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2/5/2023 7:56am
crusty_xx wrote:
If I'm Vialle, all I'm doing this week is practice whoops. He lost like half a second there every single lap... His fastest sector 3 which...

If I'm Vialle, all I'm doing this week is practice whoops. He lost like half a second there every single lap... His fastest sector 3 which is the whoop section is 18th fastest (there were only 4 guys in the main slower than him in the whoops) - 0.8s slower than the fastest guy (Smith) in a 4 second segment. Rest of the track he was fine and pretty much as fast as anyone but hunter.

I agree but you can’t improve in the whoops in a week.  It will take half the season to get it down better.

True. Kinda crazy how much skill whoops require that even world class riders struggle after months of practice. 

To be fair that was a long ass whoops section too.that didn't help 

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2/5/2023 8:08am
Timo wrote:

Everyone on the broadcast and in the press conference acting like Eli hit the turbo boost button after the restart, his fastest lap was lap 1...

It think it comes down to maturity and experience for Tomac.  He knows when to push and when not to.  It’s not always about setting the fastest lap every single lap.

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2/5/2023 8:19am

Great racing all around!!   

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2/5/2023 8:27am
Timo wrote:

Everyone on the broadcast and in the press conference acting like Eli hit the turbo boost button after the restart, his fastest lap was lap 1...

But relative to everybody else he was faster. As shown by getting to finish line first. He seemed to lose less time than the others as the track degraded.

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2/5/2023 8:38am

Deagan and Vaille looked great.  Crazy that deagan looked so composed while a two time champ and veterans made mistakes around him.  I'd say they are both pretty happy with the night.  

Jmart showed some fight towards the end.  But didn't have much speed.  But I'm sure he is happy to still be uninjured after the first round.  

Mossimen was the one I was most disappointed with.  Was hoping he would be the main challenge to hunter.  

Smith looked really fast, but hit the ground again while moving forward.   With a good start he seems as fast as hunter.  

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2/5/2023 9:13am

Is it just me or did Max Anstie rip the shit out of the corners on the honda.

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2/5/2023 9:44am
prozach wrote:
Deagan and Vaille looked great.  Crazy that deagan looked so composed while a two time champ and veterans made mistakes around him.  I'd say they are...

Deagan and Vaille looked great.  Crazy that deagan looked so composed while a two time champ and veterans made mistakes around him.  I'd say they are both pretty happy with the night.  

Jmart showed some fight towards the end.  But didn't have much speed.  But I'm sure he is happy to still be uninjured after the first round.  

Mossimen was the one I was most disappointed with.  Was hoping he would be the main challenge to hunter.  

Smith looked really fast, but hit the ground again while moving forward.   With a good start he seems as fast as hunter.  

I was tracking Mosiman, his pace was actually really good. Had a bad start and took a few minutes to settle in. 

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2/5/2023 10:11am Edited Date/Time 2/5/2023 10:15am

My observations from the night after watching in person:

I was excited to see how Vialle would do and he didn’t disappoint. Really great looking/efficient riding style and corner speed. Really only lost time in the whoops which was encouraging.

Anstie looked really strong. Great corner speed and impressive in the whoops for the most part.

AP was looking pretty spicy before the restart and looked good overall to me before dropping back a bit.

Couldn’t believe nobody was switching their line to Tomac’s in the sand. Lap after lap he would pull away. I think Chase made up time on one or two laps taking the inside towards the beginning of the race.

Chase looked awesome but I think he went for the pass attempt a little too early. He was right on Tomac’s wheel and had the speed but lost ground and never made it back up after a pass attempt when he wasn’t quite close enough. 

Craig had an early crash on the over/under which I’m sure took the wind of of the sails a bit since he was in the back of the pack. But he’s not looking too great to me. Jumping the rhythms but just doesn’t look aggressive.

Scary crash for DF. Really scary to see someone motionless. He was out for sure right away. Was worried of spine/neck when he didn’t move but glad he’s good to go for the most part.

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2/5/2023 10:50am
Timo wrote:

Everyone on the broadcast and in the press conference acting like Eli hit the turbo boost button after the restart, his fastest lap was lap 1...

PRM31 wrote:
But relative to everybody else he was faster. As shown by getting to finish line first. He seemed to lose less time than the others as...

But relative to everybody else he was faster. As shown by getting to finish line first. He seemed to lose less time than the others as the track degraded.

I know, just pointing out that according to the experts, he looked his worst on his fastest lap lol.

2/5/2023 11:36am

Rc "the only guy who can beat chase sexton tonight, is chase sexton"

 

Eli Tomac wasn't listening..

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2/5/2023 1:05pm
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Last year was very bad for him, I agree. But 2021 was actually Ken's best SX season so far, people forget about that. He was really...

Last year was very bad for him, I agree. But 2021 was actually Ken's best SX season so far, people forget about that. He was really close that year, Webb was just better and a lot more consistent. He was also very solid outdoors and finished the year with the most points overall from both championships.

People make it sound like he has done nothing since his injuries, but he still got a lot of wins and always finished 2-4 in the championships except for last year. I also think it's weird that he can battle for a podium one weekend and then barely finish in the top 10 the next one, but saying that his best days are over since 2020 is just plain wrong and stupid. 

If 35pts is considered close, then ya he was close in 2021. I do realize he's had some flashes of his old self prior to his...

If 35pts is considered close, then ya he was close in 2021. I do realize he's had some flashes of his old self prior to his very, very well documented injuries and other "ailments" multiple times every broadcast. I must be plain wrong and stupid, because I do believe his best days are over. I would like to be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I'm not. I guess we will see how it all plays out. I just hope everyone stays healthy and we get some good racing.

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Not you're stupid. Just the fact that you said he wasn't as good since 2020 basically when 2021 was his best year statistically in sx (or...

Not you're stupid. Just the fact that you said he wasn't as good since 2020 basically when 2021 was his best year statistically in sx (or pretty close with 2016). Whatever, let's hope we see Kenny more up front than battling for 9th place. A Roczen that's putting up a fight is definitely more enjoyable to watch for everyone!

If Kenny would ride as angry and motivated with the same intensity he has when arguing with trolls on his Instagram account he could possibly pull off a win. 

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2/5/2023 2:01pm
riotactor3 wrote:
Chase was disappointed during his podium interview.  He just has to realize that he is more of a threat to Eli taking a second on a...

Chase was disappointed during his podium interview.  He just has to realize that he is more of a threat to Eli taking a second on a night like tonight.  Chase will get more wins, if he can limit the damage when he doesn’t win I think that should worry Eli. 

A night like tonight seemed like one of the nights that Sexton needed to beat him if he wants to win the title. Sexton was faster...

A night like tonight seemed like one of the nights that Sexton needed to beat him if he wants to win the title. Sexton was faster all day. 

Agreed... last night reminded me of the third Dallas race in 2021. Webb with the points lead, but Roczen totally had him covered in qualifying and the heat race. It looked like he was going to win and get back to challenging Webb for the title, but Webb figured it out and managed to run him down in the main and extend his points lead... it felt like the nail in the coffin for that season. If Roczen couldn't beat Webb that night, no way he was making up a ~20 point gap with 5 rounds left.

Obviously, last night's round is a bit different in that it's only the fourth race so a lot more can happen as the season wears on, but it was definitely similar in the fact that Tomac looked like the odds were against him to win but he still pulled it off. Probably hard to swallow for Sexton... he can't blame it on a crash or bad start, he just got straight-up beat on a night where he probably thought he had the field (including Eli) totally covered.

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2/5/2023 3:28pm

Man.. Id love nothing more then to see both Lawrence brothers take the title in each coast. Has that ever happened? Brothers winning a title the same year?

 

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2/5/2023 6:08pm
Man.. Id love nothing more then to see both Lawrence brothers take the title in each coast. Has that ever happened? Brothers winning a title the...

Man.. Id love nothing more then to see both Lawrence brothers take the title in each coast. Has that ever happened? Brothers winning a title the same year?

 

Other than James and Mookie I don't recall any brothers that have both won a title. Let alone in the same season.

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2/5/2023 6:25pm
Man.. Id love nothing more then to see both Lawrence brothers take the title in each coast. Has that ever happened? Brothers winning a title the...

Man.. Id love nothing more then to see both Lawrence brothers take the title in each coast. Has that ever happened? Brothers winning a title the same year?

 

crusty_xx wrote:

Other than James and Mookie I don't recall any brothers that have both won a title. Let alone in the same season.

Lots of fast brothers in motocross though, right? Martins, Jones, Pomeroys, Allessis, Hills, Grossis, Bradshaws....

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2/5/2023 6:31pm
Man.. Id love nothing more then to see both Lawrence brothers take the title in each coast. Has that ever happened? Brothers winning a title the...

Man.. Id love nothing more then to see both Lawrence brothers take the title in each coast. Has that ever happened? Brothers winning a title the same year?

 

crusty_xx wrote:

Other than James and Mookie I don't recall any brothers that have both won a title. Let alone in the same season.

Spoonguy wrote:

Lots of fast brothers in motocross though, right? Martins, Jones, Pomeroys, Allessis, Hills, Grossis, Bradshaws....

Forgot the Wankets, plenty of brothers. Hahns, Sipes, Emigs?....

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2/5/2023 6:34pm

The King brothers, but thats motocross 

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2/5/2023 6:43pm

Sun bros, Vohland bros. Tedesco bros...

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2/5/2023 7:08pm
Rotaholic wrote:

The King brothers, but thats motocross 

i grew up watching them both!! amazing riders

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2/5/2023 8:28pm
Spoonguy wrote:

Forgot the Wankets, plenty of brothers. Hahns, Sipes, Emigs?....

I never knew Fro"s brother raced professionally. I think both Daniel and his brother Vincent both raced pro.

2/6/2023 2:00am

Not dirt bikes but Marc and Alex Márquez are the only brothers to win world championship in the same year in MotoGP n moto3. Sam and Alex Lowes also champ bros with Sam winning world supersport and Alex winning British superbikes in the same year  

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2/6/2023 2:47am
Rotaholic wrote:

The King brothers, but thats motocross 

i grew up watching them both!! amazing riders

There was actually three King brothers that raced.

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Marty and Mike Tripes.

Though Mikey mostly dabbled in the 250's occasionally.  

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