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By the way, the thought occurred to me the other day that perhaps the reason Suzuki hasn't updated the RM-Z models is because they are working on an RM-E. Hmmmmm....
I haven’t claimed it to be fact.
I haven’t used the words ‘stamp it bro’
I asked “what if?”
Now you’re asking me to “prove it”
WTF..
Stark showed Triumph how it's done. They showed us a bike that will change things up, video/pics with specs and had footage of the actual bike in action. They even had interviews with pro riders who rep the brand well and gave solidly detailed reviews on how the bike works.
Triumph has its own little niche in the road bike market but never was the "go to" for any sorts of offroad motorcycling in the last few decades, at least not in Europe. If all that development of Moto2GP engines/bikes yielded saleable results and a head start to the motorcycle competition, I guess a couple other manufacturers would look into it as well. Honda gave up in 2018 and seems to be doing well without.
Leaving everybody guessing for such a long time pushes expectations higher so they better have a world beater motorcycle and a capable pilot to deliver the needed results in MXGP.
Of course I don’t have evidence- I never claimed any of it was fact. I don’t really understand why you’re saying I am claiming it to be breaking news.
Hypothesis, opinions, conjecture all get thrown about on this forum on a daily basis. Why are you so passionate about this one or are you always so dead keen to get the last word??
I’m surmising.
A supposition of ideas is called a theory.
Let it run, for fun.
Triumph and Stark are two different companies.
Unless you have some sort of compelling evidence proving they are the same company, you’re just spewing garbage while telling people off shouting “BUT WHAT IF!?”
Put the keyboard away for a minute. 99% of your posts are just dribble and I’m tired of having to soak it up instead of the bib you should be wearing.
Relax. It’ll shine when it shines.
Pit Row
This was a few months ago and he seemed convincing. They will sell them late 22 he said.
TRIUMPH is another clone of the KTM GROUP !
GOOGLE
December 2021 announcement of a collaboration between Thriumph and Bajaj (India).
The partnership between Bajaj and KTM began in 2007 when Bajaj Auto International Holdings BV (BAIHBV) acquired a 14.5% stake in KTM Power Sports AG and subsequently launched the brand in India. BAIHBV gradually increased its importance to 48%. In 2021, shareholding was simplified when BAIHBV exchanged 46.5% of its stake to acquire a 49.9% stake in PTW Holding AG (the parent company of the KTM group).
Today Bajaj Auto Ltd produces. KTM and Husqvarna small displacement motorcycles at its Chakan factory in Maharashtra, which are exported all over the world.
My conclusion Thriumph another clone of the KTM group
If that was the case I think the bikes would be out already…
No, it is not.
They already confirmed that it is designed, engineered, and built in the UK by Triumph.
Triumph are owned by John Bloor / the Bloor Group.
Last I saw, it was a privately owned company.
Triumph have been working with Bajaj, with their soon to come sub 500cc Motorcycles ( Note : like how KTM have their 125 through to 390s Dukes, RCs and ADVs being made in India - I Am Not implying their Enduro / MXers are to be made by Bajaj ) , to be produced in India, and, perhaps their Thai factories and the Brazil / Brasil factory - though, that would be probably as a CKD or PKD set up.
Triumph have factories in Britain : 2, Thailand : 3, and the one in Brazil.
Who knows, Bajaj may acquire some ownership of Triumph, with their linking, they may not. That is Entirely up to John Bloor / his Son, who now is largely in charge.
India is a Powerhouse of manufacturing, and, Indian companies have acquired quite a few British ' named ' companies. Better that, than the Chinese, as it still is the Worlds largest Democracy, though I fear for that with Modi's ever increasing Authoritorism. That is a worry.
Like Enfield, Triumph are a great company to do a bit of work for. Brazil is a great place to visit.......
Oh, and as to Suzuki : go check out the vast Vehicle production plant they are building in India . It's something like a fair few hundred acres. With, a Motorcycle production facility scheduled to be beside it. They are investing quite a few Billion $$$ in their future in India.
I wouldn't be too excited or hold my breath over the triumph. Its just a steel frame hunk of junk that will cost over $12k. Some old dudes will rush out to buy the first models just to be able to tell us what all the issues are with the first generation. I don't even think the aesthetics will be very pleasing unfortunately. Hate to be a downer, but I find the rest of triumph's product including the adventure line to be super underwhelming and overweight
Carmichael didn’t seem as much tight lipped as underwhelmed. Hope I’m wrong.
Dude stop letting them give you a hard time. I get the point of your post and it has made for good conversation. Plus our usernames check out:-)
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