Riders agents?

WarrenMX
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Edited Date/Time 3/13/2023 7:39pm

Anyone else feel like these guys are trying to be more and more in the spot light and have more and more influence on the sport? 

I understand why riders need them, just like riders need a good accountant, but you don't see the fucking accountant trying to be in on the vlogs, family photos and up on the podium. 

 

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Johnny Ringo
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3/13/2023 7:41pm

They all think they are Ari Gold

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3/13/2023 8:22pm Edited Date/Time 3/13/2023 8:24pm

There’s only one like that, and he forbid anyone in the press conference to ask about what his client did to Thrasher.   Now that’s a joke. 

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3/13/2023 8:27pm

Mark McCormack has a lot to answer for!

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3/13/2023 8:29pm
UpTiTe wrote:
There’s only one like that, and he forbid anyone in the press conference to ask about what his client did to Thrasher.   Now that’s a...

There’s only one like that, and he forbid anyone in the press conference to ask about what his client did to Thrasher.   Now that’s a joke. 

Word from ML512 is that it came from Feld and not to ask Hunter OR Nate any questions.  Where is came from before then is anyone's guess right now but if it did come from an Myrtle then that is some major BS and is causing more of a storm now than "someone" was obviously trying to prevent.

Who in their right mind could think this was a good idea.

 

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3/13/2023 9:01pm Edited Date/Time 3/13/2023 9:28pm

DV12/DV934 mowed down said agent on a Pulp show once. It was glorious.

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3/13/2023 9:02pm Edited Date/Time 3/13/2023 9:03pm

Agents being involved is nothing new.  Sepkovic and Steve Stephen for examples and that dates all the way back to Jason Lawrence and before......and we have more BS about the questions about Nate and Hunter in this thread again after ML shared the truth.  Jesus some of you want to sound like "you know things" and could care less if its accurate.

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3/13/2023 9:09pm

Mirts gets involved in areas he really doesn't need to get involved. That's the only one

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3/13/2023 9:29pm

if the rider is winning and its not affecting his performance.. im all for it...

Stew with Bubbas world was an example of it not working out.

McGrath is an example of it working just fine.

 

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3/16/2023 2:07am

DV12/DV934 mowed down said agent on a Pulp show once. It was glorious.

I love pulp, but don’t remember this..

when was it? Do you remember what he said?

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3/16/2023 2:19am

DV12/DV934 mowed down said agent on a Pulp show once. It was glorious.

I love pulp, but don’t remember this..

when was it? Do you remember what he said?

Last time DV was in studio. Mirts called in.

 

show 512 from July of last year  

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3/16/2023 2:22am

It’s weird, seem to hear from and about Mirtl all the time, his name is always popping up. Yet I couldn’t tell you the name of a single other agent..

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3/17/2023 12:44pm
It’s weird, seem to hear from and about Mirtl all the time, his name is always popping up. Yet I couldn’t tell you the name of...

It’s weird, seem to hear from and about Mirtl all the time, his name is always popping up. Yet I couldn’t tell you the name of a single other agent..

Steve Astephen, B Deegan, J Tomac.

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3/17/2023 12:49pm
It’s weird, seem to hear from and about Mirtl all the time, his name is always popping up. Yet I couldn’t tell you the name of...

It’s weird, seem to hear from and about Mirtl all the time, his name is always popping up. Yet I couldn’t tell you the name of a single other agent..

Goldmember wrote:

Steve Astephen, B Deegan, J Tomac.

jimmy button still doing the agent thing?

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3/17/2023 12:53pm
It’s weird, seem to hear from and about Mirtl all the time, his name is always popping up. Yet I couldn’t tell you the name of...

It’s weird, seem to hear from and about Mirtl all the time, his name is always popping up. Yet I couldn’t tell you the name of a single other agent..

Goldmember wrote:

Steve Astephen, B Deegan, J Tomac.

jimmy button still doing the agent thing?

Yep. He's Bogle's agent. 

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3/17/2023 12:53pm

jimmy button still doing the agent thing?

Yes, colt Nichols, Justin bogle and levi kitchen are riders he represents. Not sure who else 

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3/17/2023 5:53pm

lucas is a double edged sword...........

 

i'm sure most riders wld love to have him....he is trying to grow the sport (and his clients wealth) but i can see how his ever presentness(?)  upsets a few!

lucas u need to spend abit more time nutt hugging jo....and less with jett/hunta .............share the luv mate!

3/17/2023 5:55pm Edited Date/Time 3/17/2023 5:56pm

DV12/DV934 mowed down said agent on a Pulp show once. It was glorious.

yep that was abit funny......... but DV was a little over the top rude imho ....LOL

 

i can only assume david was half cut during that interview but i cld be wrong............he is french afterall   Smile

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3/17/2023 7:43pm

DV12/DV934 mowed down said agent on a Pulp show once. It was glorious.

yep that was abit funny......... but DV was a little over the top rude imho ....LOL   i can only assume david was half cut during...

yep that was abit funny......... but DV was a little over the top rude imho ....LOL

 

i can only assume david was half cut during that interview but i cld be wrong............he is french afterall   Smile

Mertl is a douche noodle and thinks he is bigger than the sport….

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3/17/2023 7:58pm
UpTiTe wrote:
There’s only one like that, and he forbid anyone in the press conference to ask about what his client did to Thrasher.   Now that’s a...

There’s only one like that, and he forbid anyone in the press conference to ask about what his client did to Thrasher.   Now that’s a joke. 

One of the biggest kooks I have ever met. 

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3/17/2023 9:36pm Edited Date/Time 3/17/2023 9:40pm

jimmy button still doing the agent thing?

Jdog2221 wrote:

Yes, colt Nichols, Justin bogle and levi kitchen are riders he represents. Not sure who else 

Kitchens agent is mirtl.

Mirtl has Webb, Lawrence's, hymas, shimoda, vohland, kitchen, philthy, mcnabb and the coenen twins that I know of. Plus a bunch of less names 

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3/17/2023 9:59pm
mx313 wrote:
Kitchens agent is mirtl. Mirtl has Webb, Lawrence's, hymas, shimoda, vohland, kitchen, philthy, mcnabb and the coenen twins that I know of. Plus a bunch of...

Kitchens agent is mirtl.

Mirtl has Webb, Lawrence's, hymas, shimoda, vohland, kitchen, philthy, mcnabb and the coenen twins that I know of. Plus a bunch of less names 

FARK!...didn't realise he had kitchen as well...........cornering the market with young talent.....(deegan's agent better be watchful...Smile )

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3/17/2023 10:32pm
mx313 wrote:
Kitchens agent is mirtl. Mirtl has Webb, Lawrence's, hymas, shimoda, vohland, kitchen, philthy, mcnabb and the coenen twins that I know of. Plus a bunch of...

Kitchens agent is mirtl.

Mirtl has Webb, Lawrence's, hymas, shimoda, vohland, kitchen, philthy, mcnabb and the coenen twins that I know of. Plus a bunch of less names 

FARK!...didn't realise he had kitchen as well...........cornering the market with young talent.....(deegan's agent better be watchful...Smile )

He gets them when they are amateurs and gets them a pro contract. 

Apparently with hymas his dad didn't want an agent. They were going there own root. Mirtl kept harassing them and kept getting turned down. Mirtl got him a contract with hrc 2 years amateur 2 years pro with other deals with out being his agent. Sent it over to his dad. And told him I have this deal for you. Sign me as you agent. And they signed.

A lot of ppl think agents are scum and drain money out of riders. But if they cost a rider 7% and negotiate contracts 10-25% higher then they pay them self off.

 

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3/18/2023 9:28am
mx313 wrote:
He gets them when they are amateurs and gets them a pro contract.  Apparently with hymas his dad didn't want an agent. They were going there...

He gets them when they are amateurs and gets them a pro contract. 

Apparently with hymas his dad didn't want an agent. They were going there own root. Mirtl kept harassing them and kept getting turned down. Mirtl got him a contract with hrc 2 years amateur 2 years pro with other deals with out being his agent. Sent it over to his dad. And told him I have this deal for you. Sign me as you agent. And they signed.

A lot of ppl think agents are scum and drain money out of riders. But if they cost a rider 7% and negotiate contracts 10-25% higher then they pay them self off.

 

I don't question their value at all, just like I don't question the value of a good accountant, in theory they save you more than they cost to hire, but it just seems like some of them are trying to be famous now. 

The Ari Gold effect is a real thing, but the funny thing is, if you watch the show carefully, you realize that the show is a behind the scenes story and that Ari only showed up when he absolutely needed to, he was never trying to be in the spot light with Vinny.

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3/18/2023 2:51pm
mx313 wrote:
He gets them when they are amateurs and gets them a pro contract.  Apparently with hymas his dad didn't want an agent. They were going there...

He gets them when they are amateurs and gets them a pro contract. 

Apparently with hymas his dad didn't want an agent. They were going there own root. Mirtl kept harassing them and kept getting turned down. Mirtl got him a contract with hrc 2 years amateur 2 years pro with other deals with out being his agent. Sent it over to his dad. And told him I have this deal for you. Sign me as you agent. And they signed.

A lot of ppl think agents are scum and drain money out of riders. But if they cost a rider 7% and negotiate contracts 10-25% higher then they pay them self off.

 

WarrenMX wrote:
I don't question their value at all, just like I don't question the value of a good accountant, in theory they save you more than they...

I don't question their value at all, just like I don't question the value of a good accountant, in theory they save you more than they cost to hire, but it just seems like some of them are trying to be famous now. 

The Ari Gold effect is a real thing, but the funny thing is, if you watch the show carefully, you realize that the show is a behind the scenes story and that Ari only showed up when he absolutely needed to, he was never trying to be in the spot light with Vinny.

So mirts  knows what hrc. Star..PC and KTM all pay their 250 riders....pretty handy info if U r seeking the gig...

I wld be signing on the dotted line..

Imagine he may end up with the top 6 to 8 riders in the future which gives him alot of clout..

Not necessarily healthy for the sport!!

 

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