#2: MXGP of Sardegna - March 25-26

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Round two at the dunes of Riola Sardo. Additional classes are WMX and EMX250, who will start their seasons.


Timetable: https://docs2.mxgp.com/docs/2023_MXPG_of_Sardegna_Timetable.pdf

MXGP

https://docs2.mxgp.com/docs/2023_MXGP_of_Sardegna_Entry_List_MXGP.pdf

MX2

https://docs2.mxgp.com/docs/2023_MXGP_of_Sardegna_Entry_List_MX2.pdf

WMX

https://docs2.mxgp.com/docs/2023_MXGP_of_Sardegna_Entry_List_WMX.pdf

EMX250

https://docs2.mxgp.com/docs/2023_MXGP_of_Sardegna_Entry_List_EMX250.pdf

MXGP standings
1. Jorge Prado 50
2. Rubén Fernández 48
3. Romain Febvre 44
4. Jeffrey Herlings 41
5. Maxime Renaux 40
6. Pauls Jonass 36
7. Mattia Guadagnini 33
8. Calvin Vlaanderen 26
9. Glenn Coldenhoff 25
10. Jeremy Seewer 24

MX2 standings
1. Jago Geerts 60
2. Andrea Adamo 49
3. Thibault Benistant 41
4. Simon Längenfelder 37
5. Kevin Horgmo 36
6. Roan van de Moosdijk 36
7. Rick Elzinga 33
8. Kay de Wolf 31
9. Liam Everts 31
10. Jan Pancar 20

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3/20/2023 6:27am

Vlaanderen owned the place last year and he should do well again.

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3/20/2023 6:55am
Boomslang wrote:

Vlaanderen owned the place last year and he should do well again.

Yeah i don't think that will work  now that herlings is back

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3/20/2023 6:55am

What I find strange is that Gajser wasn't on entry list for Argentina MXGP, but now his name is there on Sardegna's entry list. Is he racing or MXGP has him there for no reason? Just to increase number of riders?

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3/20/2023 7:21am
Argaudas wrote:
What I find strange is that Gajser wasn't on entry list for Argentina MXGP, but now his name is there on Sardegna's entry list. Is he...

What I find strange is that Gajser wasn't on entry list for Argentina MXGP, but now his name is there on Sardegna's entry list. Is he racing or MXGP has him there for no reason? Just to increase number of riders?

No, he won't race. Nor will Scotty Verhaeghe in MX2, although he is listed.

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3/20/2023 8:03am

Damn... Only 26 riders in MXGP, 24 in MX2 and 46 in EMX250. And that is with entry fees at 300 euro and killing of EMX Open.

For comparison, first emx250 GP weekend in 2020 (the final pre-covid GP) at Valkenswaard had 40 entries in MXGP, 40 entries in MX2 and 96 (!) in EMX250. And that was with 1.000 euro per wildcard.

Not sure what is causing this, but tbh i had expected the numbers to be a lot better than this.

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3/20/2023 8:44am
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Damn... Only 26 riders in MXGP, 24 in MX2 and 46 in EMX250. And that is with entry fees at 300 euro and killing of EMX...

Damn... Only 26 riders in MXGP, 24 in MX2 and 46 in EMX250. And that is with entry fees at 300 euro and killing of EMX Open.

For comparison, first emx250 GP weekend in 2020 (the final pre-covid GP) at Valkenswaard had 40 entries in MXGP, 40 entries in MX2 and 96 (!) in EMX250. And that was with 1.000 euro per wildcard.

Not sure what is causing this, but tbh i had expected the numbers to be a lot better than this.

The costs to get there. Entries were low last year as well at Sardegna.

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3/20/2023 8:47am

Excited to see how Cannon and Van Drunen do in WMX this year

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3/20/2023 9:15am Edited Date/Time 3/20/2023 9:18am

The reduction in EMX250 may well be down to the age reduction to "21 and you're out",  this year. 

I'm seeing 54 EMX250s, and 30 MX2, at the moment. So, at least 84 250s may be there. Not including the WMX entries. 

Luongo may have thought the lower EMX250 age limit would would bring up MX2 entries, together with the far more reasonable entry fees. But no, he and his son, appear to have just limited the EMX250 attendance. That should have remained up to 23, and MX2 Should have No bloody age limit.

When will those f**kers realize they are so limiting the classes, and, sending riders away from the World Championships, back to, or Off to,  various Nationals? Never, it appears : Luongo so believes in his pyramid. 

Maybe lower early entries, so far, are partially due to Sardegna being a bit difficult to get to? I had some fun and games with both the GP I went to, and the Six Days in 2013. Are there any National races on this weekend?

It may just be an anomaly; entries for other mainland Euro GPs are said to be pretty good, and Luongo is saying they will apply the 52 (I think) riders per class limit. Indicating that he, at least, thinks all is well. Though, he's acted like that throughout his reign. There's an interview on his sycophants' site with him in the last few days.

Though, Perhaps we will see more 'wildcards', that may have late entries? People can procrastinate, unfortunately. 

Funnily enough, I think I saw the WMX entries, up around 35?

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3/20/2023 9:30am

Where do you see the 30 mx2? The official document that is in this topic has 25 riders?

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3/20/2023 9:44am
roninho wrote:

Where do you see the 30 mx2? The official document that is in this topic has 25 riders?

Just now, in the MXGP site.

I'm not arguing about 5 extra riders - I'm hoping that there will be a few more, and, that we are just seeing a bit of procrastination with entries. 

I know with myself, with more local to me events I participated in, I'd be a bit slack with pre- entry, but when it came to Interstate, or OS races, I was never going to 'wing it', with regards to acceptance, and travel. Though, I did turn up at the 98 World MTB Championships, without my International License. It had jumped ship during my racing in the USA. I had to hang around at sign in,  looking for the most casual, French speaking (so much for the Canadian Dual Language system - some of the Quebecois would  never   deign to speak or understand English, or, 'Strine)   Official, and bluff them with our then new, fancy schmancy Credit Card type OZ drivers license ....... Whistling

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3/20/2023 1:05pm

Vlaanderen looked spicy yesterday at the Dutch Masters, first moto came from the back off the pack to P4 with being the fastest most off the moto, second moto he closed a 7th second gap to Herlings with passing Febvre in between. Got a crash shortly after but his speed was really good.

If Vlaanderen can get his start sorted this weekend he could and should be a front runner. Same for Brent Van Doninck, he is also looking really good lately and is a good sand rider.

 

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3/20/2023 2:42pm

Can Herlings go for a win This weekend?

prado has been trainig a lot of sand with Smets in Belgium over the winter, he might just come out with 2nd in a row.?

3/20/2023 2:56pm

Picks anyone?

I have absolutely no idea again. Definitely didnt pick Fernandez to win last week

Here goes nothing

Prado
Herlings
Seewer
Reneaux
Febvre

De Wolf
Geerts
Längenfelder
v/d Moosdijk
Benistant

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crusty_xx wrote:
Picks anyone? I have absolutely no idea again. Definitely didnt pick Fernandez to win last week Here goes nothing Prado Herlings Seewer Reneaux Febvre De Wolf...

Picks anyone?

I have absolutely no idea again. Definitely didnt pick Fernandez to win last week

Here goes nothing

Prado
Herlings
Seewer
Reneaux
Febvre

De Wolf
Geerts
Längenfelder
v/d Moosdijk
Benistant

It is really open and hard to predict but i would be very surprised if there isnt at least 1 from the group of Vlaanderen, Bogers & van Doninck in the top 5. 

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3/21/2023 7:19am
crusty_xx wrote:
Picks anyone? I have absolutely no idea again. Definitely didnt pick Fernandez to win last week Here goes nothing Prado Herlings Seewer Reneaux Febvre De Wolf...

Picks anyone?

I have absolutely no idea again. Definitely didnt pick Fernandez to win last week

Here goes nothing

Prado
Herlings
Seewer
Reneaux
Febvre

De Wolf
Geerts
Längenfelder
v/d Moosdijk
Benistant

roninho wrote:
It is really open and hard to predict but i would be very surprised if there isnt at least 1 from the group of Vlaanderen, Bogers...

It is really open and hard to predict but i would be very surprised if there isnt at least 1 from the group of Vlaanderen, Bogers & van Doninck in the top 5. 

Yeah but which of my 5 do I keep out of the top 5 then? Pinch

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Fun fact: despite Vlaanderen dominating with a 1-1 last year, Prado actually set the fastest lap time on race day by almost a second.

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3/22/2023 1:19am
crusty_xx wrote:
Picks anyone? I have absolutely no idea again. Definitely didnt pick Fernandez to win last week Here goes nothing Prado Herlings Seewer Reneaux Febvre De Wolf...

Picks anyone?

I have absolutely no idea again. Definitely didnt pick Fernandez to win last week

Here goes nothing

Prado
Herlings
Seewer
Reneaux
Febvre

De Wolf
Geerts
Längenfelder
v/d Moosdijk
Benistant

roninho wrote:
It is really open and hard to predict but i would be very surprised if there isnt at least 1 from the group of Vlaanderen, Bogers...

It is really open and hard to predict but i would be very surprised if there isnt at least 1 from the group of Vlaanderen, Bogers & van Doninck in the top 5. 

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Yeah but which of my 5 do I keep out of the top 5 then? 

Yeah but which of my 5 do I keep out of the top 5 then? Pinch

Maybe Seewer. Seewer hasnt scored a top 3 moto at Lommel or Sardignia in the past 2 year (8 motos). 

I probably pick Seewer before i would pick van Doninck or Bogers. But 1 of Vlaanderen Bogers & van doninck imo has more chance to finish top 5 then Seewer. If that makes sense :-)

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3/22/2023 1:51am Edited Date/Time 3/22/2023 1:55am

I think Mattia Guadagnini could do well this weekend.

He could be the next Italian that might get a Championship. Not this year, but in the years to come.

Mattia's only about 20 / 21 years of age? So, with that and the team he's on, he has a good thing going on.

And, I'd like to see Seewer catch up in points, after his "I can Flyyyyyy" incident in Argentina. He's a very lucky bloke, not to have been really damaged in that prang.

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3/22/2023 2:35am
crusty_xx wrote:
Picks anyone? I have absolutely no idea again. Definitely didnt pick Fernandez to win last week Here goes nothing Prado Herlings Seewer Reneaux Febvre De Wolf...

Picks anyone?

I have absolutely no idea again. Definitely didnt pick Fernandez to win last week

Here goes nothing

Prado
Herlings
Seewer
Reneaux
Febvre

De Wolf
Geerts
Längenfelder
v/d Moosdijk
Benistant

Herlings 

Prado 

Vlaanderen 

Bogers 

Seewer

 

Geerts

De Wolf

Van De Moosdijk

Benistant

Langenfelder

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3/22/2023 2:42am
crusty_xx wrote:
Picks anyone? I have absolutely no idea again. Definitely didnt pick Fernandez to win last week Here goes nothing Prado Herlings Seewer Reneaux Febvre De Wolf...

Picks anyone?

I have absolutely no idea again. Definitely didnt pick Fernandez to win last week

Here goes nothing

Prado
Herlings
Seewer
Reneaux
Febvre

De Wolf
Geerts
Längenfelder
v/d Moosdijk
Benistant

That's not that hard herlings wins easy........in the mx2 i think jaco geerts wins or just maybe kay de wolf he has the speed if he says on his bike

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3/22/2023 2:50am

Mx1

 1 herlings  2 coldenhof 3 febvre

Mx2 

1 geerts 2 coenen 3 horgmo

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3/22/2023 3:26am

Herlings, Prado, van Doninck

Benistant, De Wolf, Coenen

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3/24/2023 4:25am

Mitch Evans already out for the weekend, this guy can’t stay healthy. 

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3/24/2023 12:46pm
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Mitch Evans already out for the weekend, this guy can’t stay healthy. 

Cruel sport.

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3/25/2023 5:53am

Anyone noticed Haarup not linning up? Also yesterday on the Kawasaki mxgp page on instagram, no mection to him. A bit strange, after what happened in Argentina

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3/25/2023 6:23am
linhai wrote:
Anyone noticed Haarup not linning up? Also yesterday on the Kawasaki mxgp page on instagram, no mection to him. A bit strange, after what happened in...

Anyone noticed Haarup not linning up? Also yesterday on the Kawasaki mxgp page on instagram, no mection to him. A bit strange, after what happened in Argentina

He been practicing 450f. Seems they didnt get that 250f running so could he make jump to 450f as he is tall to 250 anyway? Kawasaki mxgp is different team as Haarup is running Dixon team?

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linhai wrote:
Anyone noticed Haarup not linning up? Also yesterday on the Kawasaki mxgp page on instagram, no mection to him. A bit strange, after what happened in...

Anyone noticed Haarup not linning up? Also yesterday on the Kawasaki mxgp page on instagram, no mection to him. A bit strange, after what happened in Argentina

tek14 wrote:
He been practicing 450f. Seems they didnt get that 250f running so could he make jump to 450f as he is tall to 250 anyway? Kawasaki...

He been practicing 450f. Seems they didnt get that 250f running so could he make jump to 450f as he is tall to 250 anyway? Kawasaki mxgp is different team as Haarup is running Dixon team?

Kawasaki mxgp is the page of Kawasaki teams in mxgp where they mection all the main teams kawasaki. Factory kawasaki 450, Fh Kawasaki and Dixon. Strange that no official press about this.

3/25/2023 7:38am

I'm only picking Vlaanderen for the win. 

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3/25/2023 7:39am

 Lotte Van Drunen just did quite well in the first WMX Moto of the year.

I didn't know she was on a Kawasaki now, but she just  put 1/2 a minute into the second place rider, and, 44 seconds on Courtney Duncan , in 3rd.

A Dutch girl on a sand track........ who would have thunk it  Whistling . She's 15 years of age, 16 in August. It will be interesting to see her progression. 

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