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4/12/2023 12:24pm

I sent a letter to Feld... guess what they replied... nothing. lol

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Feld won't recognize this. If they did, it makes it a reality. Potentially blowing up in local or national news, hurting the sports credibility, sponsors, venues, etc. Feld will go silent about this just like years past. 

This stadium was built to keep 100+ degree weather out and cold air in... 

I'll say it again, move this race back to downtown phoenix. 

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4/12/2023 1:03pm Edited Date/Time 4/12/2023 1:06pm

Heard through the grapevine that as an act of good faith without admitting fault with what happened this last weekend in Glendale, Feld is offering to raise streaming service prices. 

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4/12/2023 1:04pm
GrapeApe wrote:
 

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chasetwo79 wrote:
Two things can be true at the same time. Yes there is pollen in AZ. No it did not cause the problems at the stadium this...

Two things can be true at the same time. Yes there is pollen in AZ. No it did not cause the problems at the stadium this past weekend. 

GrapeApe wrote:

I'm not saying pollen caused peoples' reactions, just trying to educate young rosso

Its a desert...Please show me where you find pollen produced by rocks and dirt...I'll wait. LOL

Definitely not a pollen issue. Its the same terrible venting they had at Minneapolis last year. Sounds like this one might have even been worse. Ours was in February...we don't have pollen in winter, so that excuse was out the window.

I hope someone's other post was a stretch. But they said "maybe they do some terrible venting on purpose to push future EV bikes in." And right now they don't talk about this venting issue. But as soon as EV starts coming around they'll talk about how awful these races were ventilated like they cared about it at the time, when they clearly don't take responsibility.

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4/12/2023 1:09pm
chasetwo79 wrote:
Two things can be true at the same time. Yes there is pollen in AZ. No it did not cause the problems at the stadium this...

Two things can be true at the same time. Yes there is pollen in AZ. No it did not cause the problems at the stadium this past weekend. 

GrapeApe wrote:

I'm not saying pollen caused peoples' reactions, just trying to educate young rosso

HonDawg17 wrote:
Its a desert...Please show me where you find pollen produced by rocks and dirt...I'll wait. LOL Definitely not a pollen issue. Its the same terrible venting...

Its a desert...Please show me where you find pollen produced by rocks and dirt...I'll wait. LOL

Definitely not a pollen issue. Its the same terrible venting they had at Minneapolis last year. Sounds like this one might have even been worse. Ours was in February...we don't have pollen in winter, so that excuse was out the window.

I hope someone's other post was a stretch. But they said "maybe they do some terrible venting on purpose to push future EV bikes in." And right now they don't talk about this venting issue. But as soon as EV starts coming around they'll talk about how awful these races were ventilated like they cared about it at the time, when they clearly don't take responsibility.

I'm not saying it was pollen that caused the problem at the race, but there's definitely more than rocks and dirt in AZ:

https://www.flagstaffarizona.org/blog/flagstaff-one-of-the-top-places-f…

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4/12/2023 1:14pm Edited Date/Time 4/12/2023 1:21pm
I'm not saying it was pollen that caused the problem at the race, but there's definitely more than rocks and dirt in AZ: https://www.flagstaffarizona.org/blog/flagstaff-one-of-the-top-places-for-forest-bathing/  

I'm not saying it was pollen that caused the problem at the race, but there's definitely more than rocks and dirt in AZ:

https://www.flagstaffarizona.org/blog/flagstaff-one-of-the-top-places-f…

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Cmon, Flagstaff and Phoenix are way different places with way different flora.

At Detroit there was a fairly thick exhaust haze above the track for the whole event, I could hear and see the hvac blowers running the whole time.

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4/12/2023 1:17pm Edited Date/Time 4/12/2023 1:19pm
chasetwo79 wrote:
Two things can be true at the same time. Yes there is pollen in AZ. No it did not cause the problems at the stadium this...

Two things can be true at the same time. Yes there is pollen in AZ. No it did not cause the problems at the stadium this past weekend. 

GrapeApe wrote:

I'm not saying pollen caused peoples' reactions, just trying to educate young rosso

HonDawg17 wrote:
Its a desert...Please show me where you find pollen produced by rocks and dirt...I'll wait. LOL Definitely not a pollen issue. Its the same terrible venting...

Its a desert...Please show me where you find pollen produced by rocks and dirt...I'll wait. LOL

Definitely not a pollen issue. Its the same terrible venting they had at Minneapolis last year. Sounds like this one might have even been worse. Ours was in February...we don't have pollen in winter, so that excuse was out the window.

I hope someone's other post was a stretch. But they said "maybe they do some terrible venting on purpose to push future EV bikes in." And right now they don't talk about this venting issue. But as soon as EV starts coming around they'll talk about how awful these races were ventilated like they cared about it at the time, when they clearly don't take responsibility.

Is there a grown up around that can help you read the pollen chart for Glendale, or to point out Arizona on the pollen map that was posted?

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mxracer71
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4/12/2023 2:06pm

I hate to say it,but right now the desert is blooming like crazy. This isn’t California deserts here. (I’m from ca and been in az almost two years) this time of the year everything is green,flowers everywhere. I don’t understand it but things grow like they are on steroids here. Yes there is pollen but this incident is not from it

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4/12/2023 2:10pm

"I'll say it again, move this race back to downtown phoenix. "

Yep 

Could not agree more skeef. The racing was so much better at Chase field. I cannot think of a good race that's been held in Glendale so far.

There were MANY epic bar banging drag out races at Chase and NEVER had this issue as they opened the freaking ROOF! 

 But unfortunately I do not think it will ever happened as the semi-haulers have just populated in numbers and size and it was a squeeze play for them.....Sad

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4/12/2023 2:49pm

Did you guys get to the bottom of it yet?

Part of the fun of trying to stay healthy through a Supercross season for everyone on the tour includes all the airports, flights, hotels; and stadiums filled with dust, exhaust, muffler packing particles, etc. 

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4/12/2023 3:06pm
GuyB wrote:
Did you guys get to the bottom of it yet? Part of the fun of trying to stay healthy through a Supercross season for everyone on...

Did you guys get to the bottom of it yet?

Part of the fun of trying to stay healthy through a Supercross season for everyone on the tour includes all the airports, flights, hotels; and stadiums filled with dust, exhaust, muffler packing particles, etc. 

Are you saying Glendale was totally normal and nothing to see here?

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GuyB wrote:
Did you guys get to the bottom of it yet? Part of the fun of trying to stay healthy through a Supercross season for everyone on...

Did you guys get to the bottom of it yet?

Part of the fun of trying to stay healthy through a Supercross season for everyone on the tour includes all the airports, flights, hotels; and stadiums filled with dust, exhaust, muffler packing particles, etc. 

Nothing comment. Should have just kept moving along. Posting in this thread is enough to show something wasn't right about this event. 

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4/12/2023 3:32pm
skeef wrote:

Nothing comment. Should have just kept moving along. Posting in this thread is enough to show something wasn't right about this event. 

You're right. Wasted some keystrokes. 

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whyZ wrote:
Heard through the grapevine that as an act of good faith without admitting fault with what happened this last weekend in Glendale, Feld is offering to...

Heard through the grapevine that as an act of good faith without admitting fault with what happened this last weekend in Glendale, Feld is offering to raise streaming service prices. 

They also gave Ricky tenure. 

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4/12/2023 4:00pm
GuyB wrote:
Did you guys get to the bottom of it yet? Part of the fun of trying to stay healthy through a Supercross season for everyone on...

Did you guys get to the bottom of it yet?

Part of the fun of trying to stay healthy through a Supercross season for everyone on the tour includes all the airports, flights, hotels; and stadiums filled with dust, exhaust, muffler packing particles, etc. 

Stop trying to normalize this. People were basically chemically poisoned. 

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4/12/2023 4:16pm

I didn't attend, but family and friends who did also were sick, migraines, couldn't breathe well, blood red eyes, cough, congestion for days. Far beyond allergies. We've lived in AZ all of our lives and have allergies... this wasn't it.  I've also heard of complaints of an odd smell that wasn't the norm exhaust smell. 

You all paid YOUR MONEY to these people with a reasonable expectation that they knew what they were doing and could maintain an environment to accommodate the fumes, firework smoke, etc safely. They accepted YOUR money and clearly did not keep their guests or their employees safe. All they had to do was to OPEN THE ROOF as a show of an attempt to do so. People getting conjunctival hemorrhages is not normal. (Really nice of the guy suggesting to wash your hands... place eye roll emoji here)  The guys/girls suggesting not to draw attention to this because the sport will get a bad rap or people/vendors will lose money. etc.... lol Do you think for one second anyone is going to quit hosting events and selling products over public complaints brought to media attention with the kind of revenue it brings in?  Please. You guys this is your health... ask questions, speak up for yourself.. 

Find out  why they allowed the roof to stay shut and have someone reach out to State Farm Stadium who can get an actual answer. I'm not saying this as a "punish the people responsible" post, but you can't expect it to be better next time if you don't help fix the problem. Call the City of Glendale and let them know there's a ventilation issue. Call a reporter who deals with sports events.. Elliott is a  reporter with Channel 3 and Channel 5... contact him. (elliot.polakoff@azfamily.com) I think if you agree to be interviewed he'll help find out what the heck went wrong here and WHY WASN'T THE ROOF OPENED? There's another motor event there this weekend and I'm sure lots of small kids will be there... speak up so they open the roof and other people/kiddos don't get sick. 

 

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4/12/2023 4:29pm

We can all only hope this goes big and puts Feld out of business. There will be some short term pain but a whole new series, under new management, is needed. Supercross will not get better under Feld. Flame on, but you know it's true. 

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4/12/2023 7:39pm

https://youtu.be/SyGcyyKpKnc

Clubmx racevlog, made from floor. Thick smoke haze in first 2 mains,looks less in last. 

Do the skidsteers and track leaders use off road diesel? 

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skeef wrote:

Nothing comment. Should have just kept moving along. Posting in this thread is enough to show something wasn't right about this event. 

GuyB wrote:

You're right. Wasted some keystrokes. 

You must be so glad to be done with these morans

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4/12/2023 8:31pm
YLLIBLLIH wrote:

https://youtu.be/SyGcyyKpKnc

Clubmx racevlog, made from floor. Thick smoke haze in first 2 mains,looks less in last. 

Do the skidsteers and track leaders use off road diesel? 

I thought the only difference was red dye?

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4/12/2023 9:10pm
YLLIBLLIH wrote:

https://youtu.be/SyGcyyKpKnc

Clubmx racevlog, made from floor. Thick smoke haze in first 2 mains,looks less in last. 

Do the skidsteers and track leaders use off road diesel? 

I thought the only difference was red dye?

Correct. Same fuel, dyed red so inspectors can tell if you’re running it on-road (no road taxes).

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4/12/2023 9:27pm
jjavaman wrote:

You must be so glad to be done with these morans

There are parts of my time at Vital that I don't miss. 😏

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4/13/2023 6:41am
YLLIBLLIH wrote:

https://youtu.be/SyGcyyKpKnc

Clubmx racevlog, made from floor. Thick smoke haze in first 2 mains,looks less in last. 

Do the skidsteers and track leaders use off road diesel? 

I thought the only difference was red dye?

PNWMXer wrote:

Correct. Same fuel, dyed red so inspectors can tell if you’re running it on-road (no road taxes).

Ok, I’ve never been to a sx that had a haze like that. Ax, yeah but not sx 

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4/13/2023 10:49am

I was at the Glendale race but didn't suffer any unusual symptoms. I'm also a native Arizonan and have the "usual" allergies. I noticed the smoke from the pre-race pyrotechnics lingered all night and also noticed the roof was only opened a small gap which I didn't understand why. We were in a loft so maybe the ventilation there kept it out for the most part. Anyway, I see this morning our area (just north of Tucson) is under a PM10 air alert. I did some checking on what that is and found this:

https://azdeq.gov/particulate-matter-pm10-and-pm25-pollution

Spring in AZ is usually rough on allergies, especially after the amount of rain we've had. I've never noticed the "PM10" thing before. I'm guessing the high particulate exposure we're experiencing along with the fireworks smoke, bike and equipment exhaust and dust amplified the effects on a lot of folks systems.

Who knows if opening the roof more would've helped or hurt the situation but more ventilation couldn't hurt. I hope everyone has recovered. Not what you need to experience by going to a SX race, for sure.

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4/13/2023 12:15pm

Didn't go, and now I'm kind glad I didn't.  If I remember correctly, or at least the last time I was there, didn't they have a section of the track that went outside the stadium and then back in after a slow-flat 180?  Looks like they didn't have that this time.  And curious if there was enough flow created that riders drew the lingering low-lying gases out with them when exiting and brought fresh air back in re-entering.    

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4/13/2023 12:57pm
GrapeApe wrote:

I'm not saying pollen caused peoples' reactions, just trying to educate young rosso

HonDawg17 wrote:
Its a desert...Please show me where you find pollen produced by rocks and dirt...I'll wait. LOL Definitely not a pollen issue. Its the same terrible venting...

Its a desert...Please show me where you find pollen produced by rocks and dirt...I'll wait. LOL

Definitely not a pollen issue. Its the same terrible venting they had at Minneapolis last year. Sounds like this one might have even been worse. Ours was in February...we don't have pollen in winter, so that excuse was out the window.

I hope someone's other post was a stretch. But they said "maybe they do some terrible venting on purpose to push future EV bikes in." And right now they don't talk about this venting issue. But as soon as EV starts coming around they'll talk about how awful these races were ventilated like they cared about it at the time, when they clearly don't take responsibility.

GrapeApe wrote:
Is there a grown up around that can help you read the pollen chart for Glendale, or to point out Arizona on the pollen map that...

Is there a grown up around that can help you read the pollen chart for Glendale, or to point out Arizona on the pollen map that was posted?

bRo, pollen doesn't do that to normal people that don't have allergies..

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4/13/2023 1:23pm Edited Date/Time 4/13/2023 1:26pm
HonDawg17 wrote:
Its a desert...Please show me where you find pollen produced by rocks and dirt...I'll wait. LOL Definitely not a pollen issue. Its the same terrible venting...

Its a desert...Please show me where you find pollen produced by rocks and dirt...I'll wait. LOL

Definitely not a pollen issue. Its the same terrible venting they had at Minneapolis last year. Sounds like this one might have even been worse. Ours was in February...we don't have pollen in winter, so that excuse was out the window.

I hope someone's other post was a stretch. But they said "maybe they do some terrible venting on purpose to push future EV bikes in." And right now they don't talk about this venting issue. But as soon as EV starts coming around they'll talk about how awful these races were ventilated like they cared about it at the time, when they clearly don't take responsibility.

GrapeApe wrote:
Is there a grown up around that can help you read the pollen chart for Glendale, or to point out Arizona on the pollen map that...

Is there a grown up around that can help you read the pollen chart for Glendale, or to point out Arizona on the pollen map that was posted?

HonDawg17 wrote:

bRo, pollen doesn't do that to normal people that don't have allergies..

Can you point me to where I said pollen caused their reactions?

Do you still believe there is no pollen in Arizona?

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mxracer71
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4/13/2023 2:09pm Edited Date/Time 4/13/2023 2:11pm

There is a shit ton of pollen right now in az. Everything and everything is blooming. Az deserts are not like so cal deserts. The deserts out here are orange,yellow,purple ect plus all the cactus are sprouting flowers. Trust me tons of plants and wildlife in the desert. For saying it’s just rocks and dirt is the typical stereotype morons which is fine,your prob think az has nothing to do. Go up the rode an hour and you’re in the pines,15 mins is the salt River where you can kayak and the mountain biking is way better here then so cal and that’s someone that spend 43 years in so cal

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semifreeguy
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4/13/2023 2:11pm

Someone please start a new thread for those that would like to discuss allergies. 

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4/13/2023 3:04pm

Someone please start a new thread for those that would like to discuss allergies. 

How about starting a thread for you clowns who didn't even go to the races but still have to bitch about it, you are worse than a damn woman bitching about stuff that doesn't even affect you. 

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