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It seems the judge that was “drawn” to try this case used to work with…
Hunter Biden!
And has been giving harsher sentences than asked for to anyone on trial from J6.
Manny’s tag line would fit well here.
Man…MSNBC needs to change its name to TNN (“Trump News Network”), 99% of articles on the top of their website are about Trump…any mention of Hunter? Nope…is there any other news going on in this country? Nothing worth a mention in their headlines….pretty pathetic actually…who follows their garbage? Anyone here want to fess up that you think it’s reliable news?
Ignore the media spin, read the indictment yourself...
https://www.nwprogressive.org/weblog/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/AUG23-Trump-Indictment.pdf
I don't get how anyone can still defend this shyster or seriously think this is all just a witch hunt.
Pence and even some other Repubs chose the Constitution over the man. But y'all are still putting the man (a poor excuse for a man at that) over the Constitution in blindly defending the guy.
Shit that can't be made up.
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This isn't "the left" indicting him.
Edit: have you even read the indictments? If you haven't, they are incredibly damning. Also not sure how you square the fact that Trump literally throwing his own defense out the window that he knew was being recorded on a tape for exactly what they're indicting him for. Oh I guess Trump had a tiny defense, he wasn't looking at the war plans, yet in the indictment it says Jack Smith has that document in his possession now. He didn't before which is why he entered a superseding indictment. Oh and the tape destroys Trump's state of mind defense. Like, this can't be a real comment you made if you actually read any of these documents.
And sure, civil vs legal. Either way Trump has lost that case and he also lost the 63+ other election cases. And the Supreme Court shut him down. And they shut Eastman's idea about Pence sending the electors back to the legislatures down too. Oh and he also lost special master documents case where the court above Cannon raked her over the coals for throwing Trump a bone when she had no power to do so. Also, federal prosecutors have a 95% percent conviction rate. In one of my earlier comments I detailed because this is such a special circumstance, they wouldn't ever put something in an indictment they can't prove. Trump is screwed. The only reason he got away with so much and why it looked like witch hunts is because Trump was able to keep Republicans in line by pulling/giving support and you can't indict a sitting president. Hence why Mueller said if he didn't commit any crimes he would say that. Welp, he's not president anymore. He kept documents that weren't his, lied about it, then tried to delete security footage to obstruct the investigation. And this isn't even getting into the Jan 6th indictment which I read and most of that info has been public info for years now. Trump is just screwed.
The political myopia and frantic autoerotic activities are running rampant among you boys.
That's the problem with modern wall to wall news coverage and social media. There's an argument to say the seriousness and severity of the (alleged) crimes are softened in the minds eye by the never-ending speculation over time. I agree, at times it does begin to sound like white noise and as we all know time becomes somewhat of a healer. That doesn't mean people don't still deserve to be held accountable. Jack Smith and his team have gone about these investigations quietly, methodically and without fanfare for several years and they feel they have a strong case(s). This isn't the same as the spineless, unprincipled Republicans voting to acquit Trump to save their political futures. Trump is now facing real consequences for his actions.
These investigations have spanned two or three years, partly because of resistance put up by those fighting subpoenas, refusing to hand over emails or electronic devices and using every delay tactic in the book. Every time these things have to be litigated which drags things on and on and secondly it wasn't in the anyones interest to rush an investigation of this magnitude. Prosecutors would have been acutely aware of the huge political ramifications and possible consequences that may arise from bringing these cases.
Trump knew full well what legal jeopardy lay ahead for him after January 6th. In a strategic attempt to shield himself from prosecution he announced another run for the presidency and has sought to garner public support by claiming political persecution ever since. He knew conservative media would fall into line and play along and that his supporters are gullible enough to believe it. He'd been pulling the wool over their eyes and fleecing them of their money for long enough, after all. His next best defence is to claim he was just following the advice of his counsel - keep an eye on future deranged Truth Social ramblings for that. Unfortunately for Trump there are pages of evidence highlighted in the indictment to prove he was warned against the most audacious action by the lawyers that actually mattered, while the nut jobs like Rudy Guiliani, Sidney Powell and John Eastman are among the list of co-conspirators.
'The establishment', as you like to call it, didn't have to do anything. Trump is a con man and a charlatan who brought this, all of it, on himself. Finally he's facing real accountability, not a legal quandary he can buy himself out like he normally does.
'If he is ever found guilty and convicted on any of these charges or indictments, I’ll change my tune.'
I'm confident that he will be. You can save this post for posterity.
Keep your fantasies to yourself mate.
I feel sorry for some a you sad people, don't you get that all political parties are all crooked. Some sad brain death going on here. Some a you act like these dipshit politicians are out to save or help you. Holy fuck that's dumb. Rules for thee but not for me, across the board, all of them. Wake up dummies, stop being so dumb, stop it, get help.
Which is EXACTLY why I'll be lined up to vote for him in 24. Your average Joe can dissect this Witch Hunt for it is. The mainstream media couldnt slander him out of the running (dispite their best efforts) in 2016, and they have been scared shitless that the same could play out in 24. The establishment is afraid of Trump - and for the last 6 years, they've been making fools out of themselves trying to make him look like the bad guy.
Best of luck finding his name on the ballot.
I think he’s been doing a great job making himself look like the bad guy by being a bad guy.
Dude, you have a very unhealthy obsession with another man. Seek help. There’s no way any of this is good for you in anyway.
Damn dude, you need a hobby.
BTW, I was kidding around some with the Team America quote, but not really:
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/1/18/2010047/-January-6-Was-Our-9-11
Innocent until proven guilty…at least that used to be a thing in this country?
Trump-after years and years of this-has yet to be convicted of anything.
you say “civil vs legal. Either way…”as though you are talking about some little thing…it’s a HUGE difference! Someone can be legally justified (break no laws), but still lose a civil case be found liable for something. You try and lump them in as though it’s the difference in flavor between the red and green skittles or something. The difference is huge!
An indictment isn’t proof of guilt. It’s just the prosecutions case against him (one sided) so of course it’s going to look bad for him….the defense hasn’t been able to tell his side of the story.
Anyway, if Trump is guilty (I don’t care for him, and I certainly don’t want him to be the GOP nominee) string him up right next to Biden (if he is proven guilty). But I’ve got indictment fatigue…it’s been going on for so long and nothing ever seems to stick…all comes off as petty partisanship to me at this point.
Yes innocent until proven guilty. I could shoot someone in the middle of Time’s Square and be immediately arrested, yet I’ll still be innocent for a few months if not longer. Does that mean I didn’t do it? We have multiple audio tapes and even Truth Social posts of him admitting to the stuff he’s indicted for. We can deduce our own conclusions based on him incriminating himself, let alone what all other evidence there is.
You have indictment fatigue? Well you just said yourself innocent until proven guilty. The process has to play out. Investigation, grand jury, indictment, arraignment, trials. If indictments dropped immediately, you’d correctly say there’s no way they could have done a proper investigation.
He might be found not guilty. There might be 1 of 12 jurors who refuse to convict no matter what. OJ is not guilty, as is Casey Anthony. I don’t think any rational person, however, believes they didn’t do the crimes they were on trial for.
https://youtu.be/UW8QvjFfGt8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW8QvjFfGt8
Pit Row
I'll write him in if need be.
libs are pushing harder on indicting trump because they have opened pandora's box. they've weaponized the law enforcement agencies and impeachment....and they know that if/when he is President he is going to go total thermonuclear taking out those that tried to "get him". the investigations were entirely politically motivated, everyone knows it, and trump is going to steamroll everyone that tried to hurt him.
You're encouraged to do that.
The problem in surrounding yourself with sycophants: they bail at the first sign of trouble. If the evidence presented in the most recent indictment is true, there will be no shortage of collaborating witnesses.
Trump is like a bad marriage Too much time and energy has been invested to turn back now. Millions have sacrificed relationships and friendships in support of the man, and the embarrassment of reversing course simply leads to digging in deeper.
Trump’s policies aligned with my own views, and I hoped he could manage the presidency and its challenges. And while he certainly had numerous successes, Trump fixated more on diminishing those who opposed him. Things would be very different if he just focused on being president. But he couldn’t, and here we are.
This thread needs this gem from the meme thread.
Bout sums it up about better than if I wrote 20 paragraphs with 15 reference links:
yes, just like he drained the swamp before theyre terrified of him
They would freak the f$%# out.
But....Democrats didn't do that....instead they organized and funded a media campaign to try to get Electors to go against their constituents and cast their vote for someone other than the person who was selected. Is that any better?
There are 3 reasons he's running again.
To grift from his supporters for donations to help pay his legal fees. Which seems to be working bigly - they're handing it over hand and fist, the hopelessly devoted that they are.
To try to avoid prosecutions by hoping nobody would dare prosecute someone running for president. Or delay it long enough that he'll be sitting in the big seat before it happens.
And if he does happen to go all the way to the Whitehouse again - well, it's a pardon party.
All about him. He doesn't care about the country or its citizens.
Taxpayer funded judicial attrition, the dems running platform for the next election. Country has pretty much gone to shit, but they indicted Trump a bunch of times. Smith's press conference yesterday looked and sounded like a guy reading his own obituary. He was as convincing as the Goldman presser after the Archer testimony hearing Monday. "Joe was there only in the compacity to talk about the weather". And once the appeals finally make to the supreme court, all the conviction will be tossed out. Along with Garland and Biden.
Says the guy that lives in the socialist utopia that used government decree to freeze bank private citizens bank accounts without trial or due process. You've got your own stuff to be concerned about. Keep writing checks to pay that national carbon tax.
I hope trump is finally locked up or he dies so that all you bleeding heart trump haters will finally be able to back away from the keyboard and go ride your dirt bikes. I’m so fucking sick of the circus. At this point I don’t care. Lock em up. Kill ‘em. Whatever. Just get it over with and shut up. It’s getting so old. Just make sure the rest of the politicians get the same damn treatment. I want accountability for absolutely every single thing. Nothing them crooked cocksuckers pull should be let to slide. End all this foreign aid and fix the issues in OUR country. I couldn’t give a shit less about ukraine, Botswana, Niger, or any other country. I want to keep more of my tax dollars and stop being financially raped(extorted) by the government year after year.
Lol...A man from Brandon speaking about Brandon and the joy he's received from Brandonomics.
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