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Definitely wild. Cant get behind it though, I feel a moral dilemma with that event.
I went for the first time ever this year. Seeing it in person is something else and I'd recommend it to everyone. I'll certainly be going back. This video does a great job of capturing the action from qualifying week.,,
Very envious of you seeing it in person. I've enjoyed reading and watching vids of this race for a long time and have always wanted to go watch it in person. It's probably one of the rawest forms of racing in having to be on point at all times without any mistakes or mortality is waiting. It takes huge balls and skills to ride that place imo.
This Year : The Fastest Ever Lap (so far) by Peter Hickman = 136.358 mph Lap Average Speed:
https://youtu.be/31RZ5wU-Fg0
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Mr. fly like trains. Not judging, just wondering what the moral delemma is regarding the TT ?
Really sucks seeing people live out their dreams and do what makes them happy /s
Anyone who rides a dirtbike and says the TT is a moral dilemma needs some perspective because most of the world looks at dirtbikes and thinks "well, that's a bit too dangerous" as well.
Yeah, it really needs to be seen to be beleived. Being so close to the course and feeling the wind that the bikes push to the side and the noise is incredible. I was on Sulby straight when Peter Hickman clocked 202mph. That was quite something!
Hey, that's my Dads name...Dont get me wrong, the guts and skill the racers have to do the TT is amazing. The riders know the risks, dangers involved and still want to willingly compete. Where it gets murky is the money being made off of it to feed their economy. Promoting a race that on average usually has 2 deaths in a 2 week span while the government reaps the benefits just doesnt sit right with me. Sure their are fans that love it for the pure ability these guys have to ride the razors edge but there are just as many people who watch just to see the carnage.
Talking about a single event
You know that nobody is making these riders race right? It is optional. You said it yourself, 'The riders know the risks, dangers involved and still want to willingly compete'.
And I'd say there are a lot less fans that watch just to see the carnage, as there really isn't much. There are few crashes sure, but nothing like we see in motocross and supercross.
We went last year and my Dad was lucky enough to snag a picture with Peter. The dude is unreal!
That's not the problem
The crashes you see in MX/SX dont have the consequences seen at the TT. Once again talking about a single event.
Edit-Yes I know they have crashes in MX/SX that are devastating and have resulted in many deaths.
I’ve been watching that race for years and always wanted to see it in person.
After reading some these posts, now I have to go.
Do I have to state the obvious? No one forces anyone to participate.
Well then don't race it.
I think hes referring to how many guys have died during that race
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Dirtbikes allows children to compete. Manufacturers, circuits etc... all make money off this business. Children get hurt racing dirt bikes, some seriously so. So in terms of 'morals' I think before anyone criticises the Isle of Man for running the TT, they maybe need to take a look closer to home. You really are not in any better place if that's how you measure morality.
If the TT goes, then good luck defending the dangers of your chosen sport. The TT is like the great wall that protects everything else from being int he crosshairs of ban culture. Take concern trolling elsewhere.
My moral dilemma is deciding whether to tell you to fuck off or not. I cannot stand meddling assholes that can't stop themselves from imposing their will and beliefs on other people (especially those in positions of power or authority). I sincerely hope you're not one of those people.....
Oh, and the TT is awesome. The absolute pinnacle of road racing (along with MotoGP, although they're different animals completely).
not comparable at all lol Of course kids get hurt racing moto but we do not have one single event that claims on average 2 lives a year like Isle of man does. In moto if a track gets too dangerous, they prep the track, change the jump, etc.
you are changing the argument to align with how you feel lol
He simply said "I" in regards to morals. Never said thats how everyone should feel. You are doing the exact thing you are bitching about lol
That "shimmy" the bike does when the front wheel touches back down is terrifying.
I've always loved this event. It's absolutely insane.
I respect your opinion whether I agree with it or not. Its your opinion and you are 100% entitled to have that opinion.
I was fortunate enough to meet and hangout with Guy Martin at the Austin MotoGP race a few years ago. Super cool guy
I used to love the TT. But I can't watch anymore. I'm happy to let the riders keep doing it, but it's not for me. I know every sport I watch (which is just different types of racing) has the potential for serious injury or death. Gino Mader just passed away from a bicycle crash a couple weeks ago. Breaks my heart, but I still watch cycling. But the TT just isn't fun for me anymore.
I guess we all have some amount of risk we are comfortable watching for entertainment, and at some point the risk makes it not entertaining anymore. I'll not judge people if their point is different than mine, and I hope they'll offer me the same courtesy.
Fair enough...I can see that
You could look at our own Government in the same manner using our soldiers for huge personal profits during conflicts but it does not stop people from signing up.
Jump the gun a little? Never said it should be stopped, never said it was going to be stopped. Dont care what people do. As exciting as it is to watch, it doesnt feel right TO ME knowing how much they're risking while I'm being entertained. Is it that hard to understand?
Thats an honest perspective but I think the thread was started more to show how badass the TT is, not necessarily how dangerous it is, which is obvious. I take it you're probably younger than me but if not you'll understand my negative gut-feeling every time I watch my kid take off from the gate with a pack of other 13yo throttle jockeys that are hell bent on going wfo. The concept is the same and is real. I know at any time that shit can go very wrong in this sport but that is something that I deal with being in it. Same as the TT riders, fans, and their families. The danger is very real, but they choose to be there and take the risk.
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