Will Jett change riding styles like JS7 did?

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Tag680 8/29/2023 1:02pm
8/29/2023 1:02pm Edited Date/Time 8/29/2023 1:05pm

Jett is definitely a game-changer, in terms of forcing other riders to go back to the basics and smooth out to get faster. For us old timers that have been into MX since the '70s, Jett is reminiscent of a style and approach that we have not seen very much of in a long while, with the exception of Dungey and K-ROC. RC and JS7 have been the dominate templates for well over the last 20 years, which amounts to raw aggression, risk, and fitness above all else. There is an entire generation of balls-out super fast riders now that make our jaws drop at the sight of their speed. However their style, relative to Jett, Sexton, and K-ROC, can be uncomfortable to watch - riding that often looks super sketchy and on the edge. We all get that that's part of the excitement, but no one wants to see those guys wad it up and add to the long list of mid-season injuries. 

What I'm seeing with Jett this year is the fully realized potential of what so many smooth and technically brilliant riders before him pursued. We are seeing what Ron Lechien would have been capable of, had he possessed the work ethic of Johnny O'mara. Or David Bailey, had fate allowed him to peak in the late '80s. Or JMB had he not decided to leave MX for road racing. Or perhaps McGrath, had his passion been equally hot for both SX and MX. Or Everts ... well, what can we say about that?! Or Kevin Windham, had he found that mental edge he needed to consistently overcome RC. If you've been around for a while, perhaps you are marveling at just how well Jett has taken all the pieces and put them together like no one has done quite as well before him. Time will tell where this goes. I'm really looking forward to the next era in this sport.    

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sclark309d 8/29/2023 1:06pm
8/29/2023 1:06pm
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I'm sure guys will adapt and adopt things as they can from Jett, but it's not going to be as visually obvious as the stuff Stew...

I'm sure guys will adapt and adopt things as they can from Jett, but it's not going to be as visually obvious as the stuff Stew was doing.

Jett isn't really doing anything new or unique, he's just doing what he does at an insane level. Guys can try standing up through the turns but it won't make them Jett.

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Yeah, DV was breaking down on the Pulp show how Jett uses his brakes less and this allows the suspension to work better. I expect to...

Yeah, DV was breaking down on the Pulp show how Jett uses his brakes less and this allows the suspension to work better. I expect to see guys adopt more of these techniques. You're right, it's not as visually obvious as the way JS7 changed things. But Jett also doesn't have the spectacular crashes.

when I started racing in the early 70s, the Euros were point and shoot, ie hard on the gas, hard on the brakes, turn, hard on the gas, wash, rinse, repeat.

I see Jett with his flow and momentum, and have tried, Lord how I've tried - just can't figure it out.

It's been a pleasure to watch the evolution of technique over the years

 

sclark309d 8/29/2023 1:09pm
8/29/2023 1:09pm
studworx wrote:
Where’d he say he studied Everts???   either way, nothing he does is new. He actually sits more than Everts. Sexton and Jett have almost identical...

Where’d he say he studied Everts???

 

either way, nothing he does is new. He actually sits more than Everts. Sexton and Jett have almost identical styles. Sexton bit more over the front. 

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The main thing is see between the two is lines.  Jett is exiting ruts early,  cutting in,  crossing over,  expending less energy.  I dont know where...

The main thing is see between the two is lines.  Jett is exiting ruts early,  cutting in,  crossing over,  expending less energy.  I dont know where he gets the traction sometimes but that is the main difference to me.  I also think jett is stupid mentally strong.  Chase of course samples the dirt too much.

Seems like every race I find myself mumbling "how did he get out of that damned rut so early?"

I guess if I knew things like that I'd be winning races - lol

 

Chris_Buehler 8/29/2023 1:42pm
8/29/2023 1:42pm
Tag680 wrote:
Jett is definitely a game-changer, in terms of forcing other riders to go back to the basics and smooth out to get faster. For us old...

Jett is definitely a game-changer, in terms of forcing other riders to go back to the basics and smooth out to get faster. For us old timers that have been into MX since the '70s, Jett is reminiscent of a style and approach that we have not seen very much of in a long while, with the exception of Dungey and K-ROC. RC and JS7 have been the dominate templates for well over the last 20 years, which amounts to raw aggression, risk, and fitness above all else. There is an entire generation of balls-out super fast riders now that make our jaws drop at the sight of their speed. However their style, relative to Jett, Sexton, and K-ROC, can be uncomfortable to watch - riding that often looks super sketchy and on the edge. We all get that that's part of the excitement, but no one wants to see those guys wad it up and add to the long list of mid-season injuries. 

What I'm seeing with Jett this year is the fully realized potential of what so many smooth and technically brilliant riders before him pursued. We are seeing what Ron Lechien would have been capable of, had he possessed the work ethic of Johnny O'mara. Or David Bailey, had fate allowed him to peak in the late '80s. Or JMB had he not decided to leave MX for road racing. Or perhaps McGrath, had his passion been equally hot for both SX and MX. Or Everts ... well, what can we say about that?! Or Kevin Windham, had he found that mental edge he needed to consistently overcome RC. If you've been around for a while, perhaps you are marveling at just how well Jett has taken all the pieces and put them together like no one has done quite as well before him. Time will tell where this goes. I'm really looking forward to the next era in this sport.    

Disagree about JS7

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burn1986 8/29/2023 2:49pm
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Moto Nomad wrote:
With this level of domination, riders must really be scratching their heads. Jett said that he studied with Stefan Everts and his riding style is very...

With this level of domination, riders must really be scratching their heads. Jett said that he studied with Stefan Everts and his riding style is very similar. He stands through all the turns. I have seen it up close and there is a huge difference to the way he goes through turns. I'm wondering if other riders will be studying his style and we might see some changes to the way the other guys do things?

You mean from his Barcia style in SX?

 

 

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tylerpennell 8/29/2023 7:31pm
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i wonder how the soft setup will fair in supercross if he runs it that way. look what happened to roczen..

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ando 8/29/2023 7:49pm
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The big question will be how is he in the whoops.  All the great SX riders, that is what differentiates them.

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decano51 8/29/2023 7:51pm
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ando wrote:

The big question will be how is he in the whoops.  All the great SX riders, that is what differentiates them.

he passed Craig in the whoops many times in the 250's.. id probably say its his strength.

supercuss 8/29/2023 7:52pm
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dirtbikeguy01 wrote:

Jett isn’t doing anything new… he has just mastered what the greats have already implemented all in one.

So mastering what the greats have done, all in one, isn't new?

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The corner where Dylan crashed in moto 2 had a little double inside that riders jumped over. Jett was better doing that simple little jump than anybody. He land perfectly on every jumps.  His has a very light and straight riding style with a huge intensity that doesn't really shows because he is smooth. Jett has a very high IQ and the perfect weight and size ratio. like always Jett will inspire kids as James did and one of those kids will beat him in the future.  

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ando 8/29/2023 9:43pm
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ando wrote:

The big question will be how is he in the whoops.  All the great SX riders, that is what differentiates them.

decano51 wrote:

he passed Craig in the whoops many times in the 250's.. id probably say its his strength.

Cool.  Haven’t seen him ride SX much.

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RetroDawgWalk 8/30/2023 9:19am
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RetroDawgWalk wrote:

The silly garbage you guys get on here and ask is concerning… 

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I've been riding and following this sport for 40+ years. You don't like the question, piss off and go do something else. If you don't think...

I've been riding and following this sport for 40+ years. You don't like the question, piss off and go do something else.

If you don't think these guys aren't studying what Jett is doing and trying to apply it after he won 22 straight motos, you're a freaking idiot. What do you think he's doing, just twisting the throttle a bit more? He has combined several techniques to achieve maximum smoothness. The fastest riders in the world getting paid millions and millions of dollars can't even touch this guy.

For those asking, Jett stated in a press conference he had been working with or studying Everts in the past. You can see the similarities.

And you don't win 22 straight without doing something new. If you think he's just riding a bit faster than everyone, you don't know shit about motocross. DV broke it down pretty well on Pulp. If you have nothing to offer regarding the topic, why not just keep your mouth shut?

That is a lot of assuming you did there lol. Jett is good but what I was implying is why grown men sit and worry about it and start forums over it? Let’s quit pretending that Jett did what he did against a stacked field all year long. He’s good but I’m not ready to act like he is the greatest thing ever like everyone else. 

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Moto Nomad 8/30/2023 9:25am
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RetroDawgWalk wrote:

The silly garbage you guys get on here and ask is concerning… 

Moto Nomad wrote:
I've been riding and following this sport for 40+ years. You don't like the question, piss off and go do something else. If you don't think...

I've been riding and following this sport for 40+ years. You don't like the question, piss off and go do something else.

If you don't think these guys aren't studying what Jett is doing and trying to apply it after he won 22 straight motos, you're a freaking idiot. What do you think he's doing, just twisting the throttle a bit more? He has combined several techniques to achieve maximum smoothness. The fastest riders in the world getting paid millions and millions of dollars can't even touch this guy.

For those asking, Jett stated in a press conference he had been working with or studying Everts in the past. You can see the similarities.

And you don't win 22 straight without doing something new. If you think he's just riding a bit faster than everyone, you don't know shit about motocross. DV broke it down pretty well on Pulp. If you have nothing to offer regarding the topic, why not just keep your mouth shut?

RetroDawgWalk wrote:
That is a lot of assuming you did there lol. Jett is good but what I was implying is why grown men sit and worry about...

That is a lot of assuming you did there lol. Jett is good but what I was implying is why grown men sit and worry about it and start forums over it? Let’s quit pretending that Jett did what he did against a stacked field all year long. He’s good but I’m not ready to act like he is the greatest thing ever like everyone else. 

Maybe I was on my period when I responded yesterday but I fail to see what is wrong with discussing how a guy that completely dominated the (depleted) field for 22 straight motos did so, and what he is doing differently. It seems like exactly the type of thing you would discuss on a motocross forum. And I was happy to see some intelligent replies above that actually had something constructive to add to the conversation. Carry on...

Chris_Buehler 8/30/2023 10:24am
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Reed was on Bubbas podcast and they were breaking down Jett. Chad seemed most impressed with how smart he rides and his racecraft. 

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Chris_Buehler wrote:

Reed was on Bubbas podcast and they were breaking down Jett. Chad seemed most impressed with how smart he rides and his racecraft. 

I’ve been listening to his podcast all season and I don’t mind it, but that was definitely the best episode he’s done.  Well worth the listen with Stewart and Reed together.

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As long as we can keep these younger riders from trying to ride like Barcia, revving the piss out of their bikes and pissing off their...

As long as we can keep these younger riders from trying to ride like Barcia, revving the piss out of their bikes and pissing off their dads, I'm all for it.

We need people like Barcia for the sport

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IWreckALot 8/30/2023 12:58pm
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decano51 wrote:
When in Europe Jett was training with the Everts Family. Then went across to Roczens family. Two people who had a large impact on his riding...

When in Europe Jett was training with the Everts Family. Then went across to Roczens family. Two people who had a large impact on his riding style. He didn't studdy Everts.. Stephen Everts dad coached him and Liam together. 

Liam Everts and Jett are still good friends 

And there were guys on Vital calling Jett a choke artist. His consistency is beyond impressive. Watching the qualifying and you'd see Sexton at the top with Jett like a tenth behind and all of a sudden Jett finds a full second on the track. That had to have been a bit demoralizing to Sexton when it happened. 

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devindavisphoto 8/30/2023 4:33pm
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devindavisphoto wrote:
As long as we can keep these younger riders from trying to ride like Barcia, revving the piss out of their bikes and pissing off their...

As long as we can keep these younger riders from trying to ride like Barcia, revving the piss out of their bikes and pissing off their dads, I'm all for it.

Raikzz wrote:

We need people like Barcia for the sport

You missed the point.

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