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James had way more in the tank that he showed at Matterly...WAY more. I've watched him ride many many many times.
Really? I wasn't there? How do you know that?
And even so...I"ve seen video of the race...which is just as good as being there...
And the better guy DID WIN THAT DAY....James and Team USA took home the trophy.
Why can't you see this?
Stewart was not going for it...Everts was, I have no doubt about that...But stewart had way more in the tank. I've watched him ride many many times, and he's way faster than he showed at Matterly.
He wanted the team win...he got it...mission accomplished.
Is the Chamberlain Trophy the prize the TEAMS go there to win???? YES
Does the Chamberlain Trophy go to the winner??? YES
Did James Stewart and TEAM USA take home the trophy??? YES
How can you say "he didn't win"??? He got the trophy...he won....don't be stupid.
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Keep jumping to conclusions....
You don't have to be there to have seen the race...all you Euro's love to attempt to give credibility to your half assed posts by saying "i was there"...big fuckin' deal...
When you are at a motocross race, you SEE far LESS than the people that watch it on TV. FAR LESS.
So take that and smoke it...
If you go by who looks the most comfortable on the track equals the fastest rider then you must think RC is slow????
Come on...let's just be realistic...
James won. His Team took home the trophy everyone showed up to win. End of story. Saying he lost some stupid ass "individual" win at a TEAM event is stupid.
Owned...please...you guys haven't even seen my A game yet...I'm still getting warmed up.
Everts went 1-1
Stewart went 2-2
That's how I say he didn't win. Because, err... He didn't. His TEAM did, but he didn't. Some bloke called Everts beat him. You can look the results up and everything.
Good night, by the way - it's late here, more tomorrw.
But according to Trip "Only me and a few others care" so in reality I only expect a few dozen people sitting on their hands bored to death to actually attend. lol
Can't wait till next yr i already have my tickets--oh wait I don't know who the promotor is and there is no PR so it can't be that big a deal anyway.....
Carry on
HOW do you know Everts was "going for it"? and JS7 wasn't?
My simple overview is this... JS7 crashed trying to keep up in moto 1(Yet he was cruising hey?), he didn't win either moto's, had a far slower best lap time and looked ragged (Oh forgot he was cruising hey?)... Now admit S72 was the better man!
BUT TEAM USA WAS THE BETTER TEAM, NOT JAMES AND THE TEAM AS YOU KEEP REFERRING... SIMPLY TEAM USA!!!
But damn, Everts did rail the berms like he was glued to them. It was an impressive ride unlike when I seen him ride and get smoked at Unadilla years back at a national event.
This sunday 6 a.m. my eye's will be watching on the net. GO USA and may the best team win the Motocross Des Nations. Those of us on this site love this sport and let's remember that!
Stewart did back it off when he realised he couldn't keep up with Stefan
Yes USA won a team event thanks to James keeping it on 2 wheels.
I thought Carolli's ride was the best though.
The ironic thing - and Im not taking anything away from the USA because they're fugging incredible riders - is if Strijbos hadn't crashed in '06 and Boissierre hadn't suffered a puncture in '08, Team USA would have ended up 2nd both years...
GB came 6th in '06 by the way.
And PW80YAMAHARIDER or whatever your name is, wtf are you talking about individual results don't matter? Of course they matter, thats how the 'TEAM' earn points!
Try going to a different country each week and dealing with everything that comes with it and get back to us.
If James was that fast he could have beaten Everts easy right?
team or no team, he could have done it easy...but he wasn't not on that day.
Pit Row
1. Stewart was in his first year on a 450 and finished FOURTH in the 450 Nationals behind RC, Windham, and Davi Millsaps. The Stewart of today is NOT the Stewart of 2006. So the discussion is really about how Everts did against the 2006 AMA FOURTH place finisher.
2. Stewart was thrust into the big-bike spotlight via Carmichael's injury only 2 weeks earlier at Glen Helen.
3. A Carmichael-Villopoto-Stewart team would have raced with a whole different dynamic than the Stewart-Villopoto-Tedesco team did. Racing with Carmichael always brought out the best in Stewart.
4. RC would probably have crushed Everts that day, but that is something we'll never know for fact. I would have bet very big money on it however.
5. Stewart almost certainly was instructed by DeCoster (and RC) to avoid AT ALL COSTS the kind of ragdoll crash that he was prone to in order to win the TEAM race.
However, they didn't race each other enough for anyone to be able to say that Everts was faster. It was two motos, and he was faster in those motos. Everts had him covered on that day, under those circumstances. I would have loved to see them race each other more times.
5. Stewart almost certainly was instructed by DeCoster (and RC) to avoid AT ALL COSTS the kind of ragdoll crash that he was prone to in order to win the TEAM race.
But he has admitted since that Everts was quicker that day, " almost certainly " " probably ". Thats a lot of uncertainty from someone so sure.
Gee, wonder why he is not there this year? Please re-read line #1. You make the rules and then try to fry the riders who win by the rules.
Fucking insanity at some point. What would you do? Would you subject yourself to the endless bullshit?
If you were honest.
SO much fun to wind up!!!
but at the mxdn... he could'nt keep up with an old man!
What you all need to accept is that JS lied on that video. I was there and saw him lose on the track. I was also in that press conference and saw the embarassed smirk on his face when he claimed he'd 'taken one for the team'. Not a single person there believed him. He's since admitted he was utterly beaten by a better rider on that day. Stefan humiliated him, he wasn't used to that and didn't know how to handle it. He should have been man enough to admit what happened there and then. AS it was he didn't, and Stefan had to set the record straight.
That was also the day that Cairoli showed his true potential. The mid-race nac-nac was an unbelievable sight, the crowd noise and atmosphere unreal. It was the motocross des nations, not the USA vs Europe motocross. Unfortunately though it felt like that at times due to the way the US team behaved (and still do). Walk round the pits and all the GP stars are mixed in together, you can go and speak to whoever you like, everyone's happy to chat. Cairoli even came up to the fairground on the saturday night to join in the (somewhat drunken) fun. Contrast that with Team USA's fort knox pit area, their special dispensation on noise/fuel/drugs tests and you can see the 'them and us' thing being entirely of their own making.
The pit area for Donington last year was even more ridiculous. You needed special VIP passes to get into the monster energy pit area, then an extra pass to get anywhere near Team USA.
No-one else does all this, why do they think its neccessary? I'd love to see them relax a bit and join in with the fun and the atmosphere of this special event like all the other teams do. That way the European fans would respect them a lot more, maybe even grow to like them.
PilotDude just pointed out that Stewart came 4th in the AMA in '06... so why is it so hard to say 'yeah ok, Everts had the measure of him that day'? Stewart IS probably even better now, but at the time he was the new Superstar of Motocross and you guys know it, he was chosen above the others, which is why some of you simply refuse to accept it.
Perhaps the most significant thing about '06 is that Everts also beat Stewart in the first race, straight up, before Stewart knew how the rest of the day was going to pan out.
I don't believe us 'Euros' should cling on to that day too much, it happened three years ago and Everts has retired now. But when RC beat Everts in '03 and when Villopoto crushed the entire field at Budds Creek we are able to say the best man won. Americans it seems, are not.
Maybe we need to watch this, just to even things up...
Look in Mirror.
Lied on the video.
Excellent.
Embarrassed smirk.
Awesome.
Not a single person there believed him.
You just lied. (I was there - I know James' riding as good as his Dad.) Yes, he took one.
As far as USA's pits....there were HUNDREDS of people (maybe a thousand) trying to get a view of USA pits (mainly RC). When RC arrived, there were 40-50 kids chasing his car from the front gate. Across the pit lane (5 meters away) in Evert's' pits, there was no barrier and no people. Please don't be a drama queen. It was what it was.
There comes a point when the bullshit (or denial) get's so deep you can't breath.
RC has been to England twice during that time.
There were ALOT of fans around Everts at the end of the day.
Plus, if no one paid any attention to the US team you would be even more put out!
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