2010 YZ450F

kevin204
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Worst bike since the 2009 CRF450R.
roosty
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9/8/2009 12:02pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 2:03am



Drfletcher
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9/8/2009 12:07pm
I am waiting for a ride report. Looks don't make a bike, but that bike looks bad azz!
TMV
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9/8/2009 12:07pm Edited Date/Time 9/8/2009 12:08pm
$8k for a dirt bike. Yowza!

It will be interesting to see what the offroad guys do. Good luck getting an oversize tank on that thing.
Here in France you can afford a 2010 CRF 450R for 8,290 Euros, which corresponds to...... (snare)............ TA DA !! 12,000 USD

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mxcrf34 wrote:
This is definitly interesting. the new idea for mass centralization is good but I'd like to see how durable this is.
No more durable than any other high revving 4-stroke motocross bike. I would hate to work on this thing when it drops a valve or has some kind of issue with the fuel injection system.
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9/8/2009 12:35pm
Pat327 wrote:
No more durable than any other high revving 4-stroke motocross bike. I would hate to work on this thing when it drops a valve or has...
No more durable than any other high revving 4-stroke motocross bike. I would hate to work on this thing when it drops a valve or has some kind of issue with the fuel injection system.
Man , a simple spark plug change looks labor intensive.Dizzy
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9/8/2009 12:39pm
The engine looks fantastic...it should be extremely powerful due to the intake and the offset crank. I am very, very skeptical at the exhaust loop thing with respect to overheating the shock. I am also very skeptical of the intake with respect to dust, dirt, and water ingestion and if you take a digger into powder or sand...will it fill the airbox with said debris?

Cool bike, props to Yamaha for coming up with something so different people will buy it just to be different....a chip off the Honda block of 2 pipes, aluminum frames, blah blah blah.
j100
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9/8/2009 12:41pm
looks badass!
MxChick613
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9/8/2009 12:42pm
Just got back from the Yamaha regional dealer show.

Thought this was pretty interesting and shows the signs of the time!

Yamaha's cutting production on the TTRs. There will be no 2010 TTRs OR PW50s being made. They will be produced for 2011 only. This will not only cut back their costs, but will also help the dealer clear out old inventory. ( I'm sitting on a 2006 PW50!)

They also cut back on a few sport bikes and pushed release dates until January so that gives more time for the dealers to get rid of old stock.

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9/8/2009 12:49pm
$8k for a dirt bike. Yowza!

It will be interesting to see what the offroad guys do. Good luck getting an oversize tank on that thing.
TMV wrote:
Here in France you can afford a 2010 CRF 450R for 8,290 Euros, which corresponds to...... (snare)............ TA DA !! 12,000 USD
moo domt do that...dont remind me that we are fucked in europe...
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9/8/2009 12:52pm
Love the innovation. Obviously won't be buying one anytime soon, but still nice to see someone doing something different.

I thought the 6K I dropped for my new YZ250 was a lot... :-/
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$8k for a dirt bike. Yowza!

It will be interesting to see what the offroad guys do. Good luck getting an oversize tank on that thing.
TMV wrote:
Here in France you can afford a 2010 CRF 450R for 8,290 Euros, which corresponds to...... (snare)............ TA DA !! 12,000 USD
RuFfRyDaH wrote:
moo domt do that...dont remind me that we are fucked in europe...
Do you get good deals on KTM, Gas Gas, and Husky?
Devil1nNj
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9/8/2009 12:57pm
TMV wrote:
Here in France you can afford a 2010 CRF 450R for 8,290 Euros, which corresponds to...... (snare)............ TA DA !! 12,000 USD
RuFfRyDaH wrote:
moo domt do that...dont remind me that we are fucked in europe...
Void Main wrote:
Do you get good deals on KTM, Gas Gas, and Husky?
If so, yeah , you are Fd... LOL JK Tongue
bogdan912
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9/8/2009 12:59pm
I like it, definitely want to ride one.
slowvet
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9/8/2009 1:04pm
Wonder if that dog'll hunt.
TMV
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9/8/2009 1:04pm Edited Date/Time 9/8/2009 1:08pm
Void Main wrote:
Do you get good deals on KTM, Gas Gas, and Husky?
Good deal, not really, both arms instead... 8,450 Euros for a KTM 450 SX-F...
roost251
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9/8/2009 1:15pm
nothing new here to see, move along now, lol
indy_maico
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9/8/2009 1:26pm Edited Date/Time 9/8/2009 1:28pm
zookie wrote:
The engine looks fantastic...it should be extremely powerful due to the intake and the offset crank. I am very, very skeptical at the exhaust loop thing...
The engine looks fantastic...it should be extremely powerful due to the intake and the offset crank. I am very, very skeptical at the exhaust loop thing with respect to overheating the shock. I am also very skeptical of the intake with respect to dust, dirt, and water ingestion and if you take a digger into powder or sand...will it fill the airbox with said debris?

Cool bike, props to Yamaha for coming up with something so different people will buy it just to be different....a chip off the Honda block of 2 pipes, aluminum frames, blah blah blah.
It looks like they might have a nice heat shield between the 'tornado' bit of the pipe and the shock reservoir. Should be OK.
Tiki
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Any word on the WR 450? Is that getting the same face lift?
indy_maico
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9/8/2009 1:33pm
indy_maico wrote:
It looks like they might have a nice heat shield between the 'tornado' bit of the pipe and the shock reservoir. Should be OK.
Looking at another pic, it looks like the tornado bit is completely enclosed, and shouldn't radiate any heat towards the shock.
6ixeight
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9/8/2009 1:34pm
Looks intense, great style, does look better than the 250F
Pretty crazy that the manufactures are asking so much for dirtbikes now, I cant justify another $12 000 on a dirt bike

Rebuilding my 08 CRF450 for sure!
mjskier
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9/8/2009 1:44pm
TMV wrote:
Here in France you can afford a 2010 CRF 450R for 8,290 Euros, which corresponds to...... (snare)............ TA DA !! 12,000 USD
That's the TVA for you (VAT for the English speaking)
Even back in the mid 80's a dist bike cost almost twice as much in France than in the US.
You guys should start another revolution and get the guillotine out of storage...
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Definitely looks great! But does it actually work better? The mass centralization seems like a good idea, but all the weight has been moved back. Does the geometry and suspension account for that or will it take them a year or two to sort it out? The engine changes ought to enable them to make plenty of power! Why so tall and heavy?
Crash82
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9/8/2009 1:55pm
It's cool that your pipe won't be getting dinged up. These are some drastic changes, I would wait until 2011 to buy one, let everyone else work the bugs out.
JW381
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9/8/2009 1:57pm
If going heavier means more durable parts that won't break so easily, then I'm all for it.
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9/8/2009 1:59pm
The mass centralization ideas are exactly what the 4 sroke mx bikes need and Yamaha seems to have figured it out. As did they account for the changes? Looks like they did by lengthning the fork 10mm going to 22mm offset clamps and aas for the weight if it's centalized I doubt you'll even feel it. On the durability side I think this bike should last a little longer (top end wise) as the offset crank allows for equal downward pressure not just to one side like before reducing piston rock.......bigger gas tank might be a wee bit of a problem but I don't see why this won't be one of the best 450's ever produced based on the ideas and forward thinking I've always thought the 4 stroke bike needed very different chassis engineering to make them work not just borrowed ideas from previous 2 stroke design
mxcrf34
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The mass centralization ideas are exactly what the 4 sroke mx bikes need and Yamaha seems to have figured it out. As did they account for...
The mass centralization ideas are exactly what the 4 sroke mx bikes need and Yamaha seems to have figured it out. As did they account for the changes? Looks like they did by lengthning the fork 10mm going to 22mm offset clamps and aas for the weight if it's centalized I doubt you'll even feel it. On the durability side I think this bike should last a little longer (top end wise) as the offset crank allows for equal downward pressure not just to one side like before reducing piston rock.......bigger gas tank might be a wee bit of a problem but I don't see why this won't be one of the best 450's ever produced based on the ideas and forward thinking I've always thought the 4 stroke bike needed very different chassis engineering to make them work not just borrowed ideas from previous 2 stroke design
As with any new bike, there are bugs that are going to get worked out. Im excited to see what the magazines think. The whole rear exhaust actually makes more sense to me...more effiecient? Probably, but still, this thing is going to be a killer to work on like Pat327 said
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9/8/2009 2:39pm
Just another POS Yamaha to me. I would ride a Husapig before that Hog.

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