TM Racing 2024

i don`t dig the new colorway , but here are pics of the 2024 models.

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7/27/2023 10:08am

Still don't know what was new on the 23s, what's new on the 24s?

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7/27/2023 10:33am

Meh on the muted colors this year.    

TMs are works of art and the colors should be representative of that. 

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7/27/2023 10:35am

2023 was ment to be released whit 9mm clutch master , but seemingly it only got implemented late 23.

Think the en 2t got crank case sensor in late 23.

7/27/2023 10:39am

Anyone know why the silencer is so huge on the 125 in the top pic? 

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7/27/2023 10:50am

From the most awsome retro-pink this year to the most eastern europe color scheme next year…

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7/27/2023 10:51am Edited Date/Time 7/27/2023 10:53am
Tumic wrote:

From the most awsome retro-pink this year to the most eastern europe color scheme next year…

Form awsome pink to Lada grey.

edit reminded me of medical plastic color

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7/27/2023 12:30pm
Graybeard wrote:

Anyone know why the silencer is so huge on the 125 in the top pic? 

Sound regulations for european road legal bikes

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7/27/2023 12:54pm

Who is the TM importer in the USA now?

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7/27/2023 1:07pm

Who is the TM importer in the USA now?

I do not know.....but I know thjey have contacted at least one person asking if they were interested in becoming the US Importer.

7/27/2023 1:22pm
Graybeard wrote:

Anyone know why the silencer is so huge on the 125 in the top pic? 

Tumic wrote:

Sound regulations for european road legal bikes

Wow.........curious what a US aftermarket unit could do. I would guess those drain power?

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7/27/2023 1:45pm

Feel like its hard to sell bikes without a pro team or at least a few guys out there racing them in MX/SX

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7/27/2023 1:49pm

Last time I checked there was only a dozen dealers in the whole USA.

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Graybeard wrote:

Wow.........curious what a US aftermarket unit could do. I would guess those drain power?

Same as what a European aftermarket could do..

silencers rarley rob power, they just move it from one place to another. People often get fooled to think that louder is faster.

if you look at the new ktm two stroke tbi silencers they look like a four stroke silencer with a really large canister, but i doubt that a PC shorty or what ever would do any massive gains.

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7/27/2023 2:39pm

Never seen a TM other pics.  Must not have many dealer in the US.  Pretty sure there isn’t one in Houston and we have one or two of about everything.  Frames look Honda to me.  
 

 

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7/27/2023 2:44pm

Not blown away by the colors, but that can easily be changed. 

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wwdiii wrote:
Never seen a TM other pics.  Must not have many dealer in the US.  Pretty sure there isn’t one in Houston and we have one or...

Never seen a TM other pics.  Must not have many dealer in the US.  Pretty sure there isn’t one in Houston and we have one or two of about everything.  Frames look Honda to me.  
 

 

Actually they are hand made from Italy. They only make a small amount of them each year. You can customize your bike too. They are works of art. 

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7/27/2023 2:55pm

I like the Eastern Bloc look, would have been better with a grey front fender 

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7/27/2023 3:00pm

They were everywhere in SoCal for a year or two not that long ago. You’ll still see a couple guys on one at Glen Helen every now and then. They were racing some ngpc stuff I think? Rodrig Thain was racing one in the west coast off road stuff for a bit few years ago. Don’t know what happened as they’re not around the track much anymore. 

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7/27/2023 3:36pm

There was a handful of guys racing the EX series last year. They always sounded bad ass!

 

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Not that I would buy one, have a deposit down on a Beta but what does a TM cost.  I thought I saw a price list once and for std models they were about what an Austrian bike was but I could have dreamed it too.

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For years and years people were wondering if TM was ever going to homologate their bikes in the US and put up a race team. There were a few times where they had an mxgp team, but it never pushed them to that next level of recognizability, availability, or sales.
 

They had always seemed like they were the “next up” brand that some day would go racing and finally break out. How did Beta, a fellow Italian brand, manage to completely pass them out and now enter the arena with the big 5? Not only that but Triumph AND Ducati both came out of left field and are themselves putting together a US race team before TM. How did this happen? Triumph and Ducati are literally starting from scratch, while TM has had race 250f’s for years. Why are they able to do it and TM isnt? Could TM still come on to the scene at a later point? 

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I don't know what they do or if it is because of my childhood loving the 93'ish TM's, but any time I see a clean TM I am like watching a ferrari. For me the sexiest bike by far as always.

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7/27/2023 7:54pm
Pop Shmoke wrote:
For years and years people were wondering if TM was ever going to homologate their bikes in the US and put up a race team. There...

For years and years people were wondering if TM was ever going to homologate their bikes in the US and put up a race team. There were a few times where they had an mxgp team, but it never pushed them to that next level of recognizability, availability, or sales.
 

They had always seemed like they were the “next up” brand that some day would go racing and finally break out. How did Beta, a fellow Italian brand, manage to completely pass them out and now enter the arena with the big 5? Not only that but Triumph AND Ducati both came out of left field and are themselves putting together a US race team before TM. How did this happen? Triumph and Ducati are literally starting from scratch, while TM has had race 250f’s for years. Why are they able to do it and TM isnt? Could TM still come on to the scene at a later point? 

Triumph and Ducati have deep pockets. 

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ripper69 wrote:

Feel like its hard to sell bikes without a pro team or at least a few guys out there racing them in MX/SX

They only produce a very limited amount of bikes and sell out every year. 
 

Up in Canada we have a new distributor (Camstyn on here) down south Ralf is still the distributor I believe for now. 

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7/27/2023 8:19pm
Pop Shmoke wrote:
For years and years people were wondering if TM was ever going to homologate their bikes in the US and put up a race team. There...

For years and years people were wondering if TM was ever going to homologate their bikes in the US and put up a race team. There were a few times where they had an mxgp team, but it never pushed them to that next level of recognizability, availability, or sales.
 

They had always seemed like they were the “next up” brand that some day would go racing and finally break out. How did Beta, a fellow Italian brand, manage to completely pass them out and now enter the arena with the big 5? Not only that but Triumph AND Ducati both came out of left field and are themselves putting together a US race team before TM. How did this happen? Triumph and Ducati are literally starting from scratch, while TM has had race 250f’s for years. Why are they able to do it and TM isnt? Could TM still come on to the scene at a later point? 

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Triumph and Ducati have deep pockets. 

TM has no interest in homologating their bikes. They don’t want to up production. TM is basically an incredibly rich mans passion project and it’s been going steady for around 50 years. 

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7/27/2023 8:28pm Edited Date/Time 7/27/2023 8:28pm

I wonder if their FI 2-stroke 125 works better than the KTMs. I noticed one pic showed a 300 but didn’t say FI after it. 250, 125, and 144 had FI after.

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7/27/2023 9:05pm

What happened to the rumours of TM coming back to GP's? And what about the rumours of the whole company being sold to a chinese company?

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7/27/2023 9:34pm

TM had a good shoring in the EMX 125 and 300 series.

7/28/2023 1:15am

Production TM colourway has looked ugly for years. The light blue is the nicest colour of all the manufacturers yet they insist on making their bikes mostly white. Baffling to me. 

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7/28/2023 1:50am Edited Date/Time 7/28/2023 1:51am
Pop Shmoke wrote:
For years and years people were wondering if TM was ever going to homologate their bikes in the US and put up a race team. There...

For years and years people were wondering if TM was ever going to homologate their bikes in the US and put up a race team. There were a few times where they had an mxgp team, but it never pushed them to that next level of recognizability, availability, or sales.
 

They had always seemed like they were the “next up” brand that some day would go racing and finally break out. How did Beta, a fellow Italian brand, manage to completely pass them out and now enter the arena with the big 5? Not only that but Triumph AND Ducati both came out of left field and are themselves putting together a US race team before TM. How did this happen? Triumph and Ducati are literally starting from scratch, while TM has had race 250f’s for years. Why are they able to do it and TM isnt? Could TM still come on to the scene at a later point? 

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Triumph and Ducati have deep pockets. 

studworx wrote:
TM has no interest in homologating their bikes. They don’t want to up production. TM is basically an incredibly rich mans passion project and it’s been...

TM has no interest in homologating their bikes. They don’t want to up production. TM is basically an incredibly rich mans passion project and it’s been going steady for around 50 years. 

Part of that statement is false .Tm aim to double production to 5000 in short term . then later try to reach 10000 units.

Thats why they invested millions in expanding the factory.

 

Also that maybe one of the reason that tm dont make theire iwn wheels and sprocket anymore.

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