of expense the riders who attend could face.  

If you listen to what Mathes said carefully it sounds more like Eli was referring to air tickets he bought for family & friends to go. So more like an optional expense.    

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My guess is Plessinger, Hampshire, Barcia.

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If you listen to what Mathes said carefully it sounds more like Eli was referring to air tickets he bought for family & friends to go...

If you listen to what Mathes said carefully it sounds more like Eli was referring to air tickets he bought for family & friends to go. So more like an optional expense.    

Yea.... 1x business class flight + 5 nights of a good hotel + 6 days of rental... Doesn't = 20k

But if you splurge for all your family, friends, goggle guy, boot cleaner etc it quickly adds up

Yes, you're probably looking at 5k, and it's easy for us to spend that money for the riders... But this is what I alluded to earlier... If riders put it in their contracts that they wanted to race MXDN, or got a bonus for being picked. It'd be the same as any other race, where they had to spend money to get there...

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My guess is Plessinger, Hampshire, Barcia.

Replace barcia with vohland

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TalinH112 wrote:
Tog if we look at it objectively for Deegan, and I’m just using my own opinion here, but there’s not much chance for America to win...

Tog if we look at it objectively for Deegan, and I’m just using my own opinion here, but there’s not much chance for America to win this year. Why waste the money when he will most certainly have another chance to go next year with a healthy Tomac (given he does outdoors and wants to go out with the trifecta) and a KTM mounted Sexton with no front end wash issues? Just a thought but I would want to go (not that I will ever be invited 😂) when America stood a solid chance to win the event! 

CPR wrote:

So only go when you can win???

TalinH112 wrote:
If you have to front 20k of your own money then yes. Deegan doesn’t make his money off Star racing Yamaha, he makes it off YouTube...

If you have to front 20k of your own money then yes. Deegan doesn’t make his money off Star racing Yamaha, he makes it off YouTube. No one wants to watch The Deegans- “The time we got our ass kicked in France!” They wanna watch the Deegans- “The time we kicked everyone’s ass in XYZ!” Again just my opinion but I happen to think it’s a pretty good one. 😂🤙🏻

That is weak as fuck . Deegan is chicken shit . End of .

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CPR wrote:

So only go when you can win???

TalinH112 wrote:
If you have to front 20k of your own money then yes. Deegan doesn’t make his money off Star racing Yamaha, he makes it off YouTube...

If you have to front 20k of your own money then yes. Deegan doesn’t make his money off Star racing Yamaha, he makes it off YouTube. No one wants to watch The Deegans- “The time we got our ass kicked in France!” They wanna watch the Deegans- “The time we kicked everyone’s ass in XYZ!” Again just my opinion but I happen to think it’s a pretty good one. 😂🤙🏻

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That is weak as fuck . Deegan is chicken shit . End of .

Why isnt roczen racing mxon? 

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Has Dungey been riding lately? This is all just hard to fathom....

I don't really believe the stories about teams preventing guys from going, but if that is the case then the guys who would go if not for their team need to blast that out for the world to hear. Shame can be a great motivator. 

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TalinH112 wrote:
If you have to front 20k of your own money then yes. Deegan doesn’t make his money off Star racing Yamaha, he makes it off YouTube...

If you have to front 20k of your own money then yes. Deegan doesn’t make his money off Star racing Yamaha, he makes it off YouTube. No one wants to watch The Deegans- “The time we got our ass kicked in France!” They wanna watch the Deegans- “The time we kicked everyone’s ass in XYZ!” Again just my opinion but I happen to think it’s a pretty good one. 😂🤙🏻

eddie wrote:

That is weak as fuck . Deegan is chicken shit . End of .

mxb2 wrote:

Why isnt roczen racing mxon? 

I really don't get why it's not announced yet in the first place. And also.. as a german and Kenny fan it hurts to see. Like specially last year and now when Ken talked about all this freedom and how fun it is to travel the world and race different places. Why not MXON? Yeah because it doesn't pay 250k per race probably. I really do hope the only reason they delay the announcement is because they waited for Kenny at this point and that he might agree to race it. With Nagl, him and Längenfelder we could have a potential podium team. 

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9/7/2023 11:06pm

I'm surprised we haven't seen any pics of the brothers as kids yet. 

The team has been announced for more than 24 hours.

Someone better go and check on him. Laughing

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