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RG437 wrote:
The Team USA situation is completely farcical at this point. That a nation that has by far and away the most resources of any of the...

The Team USA situation is completely farcical at this point. That a nation that has by far and away the most resources of any of the nations competing can’t put three riders out there as defending champions is frankly embarrassing. 
 

Deegan reportedly said he’ll only go if it’s ‘a winning team’. Quite clearly Haiden, it has more chance of being ‘a winning team’ if you’re on it, and it’s pretty lame that after claiming you’re doing for The USA all summer, you’re actually not doing it at all when doing it for the USA actually matters. In turn 3 or 4 other potential Team USA candidates are also made unavailable because Star are having to cover Deegan’s ass. 
 

The whole end of the MXGP season and MXdN were rescheduled for no other reason than to accommodate the US schedule and now they can’t even pull 3 riders together with all the resources they have. What an unbelievably poor show 

64smoker wrote:
Wel said ‘Star won’t send deegan ‘ anyone who believes that is a fool , he’s scared of it damaging his reputation, not saying the teams...

Wel said ‘Star won’t send deegan ‘ anyone who believes that is a fool , he’s scared of it damaging his reputation, not saying the teams aren’t also a problem but this team has had zero problem sending riders in the past 

GrapeApe wrote:

Star wouldn't allow its riders to go in 2021. They allowed it last year because it was in the US.

That was to do with travel during covid  , nothing to do with the teams 

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9/7/2023 1:58pm
RG437 wrote:
The Team USA situation is completely farcical at this point. That a nation that has by far and away the most resources of any of the...

The Team USA situation is completely farcical at this point. That a nation that has by far and away the most resources of any of the nations competing can’t put three riders out there as defending champions is frankly embarrassing. 
 

Deegan reportedly said he’ll only go if it’s ‘a winning team’. Quite clearly Haiden, it has more chance of being ‘a winning team’ if you’re on it, and it’s pretty lame that after claiming you’re doing for The USA all summer, you’re actually not doing it at all when doing it for the USA actually matters. In turn 3 or 4 other potential Team USA candidates are also made unavailable because Star are having to cover Deegan’s ass. 
 

The whole end of the MXGP season and MXdN were rescheduled for no other reason than to accommodate the US schedule and now they can’t even pull 3 riders together with all the resources they have. What an unbelievably poor show 

DonM wrote:
Don't believe everything you hear...there was also the rumor that Star told Team France if they wanted Ferandis to go they would have to pay them...

Don't believe everything you hear...there was also the rumor that Star told Team France if they wanted Ferandis to go they would have to pay them $70K....

Is it a case of Deegan isn’t going because Star won’t let him or are they saying they aren’t supporting the event because Deegan doesn’t want to go and they’re protecting him? I guess it doesn’t really matter.

Regardless of why certain riders aren’t going, it’s crazy to me that with all the talent and resource in The US they can’t come together and find three guys to defend their title. Sure there are challenges with scheduling and such but Team USA certainly are not the only team that has to deal with issues to get to this event. 
 

I think it’s time that Team USA had a new team manager that isn’t connected to a certain manufacturer or brand. It confuses things and politics get in the way too often 

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ARM670 wrote:

Sorry but this is getting annoying, JUST NAME THE DAMN TEAM. Why all the secrecy?

mxb2 wrote:

2 orange bikes and a white bike

GrapeApe wrote:
Why wouldn't you just name the riders instead of the color of their bikes? I don't think whatever podcast you listen to is going to get...

Why wouldn't you just name the riders instead of the color of their bikes? I don't think whatever podcast you listen to is going to get mad. lol

 

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9/7/2023 2:02pm
64smoker wrote:
Wel said ‘Star won’t send deegan ‘ anyone who believes that is a fool , he’s scared of it damaging his reputation, not saying the teams...

Wel said ‘Star won’t send deegan ‘ anyone who believes that is a fool , he’s scared of it damaging his reputation, not saying the teams aren’t also a problem but this team has had zero problem sending riders in the past 

GrapeApe wrote:

Star wouldn't allow its riders to go in 2021. They allowed it last year because it was in the US.

64smoker wrote:

That was to do with travel during covid  , nothing to do with the teams 

No it was because they were relocating to Florida. That was part of the reason the US said screw it we're not sending anyone, they couldn't find any support.

 

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mxb2 wrote:

2 orange bikes and a white bike

GrapeApe wrote:
Why wouldn't you just name the riders instead of the color of their bikes? I don't think whatever podcast you listen to is going to get...

Why wouldn't you just name the riders instead of the color of their bikes? I don't think whatever podcast you listen to is going to get mad. lol

 

mxb2 wrote:

Juck knows watsup

He must listen to the same podcast as you

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ARM670 wrote:

Sorry but this is getting annoying, JUST NAME THE DAMN TEAM. Why all the secrecy?

mxb2 wrote:

2 orange bikes and a white bike

GrapeApe wrote:
Why wouldn't you just name the riders instead of the color of their bikes? I don't think whatever podcast you listen to is going to get...

Why wouldn't you just name the riders instead of the color of their bikes? I don't think whatever podcast you listen to is going to get mad. lol

 

Info wasnt from a podcast

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9/7/2023 2:06pm Edited Date/Time 9/7/2023 2:10pm
GrapeApe wrote:

Star wouldn't allow its riders to go in 2021. They allowed it last year because it was in the US.

64smoker wrote:

That was to do with travel during covid  , nothing to do with the teams 

GrapeApe wrote:
No it was because they were relocating to Florida. That was part of the reason the US said screw it we're not sending anyone, they couldn't...

No it was because they were relocating to Florida. That was part of the reason the US said screw it we're not sending anyone, they couldn't find any support.

 

Don't give him facts....he'll just argue his conspiracy theory....He thinks that Star won't support Webb to go but will Deegan... but he saw a rumor that Deegan won't go if Sexton won't so that must be what's happening, well because it's Deegan...because he is the end all expert on Team USA......

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9/7/2023 2:12pm
Juck wrote:
I would think that Lopes, even with not racing mx in years, would be a much better pick than any of the other riders on that...

I would think that Lopes, even with not racing mx in years, would be a much better pick than any of the other riders on that team. He probably doesn't want to do it

I disagree. If he hasn't raced outdoors, he likely doesn't have the conditioning to go 30+2 x 2.

Don't forget that the MX2 and Open guys race back to back motos. 

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9/7/2023 2:19pm
64smoker wrote:
Sexton and Webb I think is understandable a lot going on with learning new bikes etc , as for deegan that’s weak , said it before...

Sexton and Webb I think is understandable a lot going on with learning new bikes etc , as for deegan that’s weak , said it before I think it’s more Brian than the kid , scared of the imagine if it doesn’t go well which is a shame for the fans especially USA , would of been cool to see 👍

DonM wrote:

Let me spell it out for you...Star will not support it...don't blame the riders

They were going to support Ferrandis, so I don't know. 

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9/7/2023 2:20pm
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If it does end up being Plessinger, Barcia and Hampshire, those guys will have great team chemistry. 

If that is the team, definitely have Hampshire get second gate pick both times. Guy can never start top ten no matter what, so might as well give the good gate to the teammate.

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9/7/2023 2:21pm
DonM wrote:

Oh here we go again....please read ML's comment on Webb....or you can just continue with your conspiracy theory....

64smoker wrote:

I’m on about deegan not webb

DonM wrote:
All based on a rumor that you saw on the web....Star is not supporting the MXDN this year period....not Webb, not Deegan , not Kitchen etc...that...

All based on a rumor that you saw on the web....Star is not supporting the MXDN this year period....not Webb, not Deegan , not Kitchen etc...that will all be clear when the team is announced and you will see all Star riders have been passed by for riders that finished behind them...

Where has this been said? ML only said Star said no to Webb.

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64smoker wrote:
Sexton and Webb I think is understandable a lot going on with learning new bikes etc , as for deegan that’s weak , said it before...

Sexton and Webb I think is understandable a lot going on with learning new bikes etc , as for deegan that’s weak , said it before I think it’s more Brian than the kid , scared of the imagine if it doesn’t go well which is a shame for the fans especially USA , would of been cool to see 👍

DonM wrote:

Let me spell it out for you...Star will not support it...don't blame the riders

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They were going to support Ferrandis, so I don't know. 

They were also going to charge France for it...

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9/7/2023 2:22pm
mxb2 wrote:

2 orange bikes and a white bike

GrapeApe wrote:
Why wouldn't you just name the riders instead of the color of their bikes? I don't think whatever podcast you listen to is going to get...

Why wouldn't you just name the riders instead of the color of their bikes? I don't think whatever podcast you listen to is going to get mad. lol

 

mxb2 wrote:

Info wasnt from a podcast

Regardless the I know but won't tell is pretty tired . Spill it or don't say anything.  No one is impressed by your "insider" status .

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It’s shameful honestly 

No matter which way the cookie crumbles it’s embarrassing. Once the announcement comes I guess I’ll decide if I’m taking a “Fuck Jensen Hendler” or “Fuck Haiden Deegan” stance. Not like my opinion matters, but as a fan that really stings.

Hopefully we kill it with the “B Team” and kudos to all that are willing to make it happen.

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9/7/2023 2:29pm Edited Date/Time 9/7/2023 2:34pm
DonM wrote:

Let me spell it out for you...Star will not support it...don't blame the riders

-MAVERICK- wrote:

They were going to support Ferrandis, so I don't know. 

DonM wrote:

They were also going to charge France for it...

hasnt there been a star rider from the US in the last handful of MXDNs (when the US sent a team obviously)?

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9/7/2023 2:32pm
GrapeApe wrote:
Why wouldn't you just name the riders instead of the color of their bikes? I don't think whatever podcast you listen to is going to get...

Why wouldn't you just name the riders instead of the color of their bikes? I don't think whatever podcast you listen to is going to get mad. lol

 

mxb2 wrote:

Info wasnt from a podcast

ATKpilot99 wrote:

Regardless the I know but won't tell is pretty tired . Spill it or don't say anything.  No one is impressed by your "insider" status .

Exactly. If you want support name the team, so tired of the secrecy. What is this 5th grade? 

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mxb2 wrote:

Info wasnt from a podcast

ATKpilot99 wrote:

Regardless the I know but won't tell is pretty tired . Spill it or don't say anything.  No one is impressed by your "insider" status .

ARM670 wrote:

Exactly. If you want support name the team, so tired of the secrecy. What is this 5th grade? 

I responded after juck did. Scroll up.  

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DonM wrote:

Let me spell it out for you...Star will not support it...don't blame the riders

-MAVERICK- wrote:

They were going to support Ferrandis, so I don't know. 

DonM wrote:

They were also going to charge France for it...

You said in earlier post this was a rumor? Which is it truth, or rumor? And if truth print link so it can be known. Same as Star won't support any riders, because they sure seemed all in with Justin Cooper until the date changed.

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-MAVERICK- wrote:

They were going to support Ferrandis, so I don't know. 

DonM wrote:

They were also going to charge France for it...

hasnt there been a star rider from the US in the last handful of MXDNs (when the US sent a team obviously)?

2017-no, 2018-yes AP at Red Bud, 2019-no, 2020-no team, 2021-no, 2022-yes J Coop Red Bud, 2023-no

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9/7/2023 2:46pm Edited Date/Time 9/7/2023 2:47pm
DonM wrote:

Let me spell it out for you...Star will not support it...don't blame the riders

-MAVERICK- wrote:

They were going to support Ferrandis, so I don't know. 

DonM wrote:

They were also going to charge France for it...

Yeah, like $70k was the rumor...  Sure sounds like Star and Kawasaki USA simply said no although maybe the negotiations with Star went on a while with Roger and AMA??

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9/7/2023 2:48pm

Next person to pull out of team USA will be Ron Jeremy. I bet he could raise it for USA.

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-MAVERICK- wrote:

They were going to support Ferrandis, so I don't know. 

DonM wrote:

They were also going to charge France for it...

ARM670 wrote:
You said in earlier post this was a rumor? Which is it truth, or rumor? And if truth print link so it can be known. Same...

You said in earlier post this was a rumor? Which is it truth, or rumor? And if truth print link so it can be known. Same as Star won't support any riders, because they sure seemed all in with Justin Cooper until the date changed.

Plans change, shit happens. 

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-MAVERICK- wrote:

They were going to support Ferrandis, so I don't know. 

DonM wrote:

They were also going to charge France for it...

ARM670 wrote:
You said in earlier post this was a rumor? Which is it truth, or rumor? And if truth print link so it can be known. Same...

You said in earlier post this was a rumor? Which is it truth, or rumor? And if truth print link so it can be known. Same as Star won't support any riders, because they sure seemed all in with Justin Cooper until the date changed.

Were they with Cooper? so we can use the rumor on Deegan but not on Ferrandis? I'm not convinced they were in support of Dylan because it never got to that point. Honestly does it really make sense that a team will support one rider selected to the team but not the other? 

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9/7/2023 2:52pm
DonM wrote:

2017-no, 2018-yes AP at Red Bud, 2019-no, 2020-no team, 2021-no, 2022-yes J Coop Red Bud, 2023-no

2019-j.cooper 2022-tomac+Cooper

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DonM wrote:

2017-no, 2018-yes AP at Red Bud, 2019-no, 2020-no team, 2021-no, 2022-yes J Coop Red Bud, 2023-no

dfr136 wrote:

2019-j.cooper 2022-tomac+Cooper

Correct on 2019 2022 was Red Bud but they have been in and out over the years outside of Red Bud, but just because they did doesn't mean they do now....

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9/7/2023 3:04pm
DonM wrote:

2017-no, 2018-yes AP at Red Bud, 2019-no, 2020-no team, 2021-no, 2022-yes J Coop Red Bud, 2023-no

dfr136 wrote:

2019-j.cooper 2022-tomac+Cooper

DonM wrote:
Correct on 2019 2022 was Red Bud but they have been in and out over the years outside of Red Bud, but just because they did...

Correct on 2019 2022 was Red Bud but they have been in and out over the years outside of Red Bud, but just because they did doesn't mean they do now....

You mean to tell me if Deegan said to the team. Guys I really wanna race this race.  They’re gonna turn him down and say no?? Their next possible future champion.  GTFO.  

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dfr136 wrote:

2019-j.cooper 2022-tomac+Cooper

DonM wrote:
Correct on 2019 2022 was Red Bud but they have been in and out over the years outside of Red Bud, but just because they did...

Correct on 2019 2022 was Red Bud but they have been in and out over the years outside of Red Bud, but just because they did doesn't mean they do now....

You mean to tell me if Deegan said to the team. Guys I really wanna race this race.  They’re gonna turn him down and say no...

You mean to tell me if Deegan said to the team. Guys I really wanna race this race.  They’re gonna turn him down and say no?? Their next possible future champion.  GTFO.  

Yep….how many times did Kawi do it to Tomac over the years…like I said in an earlier post I think its bullshit that the teams are doing this but it is what it is…

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9/7/2023 3:36pm

Plessinger MX1, Vohland MX2 and Hampshire Open. Interesting team. I can’t wait to see how they do. 

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agn5008 wrote:

Plessinger MX1, Vohland MX2 and Hampshire Open. Interesting team. I can’t wait to see how they do. 

Where'd you see that?

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agn5008 wrote:

Plessinger MX1, Vohland MX2 and Hampshire Open. Interesting team. I can’t wait to see how they do. 

If this is the Team Ill cheer for them 💯, Id say a long shot for 4th. 

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