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Good call…I thought your prediction of 10 pages was crazy at the time…
You have no fvcking clue.. My 16YO kid over the last 2 years or so on a 2 stroke. He's moving to a 250 2T soon and he will kick your fvcking @ss. Power to weight ratio is off the charts.
You're over sharing, dong is slang for penis!
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Right on, the boy looks fast too. Keep him on the 125 that where the comp is & the most racers on the gate. Millville & the Midwest the largest class is 125. In Wi. Even we hv some kids that run in the top 5 &10 at big am races. It should b a cash paying class. I,m racing the 125 class for fun & to get my sprint speed cleaned up. The focus is the vet cash classes . I,m selling a Very clean 05 cr125 with a ton of extras
Once you have real speed on a 2T, a 4T is pretty easy. He’s ridden 250 and 350 4Ts and prefers his 125. So many of his friends are moving to 2504Ts before they are strong enough, and they are getting hurt. It’s a massive change in mass.
Lol, I know right? It’s a pretty loaded topic haha
Sounds like the OP of this thread is probably too young to experience hey day of racing two stroke's. I feel sorry for the younger generations for missing how things were before four stroke revolution.
In mid 90's almost every kid in my neighbourhood had a 80cc or a 125cc two stroke motocross bike and we had full starting gates even in our local club races.
The tracks wore quite differently and required much less grooming when everyone was on two strokes. Corners had smoothly flowing berms instead of deep ruts carved by 450 fours strokes that we have today caused by "point and shoot" riding style associated to them. Nobody talked about "lugging" the around whole track with using only the 4th gear back then.
The beauty of riding two stroke's that in order to go fast you need to be aggressive shift gears and use clutch. If you are lazy you won't be going nowhere. 125's are the most fun to race in that sense because lighter bikes with less rotating mass in the engine you can do fast riding line changes and use the every inch power that the small engine is producing. With less power it is easy to lose your momentum by a mistake and that creates more opportunities for passes. With a lighter bike it also easier to recover from a mistake just by manhandling the bike bad crashes with serious injuries happen more seldom.
I admit that the current crop of state of the art four stroke's are faster than two strokes but riding them is lot less fun for me. I'm not that fast anyways so I prefer to ride bikes that I have most fun with and that's why I have 125, 150 and 250 two stroke bikes in my garage at the moment
I am kind of in the middle. I was able to see Mcgrath once, then RC and Stew. I have a few memories of Troy, Red Bud, Millville when it was all 2 strokes but I didnt get on big bikes until 2010 so by that time 4 strokes had taken over. EFI was beginning.
You may be onto something with being younger, because 90% of my moto memories involve 4 strokes.
And it's not just the memories. Big bikes since 2010; I'm assuming you were still gaining talent at that time? For me, it's about the riding style being so different. If you grew up racing 2-strokes, you understand better how to maintain momentum and you rely more on throwing the bike around and finding lines. 4-strokes are more about putting power down in a straight line and then waiting around in the corners until you can line it up for the next straight.
This is not an insult to 4-stroke riders, but you guys haven't had to learn the same skills as we 2-stroke guys did. (Clearly, there are other skills you did have to learn, because I don't have them and I suck on the 4-strokes!)
well said!
Definitely understand the nostalgic allure of 2 strokes. I grew up on CR500s. I'm faster on the thumper, but nothing beats the thrill of the 2 stroke, even if it's only for 4 laps😅
Let's put it this way. Which one you prefer to watch? Riders using all the horsepower they can get out of the bike using whole width of the track to keep their momentum or riders tiptoeing around the track using only half throttle and trying to hang on to the bike the whole moto?
https://youtu.be/ckH1g-goOTY
Just skip to 7:10
This is why 2 stroke guys are 2 stroke guys.
Pick the four stroke:
I bet that smoke doesn't smell as sweet 😂
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