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I switched a bit between WSX and Red Bud. I'll just say that the one that looks and feels like a real world championship level event is not the one that holds the name.
You do give a shit because you can’t help but post on every thread you ‘don’t give a shit about ‘
Yet you call it World Series....."best races in the world"....."Number 1 in the world in supercross"
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You beat me to it.
F**K the FIM/WSX for going after our nationals.
Grow the sport....LMAO. That hasn't happened in decades...if anything, we're shrinking.
Ha! Outside of Anaheim I haven't seen anything close to a full stadium at a Supercross in a long, long time. The end zones in the football stadiums are almost always totally empty. Maybe that soccer stadium in San Diego was close but that's about as big as the average high school football stadium in Texas.
My mate works for Ticket Master and said he couldn’t even give away the promo tickets for this which is a shame.
Regarding results, one graphic shows Friese winning race 2, another show Justin Hill winning.
What’s true?
Outside of Roczen and maybe Savatgy, WSX is having little impact on the quality of the 450 class right now. McElrath, Nichols, Moranz, Bloss, Savatgy and Cartwright are the only guys in the top 30 that would probably be racing nationals right now if it wasn't for WSX. Savatgy could be a 5-10 guy with Bloss, Nichols and McElrath a step below but none other than Roczen would be near the front and on the broadcast regularly.
I am not a fan of the discount SX that WSX is throwing out there but I don't think it's been a big hit to the nationals....yet (though I do really miss Kenny). It will be interesting what kind of deals guys like Webb, Anderson, Barcia, etc sign during silly season. I am guessing Webb is SX only. The other guys, who knows. Barcia seems like a guy that will stick with the nationals.
What shocks me is a guy like Moranz not running the nationals. He was top 20 in points and I'm guessing he would have been a 15-25 guy most weekends for outdoors and maybe he could have held onto top 20. Based on what's been reported (who knows if it's true) I can't imagine he's making much from WSX. Then again, having the opportunity to travel all over the world on someone else's dime is pretty appealing so maybe take it while you can get it.
I wonder how many people from Birmingham would have gone to Red Budd today? Different markets, not sure why people think we can't have both. I think everyone knows world supercross means they race at locations around the world, not the best of the best around the world, that has and always will be SMX.
Same thing happened in Nz , first year packed , second year 2/3 full and never came back
I don't call it that but the SX thing is true...the best SX racers in the world are racing in the SX series in the States...and that is a fact...
Didn't Vince Friese win a main event? That is all i need to hear.
Can someone point me to the WSX main race thread.....can't seem to find it
Vitals results are weird. They have freise winning the 2 gp race 2 (same as the tv I watched ). But had Justin hill winning the race in the points table
Ok. It may be penalties , half way through race 3 and they mention race 2 possible penalties
You can’t compare Red Bud (running for 50 years) to WSX which is in its sort of second year.
The general population of the UK don’t have an appetite for supercross, it’s daft to think it will ever match the attendance at US supercross events, but again those have been running for decades
There is no way Vince could be penalized …… imposssible
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Where you race really doesn’t matter, does it? The entries are controlled, it isn’t like a local is going to sign up and shock the world with a surprise top 10 against the top riders in the world, right?
This feels far more like a circus than a real, top level race series. Especially when one rider has already earned $1.5M by the promoter just for being there and the others don’t actually officially get the purse money (the team gets it).
Feld mentioned that A1, A2 and San Diego were sold out. Look at the video them mfs were slam full
True, but WSX thinks they can, talked to them and from the moment I spoke to them I had a little cringe because they wouldn't organize in stadiums smaller than 50k. Besides we don't have that many stadiums, and sometimes those kind of stadiums are way out of the right location, it is also ludicrous to think that you can start at bigger and larger numbers than the "Paris Supercross" and the "Geneva Supercross" before you even organized one event.
I heard that they pump in +300k local advertising in every round, yet the SX in the UK wasn't really a score and the French one got cancelled without any sound. The ticket prices are too high because they are going for those giant stadiums they can't fill because of the ridiculous ticket prices. The start of the French Supercross championship, sold a stadium from 20k people out. Maybe they could think about those kind of stadiums: 20k to 30k stadiums, and drop those bloody ticket prices because we've a world wide inflation. Our money is losing his value because things get more expensive, so if somebody in England needs to choose between three national championship rounds or one evening in a empty stadium, their picks are made fast. Same as in France where people can choose between going towards the French Supercross for two or three times or one evening in a stadium, without most of the Frenchies because they aren't picked in the "plug and play team system" of the WSX.
The only ones who are still very happy, are the teams and riders.
Yeah, it may sound like trickery but if you sell every seat that you put up for sale, you could easily call it a sellout.
Today there were a huge number of empty seats in the areas that were obviously for sale.
Que the down votes....
For all you people who don't get it, we, the international MX community, would like to see SX in person without it costing $10-$15k to fly to the US.
If the AMA won't, why shouldn't someone else try?
The US doesn't have a sole licence to ALL SX riders. If some want to pursue an International career and get paid for it, why shouldn't they?
To expect AMA / Feld kind of attendance in countries that have less population than most US states and considerably fewer dirt bike enthusiasts even than that is ridiculous
To expect a world series in its second building year to be attracting the top, top riders in the world and perform at the level we all are used to with the AMA/Feld SX Series, a series running nearly 50 years, is ridiculous.
How hard a concept is it to understand?
"To expect a world series in its second building year to be attracting the top, top riders in the world and perform at the level we all are used to with the AMA/Feld SX Series, a series running nearly 50 years, is ridiculous."
You should inform SX Global communication team, because that's what they're selling for the second year in a row (with the ticket prices that go with it).
To a SX-starved, international public, why wouldn't they?
I doubt its price that is the limiting attendance factor. More like people actually interested...its a much smaller market versus what any US based fan is used to (or can even comprehend most likely).
Furthermore, like F1, Moto GP and almost ANY other sport, financially, the paying audience pales in comparison to the world wide TV audience. THAT is the market they are aiming for, bums on seats is probably just cashflow for the petty cash drawer.
Same comment for Feld (not an issue with lower sections closed for safety). It's baloney.
They should try, but they need to try harder and dump tons more money or it will fail (unless they get OEM buy in).
AUSX/Paris Invite has been doing a better job at attracting top tier guys to race overseas for a while now.
Are you going to fly to Abu Dhabi to watch them? The WSX isn't racing locally for anybody all year round so how is it different than one off events in your local area that actually attracts big names and crowds?
does WSX conflict/compete with MXGP date-wise?
Yes. Gp of Lombok Indonesia on this weekend
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