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8/19/2023 12:09pm

For as much as theyve been talking about a track thats hard to pass on, that was a great race with alot of passing. Prep guys nailed it in my opinion. 

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8/19/2023 12:10pm
Hcallz5 wrote:

Did Rick just say Adam Plessinger? He has to be fucking with us LOL

avidchimp wrote:
He did. 

He did. Laughing

it is Adam Plessinger.

the other is Aaron Ciancarulo.

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8/19/2023 12:11pm
FerCzD wrote:
That is his fault as a rider.  Honda has Jett's bike working perfectly, so their mechanics and engineers are not the problem. It is rider input...

That is his fault as a rider. 

Honda has Jett's bike working perfectly, so their mechanics and engineers are not the problem. It is rider input on how he wants the bike for the team to accommodate. And that is why moving to KTM won't change a thing .

 

eh, I have a feeling it will too. 

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8/19/2023 12:13pm
Hcallz5 wrote:

Did Rick just say Adam Plessinger? He has to be fucking with us LOL

At least it wasn’t Hunter Plessinger 🤣

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8/19/2023 12:13pm
Hcallz5 wrote:

Did Rick just say Adam Plessinger? He has to be fucking with us LOL

He said Hunter Deegan earlier lol

8/19/2023 12:13pm
The other racers need to lay back for the remainder of these motos, there’s no reason to “try” and jack up his perfect season with it...

The other racers need to lay back for the remainder of these motos, there’s no reason to “try” and jack up his perfect season with it being this close.

And let him gain more confidence to keep beating you next season? If I'm Ferrandis or Sexton I'm doing all I can to beat him in the remaining 3 motos. The longer this goes one the harder it's going to be to beat him

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8/19/2023 12:13pm
Hcallz5 wrote:

Did Rick just say Adam Plessinger? He has to be fucking with us LOL

avidchimp wrote:
He did. 

He did. Laughing

it is Adam Plessinger.

the other is Aaron Ciancarulo.

Hunter deegan.

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8/19/2023 12:13pm
The other racers need to lay back for the remainder of these motos, there’s no reason to “try” and jack up his perfect season with it...

The other racers need to lay back for the remainder of these motos, there’s no reason to “try” and jack up his perfect season with it being this close.

Pinch...that ain't gonna happen.  Every rider out there would love to dust Jett.  I just hope they don't get hurt trying.

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8/19/2023 12:15pm
The other racers need to lay back for the remainder of these motos, there’s no reason to “try” and jack up his perfect season with it...

The other racers need to lay back for the remainder of these motos, there’s no reason to “try” and jack up his perfect season with it being this close.

plowboy wrote:
...that ain't gonna happen.  Every rider out there would love to dust Jett.  I just hope they don't get hurt trying.

Pinch...that ain't gonna happen.  Every rider out there would love to dust Jett.  I just hope they don't get hurt trying.

Yep, I’m not sure there are many if any that would let jet take over 1st place instead of being the only guy to beat Jett Lawrence in 2023.

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8/19/2023 12:16pm
Magoofan wrote:

Deegan f***king ROBBED by that restart.

What a bunch of shit.

 

plowboy wrote:

He wasn't the only one but...it's not like the ink was still drying on the rule.  It was the same for everyone.

I tried to find the rule that you're referencing, but only found this:

"b. Should a race be stopped after one (1) full lap is complete, the race will be restarted using the 
original staging positions for that moto. If a race is stopped after two (2) full laps are complete, 
the riders will be staged based on their positions the lap prior to the red flag. The restart will 
resume for the time remaining of the 30-minute race. The restart will take place as soon as 
possible and within a maximum time of 10 minutes, providing track conditions allow."

Do you know where I can find the rule calling for a gate drop in this scenario?

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8/19/2023 12:16pm
FerCzD wrote:
That is his fault as a rider.  Honda has Jett's bike working perfectly, so their mechanics and engineers are not the problem. It is rider input...

That is his fault as a rider. 

Honda has Jett's bike working perfectly, so their mechanics and engineers are not the problem. It is rider input on how he wants the bike for the team to accommodate. And that is why moving to KTM won't change a thing .

 

eh, I have a feeling it will too. 

Ricky said it more than once during the broadcast...the rider must take advantage of the bikes plusses and find a way to manage it's shortcomings.  

I know this and I'm slow as molasses in January.

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8/19/2023 12:16pm

Talking on how it’s Deegan’s own fault. 
Theh must have been reading these comments. 

8/19/2023 12:17pm

What a awesome 450 moto. Jett winning from a shitish start for a change and Anderson's ride was damn impressive.

Bring on the next motos...

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8/19/2023 12:19pm

Let’s go Cooper!!! 

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8/19/2023 12:19pm
Magoofan wrote:

Deegan f***king ROBBED by that restart.

What a bunch of shit.

 

plowboy wrote:

He wasn't the only one but...it's not like the ink was still drying on the rule.  It was the same for everyone.

HunterE38 wrote:
I tried to find the rule that you're referencing, but only found this: "b. Should a race be stopped after one (1) full lap is complete...

I tried to find the rule that you're referencing, but only found this:

"b. Should a race be stopped after one (1) full lap is complete, the race will be restarted using the 
original staging positions for that moto. If a race is stopped after two (2) full laps are complete, 
the riders will be staged based on their positions the lap prior to the red flag. The restart will 
resume for the time remaining of the 30-minute race. The restart will take place as soon as 
possible and within a maximum time of 10 minutes, providing track conditions allow."

Do you know where I can find the rule calling for a gate drop in this scenario?

No sir...I do not but always understood there was a "lap or time limit" that decided gate drop or single file restart.  Someone here knows the exact rule...I'm sure.

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8/19/2023 12:21pm

Ouch...red X jump penalty.

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8/19/2023 12:22pm
plowboy wrote:

He wasn't the only one but...it's not like the ink was still drying on the rule.  It was the same for everyone.

HunterE38 wrote:
I tried to find the rule that you're referencing, but only found this: "b. Should a race be stopped after one (1) full lap is complete...

I tried to find the rule that you're referencing, but only found this:

"b. Should a race be stopped after one (1) full lap is complete, the race will be restarted using the 
original staging positions for that moto. If a race is stopped after two (2) full laps are complete, 
the riders will be staged based on their positions the lap prior to the red flag. The restart will 
resume for the time remaining of the 30-minute race. The restart will take place as soon as 
possible and within a maximum time of 10 minutes, providing track conditions allow."

Do you know where I can find the rule calling for a gate drop in this scenario?

plowboy wrote:
No sir...I do not but always understood there was a "lap or time limit" that decided gate drop or single file restart.  Someone here knows the...

No sir...I do not but always understood there was a "lap or time limit" that decided gate drop or single file restart.  Someone here knows the exact rule...I'm sure.

I quoted the rule from the rulebook. So I guess I just don't understand your comment about it being an inked rule instead of something they did at their own discretion which seems to be the case.

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8/19/2023 12:22pm

And with this trend, I'm seriously worried about CS23 well being next SX season. Motocross is more forgiving and he finds himself in the dirt every race.

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8/19/2023 12:23pm Edited Date/Time 8/19/2023 12:24pm
plowboy wrote:

Ouch...red X jump penalty.

Of course that flag was out but how is the flagger waving it? Along the ground (for birds to see) and not up and down… whatever..

 

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8/19/2023 12:24pm

I have never taken advantage of the Veterans Hospitality tent.  Never wanted to take a seat from a disabled vet.  It's a cool deal though.  Cool

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8/19/2023 12:24pm

Gahlee, what’s the over under on is Chase Sexton gonna loose control of his Honduh. 

8/19/2023 12:25pm

Budds have something against a rough track? Every break in action they touch it up. I thought these guys were the best in the world? They can handle a rough track

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8/19/2023 12:27pm
HunterE38 wrote:
I quoted the rule from the rulebook. So I guess I just don't understand your comment about it being an inked rule instead of something they...

I quoted the rule from the rulebook. So I guess I just don't understand your comment about it being an inked rule instead of something they did at their own discretion which seems to be the case.

There's a HUGE chance I'm wrong but there is a rule that specifies at what point/time they use gate vs single file restart.  Hopefully they followed their rules.

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8/19/2023 12:28pm
FerCzD wrote:
That is his fault as a rider.  Honda has Jett's bike working perfectly, so their mechanics and engineers are not the problem. It is rider input...

That is his fault as a rider. 

Honda has Jett's bike working perfectly, so their mechanics and engineers are not the problem. It is rider input on how he wants the bike for the team to accommodate. And that is why moving to KTM won't change a thing .

 

eh, I have a feeling it will too. 

plowboy wrote:
Ricky said it more than once during the broadcast...the rider must take advantage of the bikes plusses and find a way to manage it's shortcomings.   I...

Ricky said it more than once during the broadcast...the rider must take advantage of the bikes plusses and find a way to manage it's shortcomings.  

I know this and I'm slow as molasses in January.

RC could have won on a shopping kart . He has a different perspective.  That said I don't think the bike matters in this situation.  Jett is just that much better. 

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-MAVERICK- wrote:

Wright down. 

Sparling wrote:

Must have went down hard too, damn he was riding super well

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Could be a mechanical. Hopefully he's alright. 

It was a mechanical. Most likely done for the day. 

Maybe HRC can get it sorted. 

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RC has been brutal in the booth today. 

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8/19/2023 12:31pm
Budds have something against a rough track? Every break in action they touch it up. I thought these guys were the best in the world? They...

Budds have something against a rough track? Every break in action they touch it up. I thought these guys were the best in the world? They can handle a rough track

Have you been to Budds?  Go there and you will understand.  The dirt and layout are truly different. They mostly try to clean up the super high speed stuff.  Don't need any horrific crashes on TV.Blush

8/19/2023 12:32pm
Sparling wrote:

Must have went down hard too, damn he was riding super well

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Could be a mechanical. Hopefully he's alright. 

-MAVERICK- wrote:

It was a mechanical. Most likely done for the day. 

Maybe HRC can get it sorted. 

Damn it let’s hope he can do moto 2

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8/19/2023 12:33pm

Untucked jersey? Deegan setting trends.

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eh, I have a feeling it will too. 

plowboy wrote:
Ricky said it more than once during the broadcast...the rider must take advantage of the bikes plusses and find a way to manage it's shortcomings.   I...

Ricky said it more than once during the broadcast...the rider must take advantage of the bikes plusses and find a way to manage it's shortcomings.  

I know this and I'm slow as molasses in January.

ATKpilot99 wrote:
RC could have won on a shopping kart . He has a different perspective.  That said I don't think the bike matters in this situation.  Jett...

RC could have won on a shopping kart . He has a different perspective.  That said I don't think the bike matters in this situation.  Jett is just that much better. 

I'll jump out front and say Jett is even better than RC.  Time will tell but I believe RC would agree.

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