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stremme12 5/25/2023 9:17am
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Coach529 wrote:

True, but has anybody gotten off the KTM and got on another brand and got any better results?

stremme12 wrote:

Shane McElrath results were way better when he switched from KTM to the Star program. I believe your son does his vlogs correct? Ask him.

Coach529 wrote:

He is the one and only that greatly improved after leaving KTM (TLD). I cannot think of any others.

I don't believe so. Justin Hill won his regional title the year after he left the Factory KTM team. 

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suspensionguy 5/25/2023 9:18am
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If that’s true I am surprised Vialle signed up to come over and get shuffled to a satellite team like that. To be fair, he could...

If that’s true I am surprised Vialle signed up to come over and get shuffled to a satellite team like that.

To be fair, he could have been unaware/it’s a new development, he may have a provision in his contract ensuring he stays under the factory awning, or he might be planning on being on a 450 by the time it occurs…if it’s true at all.

And this comment isn’t to besmirch the folks at ClubMX, they seem to be picking up steam and have a cool program going, but it seems like it would be an odd move for a multi-time World Champion that just joined the US series.

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I dunno, would it really be a step backwards?  The Factory KTM 250 Team hasn't exactly had a resume full of wins.....really none if you take...

I dunno, would it really be a step backwards?  The Factory KTM 250 Team hasn't exactly had a resume full of wins.....really none if you take Marv & Kenny out of the equation....beyond those 2 it's been a place where 250 careers go to get knocked down a peg.

Which is pretty ironic given that most here think ol' Rog walks on water and anyone who rides for him is destined to be a champion due to his powers Tongue

Coach529 wrote:

True, but has anybody gotten off the KTM and got on another brand and got any better results?

Ken Roczen and Webb could be next if rumors are true. 

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LungButter wrote:
I dunno, would it really be a step backwards?  The Factory KTM 250 Team hasn't exactly had a resume full of wins.....really none if you take...

I dunno, would it really be a step backwards?  The Factory KTM 250 Team hasn't exactly had a resume full of wins.....really none if you take Marv & Kenny out of the equation....beyond those 2 it's been a place where 250 careers go to get knocked down a peg.

Which is pretty ironic given that most here think ol' Rog walks on water and anyone who rides for him is destined to be a champion due to his powers Tongue

Coach529 wrote:

True, but has anybody gotten off the KTM and got on another brand and got any better results?

suspensionguy wrote:

Ken Roczen and Webb could be next if rumors are true. 

How much better can Webb do? 3 championships?

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Coach529 5/25/2023 1:29pm
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stremme12 wrote:

Shane McElrath results were way better when he switched from KTM to the Star program. I believe your son does his vlogs correct? Ask him.

Coach529 wrote:

He is the one and only that greatly improved after leaving KTM (TLD). I cannot think of any others.

stremme12 wrote:

I don't believe so. Justin Hill won his regional title the year after he left the Factory KTM team. 

Yup.....that is correct as well.

Good Catch!!

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tweedleD 6/1/2023 8:25am
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With Enzo going back to Club, Vohland to Star, and Mosiman ultimately out at TLD. Its seems like the Austrian group might be struggling to find talent...

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uncledaddy69 6/1/2023 8:40am
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tweedleD wrote:
With Enzo going back to Club, Vohland to Star, and Mosiman ultimately out at TLD. Its seems like the Austrian group might be struggling to find...

With Enzo going back to Club, Vohland to Star, and Mosiman ultimately out at TLD. Its seems like the Austrian group might be struggling to find talent...

Ryder D is probably going to fill one of the spots you mentioned.

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Where will mosiman go?

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soggy 6/1/2023 8:45am
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tweedleD wrote:
With Enzo going back to Club, Vohland to Star, and Mosiman ultimately out at TLD. Its seems like the Austrian group might be struggling to find...

With Enzo going back to Club, Vohland to Star, and Mosiman ultimately out at TLD. Its seems like the Austrian group might be struggling to find talent...

Vohland is not locked in at star. He could end up back at ktm. 

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GrapeApe 6/1/2023 8:53am
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tweedleD wrote:
With Enzo going back to Club, Vohland to Star, and Mosiman ultimately out at TLD. Its seems like the Austrian group might be struggling to find...

With Enzo going back to Club, Vohland to Star, and Mosiman ultimately out at TLD. Its seems like the Austrian group might be struggling to find talent...

Isn't Kitchen rumored to be going to KTM? Kitchen, Vialle and Beaumer would be a much improved team.

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stremme12 6/1/2023 8:53am
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tweedleD wrote:
With Enzo going back to Club, Vohland to Star, and Mosiman ultimately out at TLD. Its seems like the Austrian group might be struggling to find...

With Enzo going back to Club, Vohland to Star, and Mosiman ultimately out at TLD. Its seems like the Austrian group might be struggling to find talent...

GrapeApe wrote:

Isn't Kitchen rumored to be going to KTM? Kitchen, Vialle and Beaumer would be a much improved team.

Kitchen to PC.

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GrapeApe 6/1/2023 8:57am
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tweedleD wrote:
With Enzo going back to Club, Vohland to Star, and Mosiman ultimately out at TLD. Its seems like the Austrian group might be struggling to find...

With Enzo going back to Club, Vohland to Star, and Mosiman ultimately out at TLD. Its seems like the Austrian group might be struggling to find talent...

GrapeApe wrote:

Isn't Kitchen rumored to be going to KTM? Kitchen, Vialle and Beaumer would be a much improved team.

stremme12 wrote:

Kitchen to PC.

Well screw me.

Still I wouldn't be surprised if Beaumer finishes ahead of Vohland as a rookie, at least in SX.

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stremme12 6/1/2023 8:59am
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GrapeApe wrote:

Isn't Kitchen rumored to be going to KTM? Kitchen, Vialle and Beaumer would be a much improved team.

stremme12 wrote:

Kitchen to PC.

GrapeApe wrote:

Well screw me.

Still I wouldn't be surprised if Beaumer finishes ahead of Vohland as a rookie, at least in SX.

I agree with Beaumer could be good as a rookie. Not sure if i've heard whether he will go Pro for Supercross or Motocross though. 

I'm curious where Reynolds ends up. I didn't think his Pala ride was too bad. 

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Cortami79 wrote:

Where will mosiman go?

Rumors point to Triumph with Swoll and Ferry. 

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tweedleD 6/1/2023 9:24am
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Cortami79 wrote:

Where will mosiman go?

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Rumors point to Triumph with Swoll and Ferry. 

Thats a terrible pick up IMO. Unless he can get back to his old ways it seems his time has come and gone. Would like to see where Mumford ends up in 24.

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mb60 6/1/2023 12:21pm
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KTM and Husky will both be looking for riders if the rumors are true. Ryder D to Gas Gas according to Mathes. 

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GrapeApe 6/1/2023 2:43pm
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mb60 wrote:

KTM and Husky will both be looking for riders if the rumors are true. Ryder D to Gas Gas according to Mathes. 

KTM - Vialle, Beaumer

Husky - Hampshire, Hawkins

GasGas - Brown, Ryder D

Unless one of the teams expands, which I doubt, it seems they are set.

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mb60 wrote:

KTM and Husky will both be looking for riders if the rumors are true. Ryder D to Gas Gas according to Mathes. 

GrapeApe wrote:
KTM - Vialle, Beaumer Husky - Hampshire, Hawkins GasGas - Brown, Ryder D Unless one of the teams expands, which I doubt, it seems they are...

KTM - Vialle, Beaumer

Husky - Hampshire, Hawkins

GasGas - Brown, Ryder D

Unless one of the teams expands, which I doubt, it seems they are set.

Is Hawkins signed for 2024? 

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MX Culture 6/1/2023 3:03pm
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mb60 wrote:

KTM and Husky will both be looking for riders if the rumors are true. Ryder D to Gas Gas according to Mathes. 

GrapeApe wrote:
KTM - Vialle, Beaumer Husky - Hampshire, Hawkins GasGas - Brown, Ryder D Unless one of the teams expands, which I doubt, it seems they are...

KTM - Vialle, Beaumer

Husky - Hampshire, Hawkins

GasGas - Brown, Ryder D

Unless one of the teams expands, which I doubt, it seems they are set.

stremme12 wrote:

Is Hawkins signed for 2024? 

I heard at Salt Lake that Hawkins was looking for a ride.  

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decano51 6/1/2023 3:48pm
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when hunter moves to 450..

Does Yarrivs Honda team take on the 250 program and HRC are back to just 450 only? or does HRC pick up another 250 rider to join Hymes

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uncledaddy69 6/1/2023 3:51pm
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decano51 wrote:
when hunter moves to 450.. Does Yarrivs Honda team take on the 250 program and HRC are back to just 450 only? or does HRC pick...

when hunter moves to 450..

Does Yarrivs Honda team take on the 250 program and HRC are back to just 450 only? or does HRC pick up another 250 rider to join Hymes

Shimoda to HRC 250 seems to be a done deal. I heard Phoenix racing was taking over the 250 team in 2025, but not sure how that affects Jo and Hymas. 

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brian2715 6/1/2023 3:55pm
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decano51 wrote:
when hunter moves to 450.. Does Yarrivs Honda team take on the 250 program and HRC are back to just 450 only? or does HRC pick...

when hunter moves to 450..

Does Yarrivs Honda team take on the 250 program and HRC are back to just 450 only? or does HRC pick up another 250 rider to join Hymes

It's Phoenix Racing not Firepower taking the 250 team. At least as far as the rumor mill goes...

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decano51 6/1/2023 4:16pm
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decano51 wrote:
when hunter moves to 450.. Does Yarrivs Honda team take on the 250 program and HRC are back to just 450 only? or does HRC pick...

when hunter moves to 450..

Does Yarrivs Honda team take on the 250 program and HRC are back to just 450 only? or does HRC pick up another 250 rider to join Hymes

brian2715 wrote:

It's Phoenix Racing not Firepower taking the 250 team. At least as far as the rumor mill goes...

argh yes, interesting. hope HRC keeps the 250 efforts 

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mb60 6/1/2023 4:49pm
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GrapeApe wrote:
KTM - Vialle, Beaumer Husky - Hampshire, Hawkins GasGas - Brown, Ryder D Unless one of the teams expands, which I doubt, it seems they are...

KTM - Vialle, Beaumer

Husky - Hampshire, Hawkins

GasGas - Brown, Ryder D

Unless one of the teams expands, which I doubt, it seems they are set.

Hawkins is not doing a factory ride no justice. Surely they are looking for something more. 

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GrapeApe 6/1/2023 4:59pm
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GrapeApe wrote:
KTM - Vialle, Beaumer Husky - Hampshire, Hawkins GasGas - Brown, Ryder D Unless one of the teams expands, which I doubt, it seems they are...

KTM - Vialle, Beaumer

Husky - Hampshire, Hawkins

GasGas - Brown, Ryder D

Unless one of the teams expands, which I doubt, it seems they are set.

mb60 wrote:

Hawkins is not doing a factory ride no justice. Surely they are looking for something more. 

I agree, but they just need someone to keep the seat warm until Cochran moves up.

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NSP139 6/1/2023 5:27pm
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GrapeApe wrote:
KTM - Vialle, Beaumer Husky - Hampshire, Hawkins GasGas - Brown, Ryder D Unless one of the teams expands, which I doubt, it seems they are...

KTM - Vialle, Beaumer

Husky - Hampshire, Hawkins

GasGas - Brown, Ryder D

Unless one of the teams expands, which I doubt, it seems they are set.

mb60 wrote:

Hawkins is not doing a factory ride no justice. Surely they are looking for something more. 

GrapeApe wrote:

I agree, but they just need someone to keep the seat warm until Cochran moves up.

I believe Hawkins came up a year early to fill in for some injured Riders maybe not a good choice.

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Jack_4196 6/1/2023 5:44pm
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Does anyone know what OEM club mx was talking to? 

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ML512 6/1/2023 7:43pm
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Jack_4196 wrote:

Does anyone know what OEM club mx was talking to? 

KTM group. Sounds more likely that they'll stay Yamaha though.

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Jett Reynolds is in a contract year, hoping he gets another shot now that he is finally healthy. 

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Matthes mentioned on Twitter last night that there would be a rider announcement today

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Plessinger is back with KTM for 24

That’s a good thing

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