Sur Ron - talk me out of it

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dcg141 5/18/2023 11:03am
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There is possibly something coming pretty soon that will give you Sur Ron buyers remorse. I've see photos and talked to people that have ridden them. There will be a US dealer network already in place for them.

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dcg141 wrote:
There is possibly something coming pretty soon that will give you Sur Ron buyers remorse. I've see photos and talked to people that have ridden them...

There is possibly something coming pretty soon that will give you Sur Ron buyers remorse. I've see photos and talked to people that have ridden them. There will be a US dealer network already in place for them.

Interesting...I showed my wife videos of these and she really wants one, it's definitely for her, no yeah for sure.

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dcg141 5/18/2023 7:54pm
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dcg141 wrote:
There is possibly something coming pretty soon that will give you Sur Ron buyers remorse. I've see photos and talked to people that have ridden them...

There is possibly something coming pretty soon that will give you Sur Ron buyers remorse. I've see photos and talked to people that have ridden them. There will be a US dealer network already in place for them.

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Interesting...I showed my wife videos of these and she really wants one, it's definitely for her, no yeah for sure.

Interesting...I showed my wife videos of these and she really wants one, it's definitely for her, no yeah for sure.

I can't tell your for sure its happening but I committed to stocking them if it does. 

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dcg141 wrote:

I can't tell your for sure its happening but I committed to stocking them if it does. 

Possible to share a rough description of specs?

Thanks,

BP

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dcg141 wrote:

I can't tell your for sure its happening but I committed to stocking them if it does. 

Is it similar size to a sur ron or bigger?

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dcg141 wrote:

I can't tell your for sure its happening but I committed to stocking them if it does. 

Brtp4 wrote:

Possible to share a rough description of specs?

Thanks,

BP

Roughly same size as the Sur Ron and in the same price range. Stronger engine and bigger battery. Comes with full size dirt bike wheels and tires. Much much better ergonomics.

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Tricky_Ricky.Stern 5/19/2023 10:20am
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dcg141 wrote:

I can't tell your for sure its happening but I committed to stocking them if it does. 

Brtp4 wrote:

Possible to share a rough description of specs?

Thanks,

BP

dcg141 wrote:
Roughly same size as the Sur Ron and in the same price range. Stronger engine and bigger battery. Comes with full size dirt bike wheels and...

Roughly same size as the Sur Ron and in the same price range. Stronger engine and bigger battery. Comes with full size dirt bike wheels and tires. Much much better ergonomics.

that would be cool, i always wondered if the stock brakes and wheels would hold up to abuse on the surrons. Did the OP ever post if he got a bike or not?

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Jeremy Macduff wrote:
Sur Ron’s are a blast. Just steer clear of those agro mountain biker clickety clacker fags and their precious trails. If you so much as move...

Sur Ron’s are a blast. Just steer clear of those agro mountain biker clickety clacker fags and their precious trails. If you so much as move a pebble on “their” trails, you’ll be up shit creek and they’ll complain on PinkBike and MTBR.com and then go cry to their wives and girlfriends, and boyfriends that they have to negotiate ruts and pebbles in their pristine trails.

If you knew how precarious access is for some of these trails you'd understand. The trails I've been volunteering at for the last 15 years are on DNR property, and they're already semi-hostile towards us mountain bikers. They're looking for a reason to shut the trail system down. Now I got some 13yo genius out there ripping the place up on a freaking Surron and I'm trying to get out in front of this before DNR gets involved.

I (like many others) have hundreds of hours of volunteer time devoted to maintaining our trails, and to have some dipshit like yourself selfishly poach them for you temporary pleasure gets us a little riled-up. But you strike me as someone who has the same mentality as that 13yo, so I'm sure you don't understand the gravity of all this. Have fun on your Power Wheels.

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dcg141 wrote:

I can't tell your for sure its happening but I committed to stocking them if it does. 

Brtp4 wrote:

Possible to share a rough description of specs?

Thanks,

BP

dcg141 wrote:
Roughly same size as the Sur Ron and in the same price range. Stronger engine and bigger battery. Comes with full size dirt bike wheels and...

Roughly same size as the Sur Ron and in the same price range. Stronger engine and bigger battery. Comes with full size dirt bike wheels and tires. Much much better ergonomics.

Is it going to be Chinese manufacturing still ?

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Brad Company 5/19/2023 1:55pm
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Brtp4 wrote:

Possible to share a rough description of specs?

Thanks,

BP

dcg141 wrote:
Roughly same size as the Sur Ron and in the same price range. Stronger engine and bigger battery. Comes with full size dirt bike wheels and...

Roughly same size as the Sur Ron and in the same price range. Stronger engine and bigger battery. Comes with full size dirt bike wheels and tires. Much much better ergonomics.

Tricky_Ricky.Stern wrote:
that would be cool, i always wondered if the stock brakes and wheels would hold up to abuse on the surrons. Did the OP ever post...

that would be cool, i always wondered if the stock brakes and wheels would hold up to abuse on the surrons. Did the OP ever post if he got a bike or not?

My rims have held up just fine, brakes are shitty but new pads help. 

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Brtp4 wrote:

Possible to share a rough description of specs?

Thanks,

BP

dcg141 wrote:
Roughly same size as the Sur Ron and in the same price range. Stronger engine and bigger battery. Comes with full size dirt bike wheels and...

Roughly same size as the Sur Ron and in the same price range. Stronger engine and bigger battery. Comes with full size dirt bike wheels and tires. Much much better ergonomics.

Brad Company wrote:

Is it going to be Chinese manufacturing still ?

I'm not sure but given the price I would guess yes. Shooting for an October release date.

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burn1986 5/19/2023 4:42pm
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The thing about the Talaria and Surron is they’re like motorized Mountain bikes - light nimble, easy to play around on or commute short distances. The bigger and heavier you go, it defeats the purpose of what makes these bikes so much fun and practical.

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dcg141 wrote:

I can't tell your for sure its happening but I committed to stocking them if it does. 

Brtp4 wrote:

Possible to share a rough description of specs?

Thanks,

BP

dcg141 wrote:
Roughly same size as the Sur Ron and in the same price range. Stronger engine and bigger battery. Comes with full size dirt bike wheels and...

Roughly same size as the Sur Ron and in the same price range. Stronger engine and bigger battery. Comes with full size dirt bike wheels and tires. Much much better ergonomics.

So I ordered units this morning. Look for a press release soon. I have more specs. 40 mph top speed, 2 levels 50-100 miles in level 1 and 30 -60 on level 2. 2-3 hours recharge time on 115V. USD fork adjustable. Comp and rebound and preload adjustable shock. 150 lbs.  21/19 wheel combo. $4690 MSRP Available in October. BTW there is going to be a major press release from this same mfg possibly today on another subject.

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burn1986 6/2/2023 9:17am
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dcg141 wrote:
So I ordered units this morning. Look for a press release soon. I have more specs. 40 mph top speed, 2 levels 50-100 miles in level...

So I ordered units this morning. Look for a press release soon. I have more specs. 40 mph top speed, 2 levels 50-100 miles in level 1 and 30 -60 on level 2. 2-3 hours recharge time on 115V. USD fork adjustable. Comp and rebound and preload adjustable shock. 150 lbs.  21/19 wheel combo. $4690 MSRP Available in October. BTW there is going to be a major press release from this same mfg possibly today on another subject.

Why the cloak and dagger? No one’s really watching this thread anyway. 

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dcg141 wrote:
So I ordered units this morning. Look for a press release soon. I have more specs. 40 mph top speed, 2 levels 50-100 miles in level...

So I ordered units this morning. Look for a press release soon. I have more specs. 40 mph top speed, 2 levels 50-100 miles in level 1 and 30 -60 on level 2. 2-3 hours recharge time on 115V. USD fork adjustable. Comp and rebound and preload adjustable shock. 150 lbs.  21/19 wheel combo. $4690 MSRP Available in October. BTW there is going to be a major press release from this same mfg possibly today on another subject.

burn1986 wrote:

Why the cloak and dagger? No one’s really watching this thread anyway. 

I'm a dealer and I only takes the wrong person to see this and get me in hot water. I think the announcement is coming soon. It was on our dealer order site today so I'm sure they will have the info out soon.

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Get the Talaria! Best 4500 I ever wasted. LOVE IT!

Selling all of my pit bikes.

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MxMickyV wrote:

Get the Talaria! Best 4500 I ever wasted. LOVE IT!

Selling all of my pit bikes.

Everyone who has gotten one said it feels like a Surron with all the upgraded parts but better.
 

There has been a problem with the Talaria slipping into “reverse”, though.

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MxMickyV wrote:

Get the Talaria! Best 4500 I ever wasted. LOVE IT!

Selling all of my pit bikes.

burn1986 wrote:
Everyone who has gotten one said it feels like a Surron with all the upgraded parts but better.   There has been a problem with the...

Everyone who has gotten one said it feels like a Surron with all the upgraded parts but better.
 

There has been a problem with the Talaria slipping into “reverse”, though.

Those people must have upgraded controllers then because the stock Talaria setup is terrible.  The Surron is just a solid bike that works, you can ride it stock (aside from upgrading to roller bearings for the head set that’s a must) and have all the fun you need on it without any need to upgrade electronics.  The Talaria sounds better in theory but I’m telling you guys in real life it’s not the case.  The stock linkage is sloppy as hell as well on the Talarias, be forewarned.  

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Brtp4 wrote:

Possible to share a rough description of specs?

Thanks,

BP

dcg141 wrote:
Roughly same size as the Sur Ron and in the same price range. Stronger engine and bigger battery. Comes with full size dirt bike wheels and...

Roughly same size as the Sur Ron and in the same price range. Stronger engine and bigger battery. Comes with full size dirt bike wheels and tires. Much much better ergonomics.

Tricky_Ricky.Stern wrote:
that would be cool, i always wondered if the stock brakes and wheels would hold up to abuse on the surrons. Did the OP ever post...

that would be cool, i always wondered if the stock brakes and wheels would hold up to abuse on the surrons. Did the OP ever post if he got a bike or not?

Ordered a few; they’re on the boat.

dcg141 - the new Talaria R?

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MxMickyV wrote:

Get the Talaria! Best 4500 I ever wasted. LOVE IT!

Selling all of my pit bikes.

burn1986 wrote:
Everyone who has gotten one said it feels like a Surron with all the upgraded parts but better.   There has been a problem with the...

Everyone who has gotten one said it feels like a Surron with all the upgraded parts but better.
 

There has been a problem with the Talaria slipping into “reverse”, though.

JM485 wrote:
Those people must have upgraded controllers then because the stock Talaria setup is terrible.  The Surron is just a solid bike that works, you can ride...

Those people must have upgraded controllers then because the stock Talaria setup is terrible.  The Surron is just a solid bike that works, you can ride it stock (aside from upgrading to roller bearings for the head set that’s a must) and have all the fun you need on it without any need to upgrade electronics.  The Talaria sounds better in theory but I’m telling you guys in real life it’s not the case.  The stock linkage is sloppy as hell as well on the Talarias, be forewarned.  

I've got a talaria with nearly 700 miles.

Broke the stock chain and left footpeg bracket.

Linkage did need grease when new, no slop at 700 miles. 

Had to replace the stock forks after about 300 miles. Striction got hilariously bad. Rebuild didn't help, now have Marzocchi 888r on there. Blew those too. 

Bike has been rock solid otherwise. No issues at all with battery motor or controller. Electronics have been working great. Everything is stock electronically. 

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tingo wrote:

Ordered a few; they’re on the boat.

dcg141 - the new Talaria R?

No the unit I have coming looks nothing like that. Pretty sure they are not making it.

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Dirtymutt9 wrote:
I've got a talaria with nearly 700 miles. Broke the stock chain and left footpeg bracket. Linkage did need grease when new, no slop at 700...

I've got a talaria with nearly 700 miles.

Broke the stock chain and left footpeg bracket.

Linkage did need grease when new, no slop at 700 miles. 

Had to replace the stock forks after about 300 miles. Striction got hilariously bad. Rebuild didn't help, now have Marzocchi 888r on there. Blew those too. 

Bike has been rock solid otherwise. No issues at all with battery motor or controller. Electronics have been working great. Everything is stock electronically. 

Do you mean you blew the seals on the forks?

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Where do you sur ron guys keep your purses on rides?

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I wanna get one so bad. They make a pedal kit you can install for “compliance” which technically makes it an e-bicycle and you dont need a plate to ride it on the street.
 

Obviously for hitting the track a regular dirt bike cant be beat but when you just wanna screw around and have some fun by the house these things are silent so nobody even notices, sounds like a pretty good deal. 

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Dirtymutt9 wrote:
I've got a talaria with nearly 700 miles. Broke the stock chain and left footpeg bracket. Linkage did need grease when new, no slop at 700...

I've got a talaria with nearly 700 miles.

Broke the stock chain and left footpeg bracket.

Linkage did need grease when new, no slop at 700 miles. 

Had to replace the stock forks after about 300 miles. Striction got hilariously bad. Rebuild didn't help, now have Marzocchi 888r on there. Blew those too. 

Bike has been rock solid otherwise. No issues at all with battery motor or controller. Electronics have been working great. Everything is stock electronically. 

Have you ridden any other e-bikes to have a reference point though?  I’m not saying you’re going to burn up the controller or have a failure, it’s just not tuned well compared to others. 

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Dirtymutt9 wrote:
I've got a talaria with nearly 700 miles. Broke the stock chain and left footpeg bracket. Linkage did need grease when new, no slop at 700...

I've got a talaria with nearly 700 miles.

Broke the stock chain and left footpeg bracket.

Linkage did need grease when new, no slop at 700 miles. 

Had to replace the stock forks after about 300 miles. Striction got hilariously bad. Rebuild didn't help, now have Marzocchi 888r on there. Blew those too. 

Bike has been rock solid otherwise. No issues at all with battery motor or controller. Electronics have been working great. Everything is stock electronically. 

burn1986 wrote:

Do you mean you blew the seals on the forks?

the seals blew at one point but the big issue was "sticktion". the forks would require a ton of force to slide up and down. even taking them apart and servicing them didnt help for long

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Dirtymutt9 wrote:
I've got a talaria with nearly 700 miles. Broke the stock chain and left footpeg bracket. Linkage did need grease when new, no slop at 700...

I've got a talaria with nearly 700 miles.

Broke the stock chain and left footpeg bracket.

Linkage did need grease when new, no slop at 700 miles. 

Had to replace the stock forks after about 300 miles. Striction got hilariously bad. Rebuild didn't help, now have Marzocchi 888r on there. Blew those too. 

Bike has been rock solid otherwise. No issues at all with battery motor or controller. Electronics have been working great. Everything is stock electronically. 

JM485 wrote:
Have you ridden any other e-bikes to have a reference point though?  I’m not saying you’re going to burn up the controller or have a failure...

Have you ridden any other e-bikes to have a reference point though?  I’m not saying you’re going to burn up the controller or have a failure, it’s just not tuned well compared to others. 

I rode a completely stock surron. Its the reason i got a talaria. the surron was a blast.

The geared transmission vs the belt was why i went talaria. the surron throttle curve is better than the talaria for sure. Im the only one in my friend group that has one. 

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