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1) I think it’s great for fans on the other side of the pond here’s the rub for me as a US moto fan. I have no reason personally to be interested or vested in the series. I have never watched or followed MXGP. I could maybe name three guys that race over there. And I would consider myself a huge dirt bike fan. Watch every race, listen to every pod, tweet vital.
2) I’d venture to say significantly more fans on the other side of the pond follow the US series than US follows MXGP.
3) understandably there is going to be a very split opinion on this so it is what it is
At the end of the day where I feel that WSX went wrong was solely basing their series under the premise of the American line up. Be original and get guys like herling and Gumby and wolf (there’s the three riders I know) in addition to the US guys then maybe I’d be interested to watch the rivalry unfold That would be awesome
them calling it the world championship of supercross puts me off.
I know it’s been tried before but ultimately the SX series should have at least 2-3 Euro rounds to make it a true world SX series…I see a merger similar to LIV/ PGA golf…..
Chatting with you is called a total waste of time.
SX Global is selling in the most pretentious way something they're not able to deliver. At all.
If you don't see it, you're way more biased than me.
After its "5 to 6 races 2022 pilot season", can't wait to watch WSX "10 to 12 races 2023 season". Oh by the way, it should already have started, by now. In the US.
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For me, it’s a couple factors.
1) I wish ALL stadium racing would go away and we’d get back to moto’s roots…ie REAL MX, outdoors.
2) If we have to have indoor racing, one series is plenty, particularly if a second would conflict with our outdoor racing (like WSX does). This is in large part due to the fact that our sport isn’t nearly big enough to support multiple competing series. Even Indy wasn’t big enough to do well when it split into two. We are nowhere near as big as Indy was.
Counterpoint: if all forms of MX/SX could get the backing to field their own riders and teams without “robbing Peter to pay Paul,” it could be good for the sport by opening up more opportunities for riders to get rides.
So totally biased Aussie fan , but it is great for all the fans that don't live in the US who are spoilt with having the premier SX series and MX series. I don't think it will ever take over the AMA SX series and I don't really think that was there intention.
As for diminishing the outdoor series a lot of the top guys were already going for SX only contracts anyway until the AMA and Feld decided to find another $5 Million and suddenly have an SMX series, which is awesome for the riders.
And I don't really get the hate of them calling it "World SuperCross" when they are actually going to different countries as opposed to every other event in the US being called a World Championship and not even venturing outside the US lol
Assuming this puts you off as well?
I don’t want WSX to fail (in terms of taking the sport global) - but I don’t support their current agenda. They came in to the scene with an attitude of “We’re not going to stand on anyone’s toes” and all they have done since, is exactly the opposite.
To be a true world championship, you need the best in the world to show up… and they haven’t got the talent to justify it being a world title. They aren’t, and never will be, the premier series.
They have over promised and severely under delivered. They should have just come on the scene as the premier off-season exhibition supercross series to take the sport global. Good $$$ for the riders, good exhibition style supercross races across the world with a couple top blokes at each round and made it a party.
To grand of an idea with too little R&D.
So please name all theses top guys who were going Supercross only but changed there minds because of the creation of SMX.. Possibly Eli. Who else? Even Kenny said up until he got paid by WSX was going outdoors.
So the top riders as you mentioned Eli, Kenny, and Cooper Webb was in talks until he got hurt.... Money talks especially for the guys that are still in the top echelon but may be just past their prime.... Don't get me wrong I don't ever see the WSX getting the absolute cream of the crop , but you start getting guys like Anderson, Barcia, Webb, Tomac , Roczen and you've got a pretty decent series
What am I blinded about? Their success? yeah like I mentioned it's going to be very hard.
Scheduling is hard due to hiring out facilities other logistics and their scheduling is ok it would be shit if WSX and AMA SX crossed over, if they want to avoid cross over they would be working in a 2-3 month window lol.
Are you saying the "shifting" is going to hurt growth because fans won't watch it? because I can tell you know now fan's don't give a shit, they aren't saying I got WSX now fuck AMA SX, everyone knows AMA SX is the premier SX series everyone who loves moto will watch it, if you're talking about riders yeah maybe? I'd say the hyper focus(understandable thats where the money is) on SX hurts the Outdoors more than anything.
End of the day man here's the perspective, I've been watching both indoors and outdoors since I could remember probably since 95, that's almost 30 years, it's a pretty exciting prospect to be able to watch some of the best riders on a SX track in your home town.
In a perfect world as a selfish fan I'd remove 40% of the AMA SX schedule and have the rest of the races around the world, that way I can watch the very best do it here, but that's not going to happen so I'll take what I can get with WSX.
Needs a Global series - think LIV vs PGA...........more money for riders going forward
Unless global riders start getting way better at Supercross. It'll never happen. Would need Herlings, Prado, Febvre, etc.
The American factory teams are never going on the road for a global schedule.
No, i mean us, not US. I have nothing against off season races placed in between series.
But there isn't enough riders to fill 3 premium series without each serie taking a hit.
I like what they doing trying to go international, sport will get exposure but again it will come with the cost of less interesting racing.
I want WSX to succeed.
Clearly AMA SX has been taking advantage of the talent for a long time.
I appreciate what Prater and co do - to put on the show and all - but the fact that the talent is disposable does not sit well with me.
There has been talk of a riders union for years - but no one has the $$ or balls to make it happen - and Feld have tried to close it down at all costs. Even halfway measures like Trey Canard trying to advise on track changes for safety have been denied by Feld who think their opinion is all that matters.
Now with all this Super motocross bullshit - its clear that Feld see WSX as a threat and have opened up their wallet.
Sucks that mx sports have been dragged into this - because their business is much more sustainable long term - because the mx enthusiasts will always want to watch the premier world series of scrambles - vs the hybrid entertainment of SX.
Well you threw me when you mentioned 3 parallel series during summer.. Cause it's not everyone's summer haha
So I figure I misunderstood and we actually agree haha
Well I'm not sure how you can say it'll never happen considering the amount of foreign riders that have ended up in the states to race SX.. (unless you mean the current crop will never do it)
Maybe it will take a few years for the series to build up and then the future Frenchies and Aussies that wanna race SX will go straight to WSX
I don't think there is many riders doing WSX that would have done the outdoors anyway, maybe Clason is the only one I can think of
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I'm an Aussie and I'm not interested in WSX or the AMA play-offs, there is enough motorcycle racing going on in the world, I am up to speed with AMA supercross, although I am not really a believer in jumpcross. Love AMA outdoors & MXGP, I watch some MotoGP, World Superbikes and Australian Champs motocross, I don't have time for more crap.
I'd rather be out riding or working on my own bike!!!!!
Global riders like, say, Jett and Hunter Lawrence, Kenye, Jo, Marvin etc?
Not WSX in 2023, but the first two riders at least are racing Supercross in Perronard's Paris- 'Bercy' SX this year.
The 40 year success of Bercy shows clearly that there is a market for a softer SX product than AMA/Feld.
Calling yourself world champion while you race US only that’s funny in my opinion you’re a national champion don’t care how big your country is or what nationality competes in it. Then you are a Italian winning a sx or mx title. Nonetheless the level is world class. When you race in one country only then you don’t race world wide. So my opinion the WSX is a real world championship just doesn’t have enough world class riders but who knows what will happen in the future. I think it’s cool 😎
Why the lack of MXGP riders going WSX?
low time on SX tracks, and already having a series running at the same time,
Meaning American Honda, Star Yamaha, Monster Energy Kawasaki, Red Bull KTM, etc. Maybe these teams will launch an international team? But I highly doubt it. Every US SX round was sold out. These teams aren't going to forego the for sure money of a US round to pack up and travel to Sydney, London, Paris, Berlin, etc.
Not to mention, traveling all over the world like that will right of the bat result in less races.
No, all of those guys left the international scene as soon as possible to come to the US and race SX.
Can you tell us how you know every 2023 Feld SX round was a sellout?
There were 17 of them.
Yes they went to the US cause that's the only place that had SX.. We are saying they may have stayed in the international scene if WSX was around
So, maybe that is part of the reasons people don't like WSX. They set up to conflict more with MXGP schedule, i.e. bigger potential to draw from AMA rider pool. Which also gives less chance for MXGP riders to cross over. IMO there would be a few MXGP riders that would do pretty good at SX given the chance. Talent is talent. If WSX really wants to be worlds best why not try to accommodate MXGP riders?
They're welcome and encouraged.
Even SX lite is has daunting learning curve.
In the end of the day. Feld started this by refusing or failing (i guess it depends on how you see it) to bring SX worldwide and by dropping FIM.
They dropped FIM and created a space for someone else that they held, and chose to stay put even though there is a demand for international races. WSX happened.
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