What was that Deegan?

3/18/2023 7:46pm Edited Date/Time 3/18/2023 7:47pm

Smith has run it in on Deegan a few times this year rather aggressively for being teammates. I think Deegan cooked the turn after the whoops and meant to block him but not like that. Then scoots over (carves over) to the other side of the track just to have Smith run over right up beside him with attitude, then cat and mouse, then takes himself out on Deegans back wheel, who was in the race line mind you, in a spot not a lot of passes were made. Seemed kind of like a heated moment but a racing moment. Shut up and move on 

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3/18/2023 7:48pm

Careers are short. Deegan’s not waiting around to inherit positions. Frankly if he gets a “talking to” from Star he is on the wrong team. 

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3/18/2023 7:55pm

Play stupid games win stupid prizes!

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3/18/2023 7:58pm

Crap like this and the whole LL deal is why I don't like this family.  I hope he tries something like this on Phil one day and filthy puts him in another state.  Jordan needs to tee this douche up at the practice track this week.

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The Shop

3/18/2023 8:02pm

If Feld requests the question not be asked.....  ask it anyway.  

Are you high?  Feld is loving every minute of this.  Drama = $$$. 

Not sure how or if this equals money but if FELD or STAR doesn’t want it to be discussed there is certainly reasonable belief that they will try to sweep it under the rug. 

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3/18/2023 8:03pm
KurtJ99 wrote:

Careers are short. Deegan’s not waiting around to inherit positions. Frankly if he gets a “talking to” from Star he is on the wrong team. 

ok, fair enough.  I hope Star doesn't say a damn thing too.  Settle it on the track.  Then let Jordan come out in any of the next races and totally clean Deegan out.  Rubbin is racing.  All good?  Tit for tat.  Turn about is fair play. Making enemies on the track isn't a good strategy if you want to win championships.

 

All the Deegan nut huggers better not be whining when Haiden gets put on the deck.  Its gonna happen.  Rubbin is racin.  Remember that.

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3/18/2023 8:06pm
KurtJ99 wrote:

Careers are short. Deegan’s not waiting around to inherit positions. Frankly if he gets a “talking to” from Star he is on the wrong team. 

TbonesPop wrote:
ok, fair enough.  I hope Star doesn't say a damn thing too.  Settle it on the track.  Then let Jordan come out in any of the...

ok, fair enough.  I hope Star doesn't say a damn thing too.  Settle it on the track.  Then let Jordan come out in any of the next races and totally clean Deegan out.  Rubbin is racing.  All good?  Tit for tat.  Turn about is fair play. Making enemies on the track isn't a good strategy if you want to win championships.

 

All the Deegan nut huggers better not be whining when Haiden gets put on the deck.  Its gonna happen.  Rubbin is racin.  Remember that.

Did Deegan actually clean out Jordan? I saw him bump him but looked like Jordan got mad and crashed.

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3/18/2023 8:10pm
KurtJ99 wrote:

Careers are short. Deegan’s not waiting around to inherit positions. Frankly if he gets a “talking to” from Star he is on the wrong team. 

TbonesPop wrote:
ok, fair enough.  I hope Star doesn't say a damn thing too.  Settle it on the track.  Then let Jordan come out in any of the...

ok, fair enough.  I hope Star doesn't say a damn thing too.  Settle it on the track.  Then let Jordan come out in any of the next races and totally clean Deegan out.  Rubbin is racing.  All good?  Tit for tat.  Turn about is fair play. Making enemies on the track isn't a good strategy if you want to win championships.

 

All the Deegan nut huggers better not be whining when Haiden gets put on the deck.  Its gonna happen.  Rubbin is racin.  Remember that.

JMR1976 wrote:

Did Deegan actually clean out Jordan? I saw him bump him but looked like Jordan got mad and crashed.

He was certainly trying to.  Anybody with an ounce of MX common sense and not swinging from a Deegan ballsack can see what was going on. I say let this all play out on the track.  Star - don't say a word to either rider.  Let them settle it on the track.  Get some popcorn.  Remember, rubbin is racin.  

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3/18/2023 8:13pm

Deegan looked like he was in the wrong in this incident but Smith needs to be smarter when this kind of stuff happens. Everyone seen it coming but him. He should have checked up and passed Deegan in the whoops on the next lap. 

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3/18/2023 8:14pm
TbonesPop wrote:
He was certainly trying to.  Anybody with an ounce of MX common sense and not swinging from a Deegan ballsack can see what was going on...

He was certainly trying to.  Anybody with an ounce of MX common sense and not swinging from a Deegan ballsack can see what was going on. I say let this all play out on the track.  Star - don't say a word to either rider.  Let them settle it on the track.  Get some popcorn.  Remember, rubbin is racin.  

You seem like you want the kid hurt. I get the feeling you would love seeing Jordan clean him out hard. I suggest not taking this so seriously. 

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3/18/2023 8:16pm

Deegan haters calling everyone else Deegan nut huggers.   Haha, classic projection.  All this emotion and drama over a 17yr old rookie that rode a wide bike in the heat race.   After all the take outs and cross jumping that goes down and people are getting all riled up over this?   Some thin skin here at Vital.     

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3/18/2023 8:20pm
RMT wrote:
Deegan haters calling everyone else Deegan nut huggers.   Haha, classic projection.  All this emotion and drama over a 17yr old rookie that rode a wide...

Deegan haters calling everyone else Deegan nut huggers.   Haha, classic projection.  All this emotion and drama over a 17yr old rookie that rode a wide bike in the heat race.   After all the take outs and cross jumping that goes down and people are getting all riled up over this?   Some thin skin here at Vital.     

No shit. This is low speed ticky tac gamesmanship cornering stuff over some obvious issues that are going on between the two. People act like he shoved a stick in his spokes before a takeoff.

The press conference kind of reiterated there’s no love lost between the two. It’s not a big deal. It’s not the reason Smith missed the main. He’s shown plenty of times he can’t keep it on two wheels and could have easily been patient during the heat and came back and qualified and even more so during the lcq. 
 

Deegan will have the same thing done to him eventually. It’s how racing goes. It’s fun to watch. 

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3/18/2023 8:22pm

Granted I think Deegan is a smug 17 year old kid, fun to watch, but who is Jordan Smith? Is he some washed up ex PC rider from the 2015+ years?

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3/18/2023 8:23pm
RMT wrote:
Deegan haters calling everyone else Deegan nut huggers.   Haha, classic projection.  All this emotion and drama over a 17yr old rookie that rode a wide...

Deegan haters calling everyone else Deegan nut huggers.   Haha, classic projection.  All this emotion and drama over a 17yr old rookie that rode a wide bike in the heat race.   After all the take outs and cross jumping that goes down and people are getting all riled up over this?   Some thin skin here at Vital.     

I don't get it. He's the hot young rookie. When's he done to deserve such disdain? Because he was born to a father that gave his every opportunity to have a career in mx and the kid has capitalized on them? Yeah he's a real POS. 

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Here we go ML. Something you can certainly ask about and report on regarding one of the most anticipated and biggest stars entering our sport. You...

Here we go ML. Something you can certainly ask about and report on regarding one of the most anticipated and biggest stars entering our sport. You gonna report on it or accept the answer of its just racing or leave it alone because Jenson says so?

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I’m not at the race. Lewis is. We’re reaching out to Yamaha to see if we can get Jordon but it’s extremely likely that he’s left...

I’m not at the race. Lewis is. We’re reaching out to Yamaha to see if we can get Jordon but it’s extremely likely that he’s left the track already. Depending where Deegan finishes the main will decide who’s interviewing him. If he podiums the main, I’ll ask about in press conference. If he doesn’t podium, Lewis will try to snag him in the pits.

If Feld requests the question not be asked.....  ask it anyway.  

Questions were asked, not much was said. The most in-depth comment on the situation was from Hunter about social media comments, questions and more.

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3/18/2023 8:31pm

Smith seems to think he can push Deegan around....not today fossil

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3/18/2023 8:32pm

If Feld requests the question not be asked.....  ask it anyway.  

Are you high?  Feld is loving every minute of this.  Drama = $$$. 

I was referring to a different thread, where apparently 'they' asked the media not to comment on the thrasher/hunter situation

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3/18/2023 8:36pm

It was certainly aggressive but it wasn't exactly a clean out either.

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3/18/2023 8:37pm Edited Date/Time 3/18/2023 8:40pm

I have been a huge Deegan fan. But man that laugh he developed the last few weeks. Combined with the backwards hat on top of his hair. He has really been giving me some tool bag vibes. I hope he grows up fast. He’s a boy in a mans world right now.

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3/18/2023 8:43pm

I heard Brian and Jordan got into a fight.

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3/18/2023 8:50pm
Farmer J wrote:

I heard Brian and Jordan got into a fight.

Dude, small world.  I grew up in Cuba, MO in the 80s just 8 miles away from where you live.  If Jordan and Brian did get in a fight, that would be fitting, lol

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3/18/2023 8:50pm

What’s the saying “if you cannot be the fastest guy on the track be fastest guy on your team.”  Seems Deegan has taken over the #2 spot at star. 
 

I’ve personally seen Jordan Smith pouting like a little B at Pala over some starting gate stuff. I feel Smith thinks he’s better then he is and cannot stand the new kid showing him up. That’s leading to pouting and bad decisions. 

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3/18/2023 8:59pm
kylemenz1 wrote:
What’s the saying “if you cannot be the fastest guy on the track be fastest guy on your team.”  Seems Deegan has taken over the #2...

What’s the saying “if you cannot be the fastest guy on the track be fastest guy on your team.”  Seems Deegan has taken over the #2 spot at star. 
 

I’ve personally seen Jordan Smith pouting like a little B at Pala over some starting gate stuff. I feel Smith thinks he’s better then he is and cannot stand the new kid showing him up. That’s leading to pouting and bad decisions. 

On the particular incident between Deegan and Smith, Smith was clearly faster and racing forward.  Deegan didn't have the speed in the heat.  Everybody saw it, some people just don't want to admit it.  I'm looking forward to the next east coast round, tell ya that much.  Bummed we have to wait a few weeks.

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3/18/2023 9:00pm Edited Date/Time 3/18/2023 9:01pm

Yes, it was 100% uncalled for but why did Smith not back off? As a vet you would think he is smart enough to back off and go around him another time. Clearly is was a sketchy situation and smith was the last one to make a move and he is the one who paid.

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3/18/2023 9:27pm Edited Date/Time 3/18/2023 9:29pm
TbonesPop wrote:
ok, fair enough.  I hope Star doesn't say a damn thing too.  Settle it on the track.  Then let Jordan come out in any of the...

ok, fair enough.  I hope Star doesn't say a damn thing too.  Settle it on the track.  Then let Jordan come out in any of the next races and totally clean Deegan out.  Rubbin is racing.  All good?  Tit for tat.  Turn about is fair play. Making enemies on the track isn't a good strategy if you want to win championships.

 

All the Deegan nut huggers better not be whining when Haiden gets put on the deck.  Its gonna happen.  Rubbin is racin.  Remember that.

"All the Deegan nut huggers better not be whining when Haiden gets put on the deck.  Its gonna happen.  Rubbin is racin.  Remember that."

Depends on the situation, you're acting like haiden completely punted Smith off the track.

Anyway it's typical for alot of peopleon the forum, if deegan wins you barely hear a peep if he self destructs you bet your ass there will be 10 pagers about how bad he is, just like this thread.

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3/18/2023 9:35pm Edited Date/Time 3/18/2023 9:37pm
crusher773 wrote:
Crap like this and the whole LL deal is why I don't like this family.  I hope he tries something like this on Phil one day...

Crap like this and the whole LL deal is why I don't like this family.  I hope he tries something like this on Phil one day and filthy puts him in another state.  Jordan needs to tee this douche up at the practice track this week.

Stuff like what?

Smith running into his back wheel?

Just last week half of vital was calling the new generation pussies that couldn’t have handled the bar banging of yesteryear now the pitchforks are out cause the new kid ain’t gonna take any shit off someone twice his age?

 

I bet Star could care less. Deegan is the future. Smith has proved once again he can’t stay off the dirt. One of them will have a lucrative factory ride next year, one of them has run out of chances. 
 

*Edited to add: I LOVE Phil but I don’t think he’s gonna spend much time dicing with Deegan in the future. 

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3/18/2023 9:42pm
kylemenz1 wrote:
What’s the saying “if you cannot be the fastest guy on the track be fastest guy on your team.”  Seems Deegan has taken over the #2...

What’s the saying “if you cannot be the fastest guy on the track be fastest guy on your team.”  Seems Deegan has taken over the #2 spot at star. 
 

I’ve personally seen Jordan Smith pouting like a little B at Pala over some starting gate stuff. I feel Smith thinks he’s better then he is and cannot stand the new kid showing him up. That’s leading to pouting and bad decisions. 

TbonesPop wrote:
On the particular incident between Deegan and Smith, Smith was clearly faster and racing forward.  Deegan didn't have the speed in the heat.  Everybody saw it...

On the particular incident between Deegan and Smith, Smith was clearly faster and racing forward.  Deegan didn't have the speed in the heat.  Everybody saw it, some people just don't want to admit it.  I'm looking forward to the next east coast round, tell ya that much.  Bummed we have to wait a few weeks.

Yes he was faster. But why did he cut over so hard into 238 right after first contact?  Why did he look over and brake check 238 after the next turn?  He was not racing forward. He was trying to show 238 who’s the boss and it had the opposite effect. A 15 and not making the main are not veteran rider qualities.

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3/18/2023 9:43pm

 I’d have one comment if I was Haiden. “ I get paid to WIN RACES. I’m gonna ride hard whether it is a heat race or a main. Get used to it. “. 

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3/18/2023 9:43pm

Lol.

Imagine if one of the Lawrence brothers rode like Deegan did tonight.

Vital would be petitioning the US to nuke Australia...

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3/18/2023 9:52pm

That’s what some of you softies are bitching about?

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