Huge shoutout to Ryan and No Toil!!!

rmracer289
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I have been using their products for years and never had an issue. The last bottle of filter oil I purchased I have been having an issue with the filter oil not setting up and running off the filter. I made a post in the tech forum because I’ve never had this issue and was curious if it had gone bad or was just possibly a bad batch. Ryan with No Toil reached out to me and asked me if he could send me a replacement. Well, the package arrived today and not only did I get oil, but also some cleaner, rim grease, and new filters for BOTH of my bikes! Very grateful for all of this and never would have expected any of this. Thank you to Ryan and No Toil! 
 

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LittleDragon
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5/29/2023 6:11pm

Ryan and my two brothers are close friends, Ryan was in the older ones wedding.  Great guy

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5/29/2023 6:46pm

Very cool, I've been using NoToil for 20+ yrs now, never a problem. Good to know they have good customer support. 

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OldnBroken
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5/29/2023 8:59pm

That’s crazy. I was going to contact them because for the last year or so I’ve had oil not setting up and dripping all over my floor. Mine is not Red either, more of a yellow/amber colour. I just thought I was over oiling them. I’ve been using this oil since 2002 or 3 I think. Love it. 

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gscx
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5/29/2023 9:25pm

I am having this problem now as well, it was never a problem before. I bought the oil about 6 months ago. I haven't been able the ride much, but it drips off badly. I am hoping it was just a bad batch and when I get another bottle there won't be an issues. I mix it up well before use too.

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5/29/2023 10:03pm

Ryan is the man. No toil has top notch customer service which is why I support them

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MotofactioN
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5/29/2023 11:09pm

I just had some maxima filter oil do this Huh

Polish Power
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5/30/2023 6:42am

Last year I had a similar issue after I oiled up a new filter on my 21 yz450. I thought I had an oil leak on the engine lol.... until i figured out that it was dripping from the air filter on hotter days. I started questioning my filter oiling methods and maybe I had put too much on and didnt squeeze out the excess enough, but ive been doing this for 20 yrs lol. It still continued to seep out, but as long as I knew what it was, I wasnt worried about it. Ive been using their products since 2019 and love how easy the air filters cleanup. Im not looking for any freebies, but just sharing that the OP isnt the only one that noticed this. 

Glad to hear they hooked you up!

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10/29/2023 9:50am

Bump, does anyone have contact with Ryan.? I've been having issues with the oil running off, and it seems it's not isolated incident. 

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rmracer289
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10/29/2023 10:55am
Bruce372 wrote:

Bump, does anyone have contact with Ryan.? I've been having issues with the oil running off, and it seems it's not isolated incident. 

I’ll be honest even using the new oil that was sent to me I continued having this issue. I decided to start using a different oil. Not sure if they changed their formula or what but it definitely wasn’t an isolated incident. What Ryan did for me was above and beyond and I’m very grateful, and they seem like a great company that truly cares about their customers. I have had great success with their products for years but I decided I had to make a change. 

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OldnBroken
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10/29/2023 11:17am
Bruce372 wrote:

Bump, does anyone have contact with Ryan.? I've been having issues with the oil running off, and it seems it's not isolated incident. 

rmracer289 wrote:
I’ll be honest even using the new oil that was sent to me I continued having this issue. I decided to start using a different oil...

I’ll be honest even using the new oil that was sent to me I continued having this issue. I decided to start using a different oil. Not sure if they changed their formula or what but it definitely wasn’t an isolated incident. What Ryan did for me was above and beyond and I’m very grateful, and they seem like a great company that truly cares about their customers. I have had great success with their products for years but I decided I had to make a change. 

Me too. Such a bummer after 20 years. 

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10/29/2023 12:18pm

I ran mount of my green oil and the local shop only had the red.   I used it on all my bikes and it made a huge mess.   Sticky stuff all over the linkage on my kx450.   Seemed like a screwed up batch or something because I’ve been fine with this stuff for 15 years until now.   

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10/29/2023 12:24pm

I have had the same issue this year as well , years prior not a problem. 

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10/29/2023 12:37pm

Funny this is being brought up, as me and another friend were talking about this very same issue last weekend. The red stuff is much more prone to doing this than the green stuff. Can’t oil up a filter and put it on the bike a couple days before riding unless you want to clean up your airbox and whatever else it eventually drips down onto, as well as remove the filter to properly spread the oil out again. Is it because one has alcohol in it and the other doesn’t maybe? It’s extremely annoying, but I still use it because it makes the filters easy to clean. 

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Brent
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10/29/2023 2:13pm

Pfft try to get 2023-2024 KTM air filters from them - NOPE!

No filters in stock

no power flow cages in stock.

Up until last week I couldn't even get spray filter oil from anyone.

Love the  No Toil product but had to switch to over priced Twin Air stuff 

 

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Bruce372
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10/29/2023 3:21pm

I had wondered if I was doing something wrong, so weird after running this stuff for two decades.

While I am not glad everyone is having issues, it made me feel better that I am not going crazy.

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10/29/2023 3:41pm

It seems they changed the red formulation as , it used to be actually red and lately it is more like orange and seems less sticky. I am back to green and all has been good

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10/29/2023 4:41pm

I had the same problem with the red, but no issues with the green.  I ended up switching to Maxima FFT. 

Polish Power
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10/29/2023 5:56pm

Im still having issues even after trying the green oil. I had the oil drip going on my 22 350sxf and left a nice sticky spot on the garage floor. I too liked how easy their product cleaned up, but it might be time to go back to pj1, twin air or maxima. 

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10/29/2023 6:12pm

Sucks to hear this from you guys. Over two decades of use for me and never one problem. Went through two filters over this weekend using red and still have a spotless airbox/airboot. 

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hititpind
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10/29/2023 6:47pm Edited Date/Time 10/29/2023 9:33pm

I use the green. It will drip off the filter unless you really squeeze it out. Even then it still wants to drip. If it wasn’t for the easy clean, I’d run twin air oil. Hopefully they can perfect it to be more tacky and stick to the filter.

10/29/2023 7:06pm
dansfx wrote:

I had the same problem with the red, but no issues with the green.  I ended up switching to Maxima FFT. 

I use maxima too. I oil 6 at one time and probably takes me 4-8 weeks to go through them all and never had a problem. 

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10/29/2023 7:30pm
Bruce372 wrote:

Bump, does anyone have contact with Ryan.? I've been having issues with the oil running off, and it seems it's not isolated incident. 

Ryan has unfortunately moved on from the No Toil family business. He is still helping out occasionally but has a new full time gig. 

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hititpind
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10/29/2023 7:37pm Edited Date/Time 10/29/2023 7:40pm

I use maxima too. I oil 6 at one time and probably takes me 4-8 weeks to go through them all and never had a problem. 

How easy is it to clean the maxima oil?

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10/29/2023 7:50pm
hititpind wrote:

How easy is it to clean the maxima oil?

It’s not. That’s why it works so good. Stickiest god damn substance on earth. 

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ace402
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10/29/2023 9:07pm

What a coincidence,  posted about this in the tech chat earlier today. Had no idea this post existed. I’m also moving on from No Toil. Bittersweet as I have used them for years and love the easy cleanup. Just sick of the oil running everywhere and my filters drying up.

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beamer
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10/30/2023 8:04am

I purchased a jug of the Red earlier this summer as my regular supplier didn't have the green at the time.

It definitely likes to leak everywhere, all the way back to the rear axle along the swingarm a couple times with what i feel was similar application like i have always done.

I'm just going to switch back to the green going forward, I'll never use anything else.

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10/30/2023 4:30pm
hititpind wrote:

How easy is it to clean the maxima oil?

I switched to maxima… super easy to clean. I bought the spray oil/cleaner combo to try it out and I was pretty happy with it. I just spray the filter inside and out with cleaner, work it in a little bit, rinse it in warm soapy water, and then rinse with water. 
 

I’ll spray the cleaner on and work it in outside, and then I’ll bring it in and wash it in the kitchen sink… the cleaner definitely has an order but my wife doesn’t complain lol. Reminds me of camping… kinda smells like mothballs lol. 

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10/30/2023 4:40pm

I also switched but I went with Belray and have been extremely happy with the results.  Plus the blue matches the frame on my husky so I get 3 extra vet dude points.

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10/30/2023 6:10pm
hititpind wrote:

How easy is it to clean the maxima oil?

rmracer289 wrote:
I switched to maxima… super easy to clean. I bought the spray oil/cleaner combo to try it out and I was pretty happy with it. I...

I switched to maxima… super easy to clean. I bought the spray oil/cleaner combo to try it out and I was pretty happy with it. I just spray the filter inside and out with cleaner, work it in a little bit, rinse it in warm soapy water, and then rinse with water. 
 

I’ll spray the cleaner on and work it in outside, and then I’ll bring it in and wash it in the kitchen sink… the cleaner definitely has an order but my wife doesn’t complain lol. Reminds me of camping… kinda smells like mothballs lol. 

Thanks! Good to know. Did you have any issues with No Toil letting dust by? 

10/30/2023 8:30pm

Well this has taken a turn in the wrong direction

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