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Ok, so what is the issue?

Dry

I am guessing that you are the quitting type.  If you have something meaningful to add about why, or why not Sexton should be out there...

I am guessing that you are the quitting type.  If you have something meaningful to add about why, or why not Sexton should be out there and what makes a champion vs. 2nd place, please indulge me.

When you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is stop digging..

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No disrespect, you were always one of my favorite guys, and of course one of the best in your day.  But maybe that attitude is why...

No disrespect, you were always one of my favorite guys, and of course one of the best in your day.  But maybe that attitude is why you were 2nd?  I mean do you really want Sexton on your team if he is sitting it out because he can't win the championship? 

On another note, why did you let Larocco push you around and never gave it back to him? 

I did the best I could with the amount of work I put in. Could have I done better or work harder? Possibly but I didn't. I ended up winning as many SX races as O'Mara and Emig did in the premier class. It would be great if I got a fraction of the respect you give those guys though, not asking for the same respect but at least a fraction...

And for the record, I wouldn't have raced 129 SX mains in the premier class if I only raced when I had a shot at a championship. If I did, I would've raced only 32 (16 in 2000 and 16 in 2002)...

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More like the dolphin. To my eyes, Sexton isn't up for the challenge with Jett, at least right now.  Seems like a head case that makes...

More like the dolphin.

To my eyes, Sexton isn't up for the challenge with Jett, at least right now.  Seems like a head case that makes a lot of unforced errors, which we have clearly seen the last couple of years.  He surely doesn't have the fortitude that Stanton had being essentially 2nd fiddle to RJ.

 

Did you not watch outdoors last year... 

Sure did and I watched Sexton make stupid mistake after stupid mistake.  Maybe he thinks about that too much now.

You might want to go back and rewatch them. He made 2 mistakes last year, the race he gifted Kenny the win and the race he was following Eli’s line so couldn’t take advantage when Eli fell from the pressure Chase was putting on him

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GrapeApe wrote:

How was the cell phone reception for this rumor?

It was good.

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dv12.com wrote:
No point racing MX for him now other than making bonus money. For a guy like that, the title is the only goal and why the...

No point racing MX for him now other than making bonus money. For a guy like that, the title is the only goal and why the manufactures only pay a championship bonus. For factory riders, getting 2nd (or worse. I know, been 2nd a couple times) or getting 6th, has the same value/reward. It's why historically you saw champions, past champions or potential champions just not bother come back from an injury. RC took 04 SX off and went on to go 24-0 outdoors. I'm sure he could've came back for some SX but decided not to. He's not the only one, just the most famous one... 

As far as Sexton goes, it has to be more than a concussion obviously. We hear mono, we hear relationship with Honda, we hear he's going to KTM. Seems like lot of stuff going on for him after an unexpected and dreamy SX season ending...

Will we see him work some kind of a release with Honda (after the Honda SX bonus clears haha) and show on a different bike in September in North Carolina? With the amount of money at stakes for 3 races, I'm sure everyone eligible will show up for them/it (races/bag)... 

Do the factory teams and manufacturers only pay a championship bonus? There is no win bonus? If I can't make a $1+ million for a championship bonus I may still go after $300,000 in win bonuses. Then again, I'll never make that kind of money so what do I know

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dv12.com wrote:
No point racing MX for him now other than making bonus money. For a guy like that, the title is the only goal and why the...

No point racing MX for him now other than making bonus money. For a guy like that, the title is the only goal and why the manufactures only pay a championship bonus. For factory riders, getting 2nd (or worse. I know, been 2nd a couple times) or getting 6th, has the same value/reward. It's why historically you saw champions, past champions or potential champions just not bother come back from an injury. RC took 04 SX off and went on to go 24-0 outdoors. I'm sure he could've came back for some SX but decided not to. He's not the only one, just the most famous one... 

As far as Sexton goes, it has to be more than a concussion obviously. We hear mono, we hear relationship with Honda, we hear he's going to KTM. Seems like lot of stuff going on for him after an unexpected and dreamy SX season ending...

Will we see him work some kind of a release with Honda (after the Honda SX bonus clears haha) and show on a different bike in September in North Carolina? With the amount of money at stakes for 3 races, I'm sure everyone eligible will show up for them/it (races/bag)... 

Oh yeah right dude! I bet you never got better than a 6th place in the JR class at the local chicken licks raceway!  Pffft!......some of the bullshit we have to read on here.

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dv12.com wrote:
No point racing MX for him now other than making bonus money. For a guy like that, the title is the only goal and why the...

No point racing MX for him now other than making bonus money. For a guy like that, the title is the only goal and why the manufactures only pay a championship bonus. For factory riders, getting 2nd (or worse. I know, been 2nd a couple times) or getting 6th, has the same value/reward. It's why historically you saw champions, past champions or potential champions just not bother come back from an injury. RC took 04 SX off and went on to go 24-0 outdoors. I'm sure he could've came back for some SX but decided not to. He's not the only one, just the most famous one... 

As far as Sexton goes, it has to be more than a concussion obviously. We hear mono, we hear relationship with Honda, we hear he's going to KTM. Seems like lot of stuff going on for him after an unexpected and dreamy SX season ending...

Will we see him work some kind of a release with Honda (after the Honda SX bonus clears haha) and show on a different bike in September in North Carolina? With the amount of money at stakes for 3 races, I'm sure everyone eligible will show up for them/it (races/bag)... 

jeffro503 wrote:
Oh yeah right dude! I bet you never got better than a 6th place in the JR class at the local chicken licks raceway!  Pffft!......some of...

Oh yeah right dude! I bet you never got better than a 6th place in the JR class at the local chicken licks raceway!  Pffft!......some of the bullshit we have to read on here.

Well I got me a racerx cover print with DV on the cover personally autographed to "bobbym"  and it is bahad ass. One of my favorite shadow boxed items. 😎👍😉

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No disrespect, you were always one of my favorite guys, and of course one of the best in your day.  But maybe that attitude is why...

No disrespect, you were always one of my favorite guys, and of course one of the best in your day.  But maybe that attitude is why you were 2nd?  I mean do you really want Sexton on your team if he is sitting it out because he can't win the championship? 

On another note, why did you let Larocco push you around and never gave it back to him? 

dv12.com wrote:
I did the best I could with the amount of work I put in. Could have I done better or work harder? Possibly but I didn't...

I did the best I could with the amount of work I put in. Could have I done better or work harder? Possibly but I didn't. I ended up winning as many SX races as O'Mara and Emig did in the premier class. It would be great if I got a fraction of the respect you give those guys though, not asking for the same respect but at least a fraction...

And for the record, I wouldn't have raced 129 SX mains in the premier class if I only raced when I had a shot at a championship. If I did, I would've raced only 32 (16 in 2000 and 16 in 2002)...

Don’t give him the satisfaction DV

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You guys are ridiculous.  Vuillemen is a grown man and can choose to answer or not, he doesn't need you guys to protect him from a...

You guys are ridiculous.  Vuillemen is a grown man and can choose to answer or not, he doesn't need you guys to protect him from a legitimate question.  He also doesn't owe me an answer, but clearly is one of the pro's on here who does post and also has success as a coach.  So as someone who is interested in the mental aspect of not only moto, but success in general, I am interested to know what was going on in his mind. 

He was faster than Larocco, but consistently got out of his way.  Why did he do that?  His previous answer in this thread would indicate to me that he didn't have the heart of Larocco and that the pay check was more important.  Of course Larocco was known for having heart, maybe more so than talent.  Vuillemen also seems to think that this is the primary motivation for most racers today.   Is that simply my perception of him, could be. 

He is probably correct about people out there racing today, but in my opinion, the people who become champions want to be out there competing, not only in moto but  in life.  There are some people who will just never say die.  I can think of a few off hand, Hannah, Stanton, RC, Hughes, Hampshire.  Some of those guys are champions, some of them got 2nd a lot.   

Which of those types is Sexton?  He certainly could be unable to race, but maybe in his head he is defeated and fighting those demons and that's why he isn't out there.  Losing to Tomac after putting all you had in it, and making the mental mistakes that played a big part in losing and then getting smoked by Jett in MxDN, is mentally pretty heavy.  Only he and his circle know what is going on, but it certainly isn't a lack of talent or equipment holding him back. 

 

Sorry bro, but most here would agree, you are the ridiculous one. You don't even comprehend that the Larocco comment isn't even the issue here lol. 

Ok, so what is the issue?

Why not be a man and own up to the fact that you’re being an internet douche bag, behaving in a way you never would, if you were face to face with DV.

 

jeez, I hope this is the case.

 

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It's insane that some here have no idea who DV is.

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I thought this thread was about Sexton?…..

I’d agree with some of these theories if it wasn’t for the three SMX rounds and the seeding running into them. If Sexton is healthy enough to be able to ride competitively, I can’t see Honda not wanting him out there.

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       DV12, that was a respectful and honest answer. I am sure you know this already, but you most definitely do not owe any more detailed of an answer than you have provided. Fuck,em if they can’t take a joke.

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       DV12, that was a respectful and honest answer. I am sure you know this already, but you most definitely do not owe any...

       DV12, that was a respectful and honest answer. I am sure you know this already, but you most definitely do not owe any more detailed of an answer than you have provided. Fuck,em if they can’t take a joke.

Supposed to say "fuck you, you're fired"....

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6/22/2023 3:27pm
No disrespect, you were always one of my favorite guys, and of course one of the best in your day.  But maybe that attitude is why...

No disrespect, you were always one of my favorite guys, and of course one of the best in your day.  But maybe that attitude is why you were 2nd?  I mean do you really want Sexton on your team if he is sitting it out because he can't win the championship? 

On another note, why did you let Larocco push you around and never gave it back to him? 

dv12.com wrote:
I did the best I could with the amount of work I put in. Could have I done better or work harder? Possibly but I didn't...

I did the best I could with the amount of work I put in. Could have I done better or work harder? Possibly but I didn't. I ended up winning as many SX races as O'Mara and Emig did in the premier class. It would be great if I got a fraction of the respect you give those guys though, not asking for the same respect but at least a fraction...

And for the record, I wouldn't have raced 129 SX mains in the premier class if I only raced when I had a shot at a championship. If I did, I would've raced only 32 (16 in 2000 and 16 in 2002)...

I do appreciate the response, your talent and opinion and was being sincere when stating that I was always pulling for you.  And I sincerely didn't mean any disrespect in my question, so I apologize to you, not to the angry mob.  To my eyes, the way your 1st response came off  was that you were advocating Sexton sit it out.  I guess I am old school, if you make an agreement, you hold up your end of the deal no matter what. 

It's a different situation than RC after getting hurt in SX and then going 24-0.  My thinking is that he needs to get out there, if he is healthy and behave like the top guy that he is, that's what a champ does isn't it, go out and win races?  Even though he is the SX champion this year, he didn't consistently beat Tomac or Webb and hasn't beaten Jett.

I stand by the second part of my question, I know you were a very clean rider, but why didn't you punt Larocco at least once!  I saw him do it to you in SX many a time.  To me that is part of the game, everyone is so talented at this level, it's the mental edge that makes the difference.  Tomac could sit behind Sexton and wait for the mistake to happen.  Same thing racing Hampshire, or Cianciarulo from a couple of years ago.  If you want to beat a guy that is winning round after round, you better do something to put a doubt in there.

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Did you not watch outdoors last year... 

Sure did and I watched Sexton make stupid mistake after stupid mistake.  Maybe he thinks about that too much now.

yak651 wrote:
You might want to go back and rewatch them. He made 2 mistakes last year, the race he gifted Kenny the win and the race he...

You might want to go back and rewatch them. He made 2 mistakes last year, the race he gifted Kenny the win and the race he was following Eli’s line so couldn’t take advantage when Eli fell from the pressure Chase was putting on him

Didn't he crash about 3 times at the last round at pala?

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It's insane that some here have no idea who DV is.

I cant identify one person in this thread that doesn't know who he is.

Who, in this thread, had no idea?

There is enough drama, no need to create more....

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Your first two words say it all.

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I'm not sure why there is a lot of talk saying there's no reason to come back for MX. There is seeding for SMX races. With...

I'm not sure why there is a lot of talk saying there's no reason to come back for MX. There is seeding for SMX races. With only 3 races in that series it seems really important to seed high and start out with more points as there isn't a lot of time to make up points. The payout could be massive if you win that series for only 3 races. 

Exactly. He and webb are close for the #1 seed.  The champ purse is a million bucks plus any contractual team or sponsor bonus.  Seems reason enough to me.

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Did you not watch outdoors last year... 

Sure did and I watched Sexton make stupid mistake after stupid mistake.  Maybe he thinks about that too much now.

yak651 wrote:
You might want to go back and rewatch them. He made 2 mistakes last year, the race he gifted Kenny the win and the race he...

You might want to go back and rewatch them. He made 2 mistakes last year, the race he gifted Kenny the win and the race he was following Eli’s line so couldn’t take advantage when Eli fell from the pressure Chase was putting on him

Your sentiment is correct, but Sexton also borked it up the second moto of Budds Creek and Pala with multiple crashes in each of those motos. 

 

What a great year last year was, and I really hope Sexton comes back to race this season and puts the coals to her

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Your first two words say it all.

I'm at a loss too. Are you referring to Jeffro's sarcasm?

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CPR wrote:
I thought this thread was about Sexton?….. I’d agree with some of these theories if it wasn’t for the three SMX rounds and the seeding running...

I thought this thread was about Sexton?…..

I’d agree with some of these theories if it wasn’t for the three SMX rounds and the seeding running into them. If Sexton is healthy enough to be able to ride competitively, I can’t see Honda not wanting him out there.

Exactly. I think the only thing HRC would like more than having one Honda run away with the c-ship is having two Hondas battling it out for the c-ship. Only makes the bike look better.

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Legally what can be done, if Chase wants to sit out, but Honda wants him to race or vice versa? Also, when does Chase’s contract end? September or October? 
 

btw, DV12, man, I was rooting for you in 2002, that was your championship! I’m still pissed at Transworld(I think that’s the magazine that you got hurt doing the photo shoot, otherwise I’ve been pissed at the wrong one!) lol

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No disrespect, you were always one of my favorite guys, and of course one of the best in your day.  But maybe that attitude is why...

No disrespect, you were always one of my favorite guys, and of course one of the best in your day.  But maybe that attitude is why you were 2nd?  I mean do you really want Sexton on your team if he is sitting it out because he can't win the championship? 

On another note, why did you let Larocco push you around and never gave it back to him? 

Hi Ping!

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dv12.com wrote:
No point racing MX for him now other than making bonus money. For a guy like that, the title is the only goal and why the...

No point racing MX for him now other than making bonus money. For a guy like that, the title is the only goal and why the manufactures only pay a championship bonus. For factory riders, getting 2nd (or worse. I know, been 2nd a couple times) or getting 6th, has the same value/reward. It's why historically you saw champions, past champions or potential champions just not bother come back from an injury. RC took 04 SX off and went on to go 24-0 outdoors. I'm sure he could've came back for some SX but decided not to. He's not the only one, just the most famous one... 

As far as Sexton goes, it has to be more than a concussion obviously. We hear mono, we hear relationship with Honda, we hear he's going to KTM. Seems like lot of stuff going on for him after an unexpected and dreamy SX season ending...

Will we see him work some kind of a release with Honda (after the Honda SX bonus clears haha) and show on a different bike in September in North Carolina? With the amount of money at stakes for 3 races, I'm sure everyone eligible will show up for them/it (races/bag)... 

"Dreamy SX ending"    = gifted SX season ending.  Wink

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It's insane that some here have no idea who DV is.

Is it really?

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dv12.com wrote:
No point racing MX for him now other than making bonus money. For a guy like that, the title is the only goal and why the...

No point racing MX for him now other than making bonus money. For a guy like that, the title is the only goal and why the manufactures only pay a championship bonus. For factory riders, getting 2nd (or worse. I know, been 2nd a couple times) or getting 6th, has the same value/reward. It's why historically you saw champions, past champions or potential champions just not bother come back from an injury. RC took 04 SX off and went on to go 24-0 outdoors. I'm sure he could've came back for some SX but decided not to. He's not the only one, just the most famous one... 

As far as Sexton goes, it has to be more than a concussion obviously. We hear mono, we hear relationship with Honda, we hear he's going to KTM. Seems like lot of stuff going on for him after an unexpected and dreamy SX season ending...

Will we see him work some kind of a release with Honda (after the Honda SX bonus clears haha) and show on a different bike in September in North Carolina? With the amount of money at stakes for 3 races, I'm sure everyone eligible will show up for them/it (races/bag)... 

Do you not think there's any part of the equation that involves Chase's ego wanting to beat Jett in at least one outdoor race this year? Surely also to get a couple of gate drops before SMX which I assume he won't be missing.

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No disrespect, you were always one of my favorite guys, and of course one of the best in your day.  But maybe that attitude is why...

No disrespect, you were always one of my favorite guys, and of course one of the best in your day.  But maybe that attitude is why you were 2nd?  I mean do you really want Sexton on your team if he is sitting it out because he can't win the championship? 

On another note, why did you let Larocco push you around and never gave it back to him? 

dv12.com wrote:
I did the best I could with the amount of work I put in. Could have I done better or work harder? Possibly but I didn't...

I did the best I could with the amount of work I put in. Could have I done better or work harder? Possibly but I didn't. I ended up winning as many SX races as O'Mara and Emig did in the premier class. It would be great if I got a fraction of the respect you give those guys though, not asking for the same respect but at least a fraction...

And for the record, I wouldn't have raced 129 SX mains in the premier class if I only raced when I had a shot at a championship. If I did, I would've raced only 32 (16 in 2000 and 16 in 2002)...

 You raced in the McGrath and RC era, and came away with wins and were a legit contender.  Most of us can only dream of a fraction of that. Much respect, hopefully you are enjoying the fruits of your success, David.

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Sure did and I watched Sexton make stupid mistake after stupid mistake.  Maybe he thinks about that too much now.

yak651 wrote:
You might want to go back and rewatch them. He made 2 mistakes last year, the race he gifted Kenny the win and the race he...

You might want to go back and rewatch them. He made 2 mistakes last year, the race he gifted Kenny the win and the race he was following Eli’s line so couldn’t take advantage when Eli fell from the pressure Chase was putting on him

USA wrote:
Your sentiment is correct, but Sexton also borked it up the second moto of Budds Creek and Pala with multiple crashes in each of those motos. ...

Your sentiment is correct, but Sexton also borked it up the second moto of Budds Creek and Pala with multiple crashes in each of those motos. 

 

What a great year last year was, and I really hope Sexton comes back to race this season and puts the coals to her

To be fair, outside of Pala 2 with Chase, High Point is the only time Jett was pushed speed wise, due to Kenny deciding to race.  And while he still went 1-1, he did go down in a moto.  Just goes to show that when pushed to a higher limit, the best of the best will still make mistakes.  I have no doubt that if Chase were 100% right now and he and Jett were racing each other, Jett would be borking it up here and there too - just like when Eli and Chase had their moments last year.  Without Ken, Chase, or Eli to push Jett the other riders just aren't fast enough to push him at an uncomfortable pace.  

 

As fans, we need Chase in the outdoors ASAP.

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OP doesn't have to name their source, but just dropping this and leaving it is lame. 

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yak651 wrote:
You might want to go back and rewatch them. He made 2 mistakes last year, the race he gifted Kenny the win and the race he...

You might want to go back and rewatch them. He made 2 mistakes last year, the race he gifted Kenny the win and the race he was following Eli’s line so couldn’t take advantage when Eli fell from the pressure Chase was putting on him

USA wrote:
Your sentiment is correct, but Sexton also borked it up the second moto of Budds Creek and Pala with multiple crashes in each of those motos. ...

Your sentiment is correct, but Sexton also borked it up the second moto of Budds Creek and Pala with multiple crashes in each of those motos. 

 

What a great year last year was, and I really hope Sexton comes back to race this season and puts the coals to her

TbonesPop wrote:
To be fair, outside of Pala 2 with Chase, High Point is the only time Jett was pushed speed wise, due to Kenny deciding to race. ...

To be fair, outside of Pala 2 with Chase, High Point is the only time Jett was pushed speed wise, due to Kenny deciding to race.  And while he still went 1-1, he did go down in a moto.  Just goes to show that when pushed to a higher limit, the best of the best will still make mistakes.  I have no doubt that if Chase were 100% right now and he and Jett were racing each other, Jett would be borking it up here and there too - just like when Eli and Chase had their moments last year.  Without Ken, Chase, or Eli to push Jett the other riders just aren't fast enough to push him at an uncomfortable pace.  

 

As fans, we need Chase in the outdoors ASAP.

This year has probably been the biggest bummer of a year for me in a long time.  Not only is Chase injured, but Eli, at the top of his game on the verge of clinching another title, was injured and it has taken him out of the outdoors.  Seeing Jett, Chase and Eli would have been the coolest thing ever.  

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