2023 KTM SX300 Official Thread

11/25/2022 10:28am Edited Date/Time 11/25/2022 10:31am
Bearuno wrote:
You keep the graphics very simple - well, I guess you do compared to so many peoples 'artwork' ! But, flamin' heck / hooly dooly, [b]langhammx...
You keep the graphics very simple - well, I guess you do compared to so many peoples 'artwork' !

But, flamin' heck / hooly dooly, langhammx , on a brief, far from accurate count I just made, I reckon you've got over 50 brand names / emblems on (each of) those Beautiful bikes. Woohoo And yes, I realize that most are on big, custom made decal panels. Cool

Me, I thought I just had the 5 on my ancient old thing, but No, I realized that there is an Acerbis decal on the front disc guard, and, I have a strip of duct tape on the rear fender to cover my number plate, that's there to place if there are cameras / 'concerned citizens' with mobile phones that think I'm not supposed to be on trails that I've ridden on for more than 5 decades.

As far as I know, everywhere I go is legal, especially with a legit plate, and an as quiet as a grumpy mouse exhaust, but you never know when the rabid greenies have decided to close off an area, from we tax payers, without telling us. It's getting a bit silly in the Blue Mountains - places that have had roads and trails in them, for at least a hundred + years, that never change, well, they are now designating as Wilderness.
Have a nice day, hopefully you can get out and poach them trails they keep taking away…they are doing the same here, they won’t even register the new bike’s here anymore for public trails.
I’ll be out riding at my property with some of the other 250+ land owners of one of the most diverse terrains we have here in Sunny So California. A few thousand acres of combined land that brings out some of the most accomplished riders/ racers.
The only problem we have is trying to keep the motorcycles off of the PCT (pacific coast trail) that runs through the middle of the area. The ones who don’t own land and think it’s ok to ride there, are trying to ruin it for us all, by doing this ! The PCT is plainly marked with signs to please stay off the hiking trail, but some feel they are above that and ride on them anyways. It’s a problem that requires constant attention from the ones who own land there.

“But, flamin' heck / hooly dooly, langhammx , on a brief, far from accurate count I just made, I reckon you've got over 50 brand names / emblems on (each of) those Beautiful bikes. w00t And yes, I realize that most are on big, custom made decal panels. cool”
~ to each their own bud, it take it you like em plain Jane style. No problem, we are all entitled to dress em up how we please, right ?
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mxrider118 wrote:
Had anyone tried Sunoco Race Fuel Optima on two strokes 95 octane. More looking for a consistent fuel than our local pump gas.
Exactly what i run in my 2013 250sx and a 2002 YZ250. Amsoil Dominator at 50:1. Amazing!
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Bearuno wrote:
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as they say. I find the grey plastic to be ghastly. Now, the 'Heritage Models'; they are quite...
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as they say.

I find the grey plastic to be ghastly.

Now, the 'Heritage Models'; they are quite nice :

......



Can't argue with you about those Heritage Editions. Those are awesome looking. I'm tempted to get those plastics and put them on my regular TC250. Would go nice with the blue frame.
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Bearuno wrote:
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as they say. I find the grey plastic to be ghastly. Now, the 'Heritage Models'; they are quite...
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as they say.

I find the grey plastic to be ghastly.

Now, the 'Heritage Models'; they are quite nice :

......



stonerb wrote:
Can't argue with you about those Heritage Editions. Those are awesome looking. I'm tempted to get those plastics and put them on my regular TC250. Would...
Can't argue with you about those Heritage Editions. Those are awesome looking. I'm tempted to get those plastics and put them on my regular TC250. Would go nice with the blue frame.
I did a Package deal from Decal Works on plastic and graphics.




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Does anyone have info on the 2024 gas gas two stroke line?
Will they have a mc300? Mc125, mc250??
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2-slow MX wrote:
Just picked my son up the new 125. I'm seeing tons of guys getting their 300's but very few have the 125 yet. Just wondering if...
Just picked my son up the new 125. I'm seeing tons of guys getting their 300's but very few have the 125 yet. Just wondering if anyone is noticing a bog or cutting out at the top of the revs on the bigger bores? Obviously they're not revved out quite as much as the 125's but worth asking.

The 125 is awesome in every way except it cuts out bad at the top of the rev range (to a point it's unsafe to hit jumps). Seemed like a powervalve issue at first. All the way from idle thru mid range it sounds great, then right as you should be getting into the powerband she just signs off and starts sputtering. Tried to reset the powervalve limits using the little "wake up" tool that came with it. That seemed to clean it up a tad but it's still there.

Have a call in to KTM already but was just wondering if anyone else has experienced anything like it on the new bikes.
Mike1611 wrote:
So what you a describing is identical to what my young boy is experiencing on his tc125. He would go into a whoop section at a...
So what you a describing is identical to what my young boy is experiencing on his tc125. He would go into a whoop section at a local track and just as he'd get into the second hit the bike bogged/cut bad on him. He said it was worse on the green map(I'm still not sure which is lean and which is rich map). I got on the bike and after I was able to be aggressive on the throttle in a fast section of the track I felt it to. I tried switching the gas to 25percent vp race gas and still the same. Did the TPS sensor end up working for you? Thanks
Sorry for the delay. Been at Mini O's all week with no internet.

KTM was positive that it was the TPS. I took it to the dealer and they hooked it up to the computer and using the idle adjustment knob and fast idle button/knob they set it to where "it was supposed to be". This was at the direction of KTM. It didn't do anything... They told me NOT to adjust the actual TPS.

This was probably a dumb idea but i was tired of waiting around and our dealer is like 2 hours away - I wanted to adjust the damn TPS but didn't have the pigtail connector to set it by voltage. So i just sat and ever so slightly adjusted it until it ran right. Revs out fine now. I want to get a connector to check the voltage and get it perfect because every once in a while it will have a slight bog but it's much better now.

Havent messed with it in a week or 2 now b/c we were at Mini O's racing other bikes and took the suspension off to get done a few days before leaving.


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I put about 1hr on mine today riding a muddy MX track, I love the power. It pulls out of deep muddy ruts great and long uphills that were muddy were nothing for it.
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11/27/2022 1:27pm Edited Date/Time 11/27/2022 2:10pm
2-slow MX wrote:
Just picked my son up the new 125. I'm seeing tons of guys getting their 300's but very few have the 125 yet. Just wondering if...
Just picked my son up the new 125. I'm seeing tons of guys getting their 300's but very few have the 125 yet. Just wondering if anyone is noticing a bog or cutting out at the top of the revs on the bigger bores? Obviously they're not revved out quite as much as the 125's but worth asking.

The 125 is awesome in every way except it cuts out bad at the top of the rev range (to a point it's unsafe to hit jumps). Seemed like a powervalve issue at first. All the way from idle thru mid range it sounds great, then right as you should be getting into the powerband she just signs off and starts sputtering. Tried to reset the powervalve limits using the little "wake up" tool that came with it. That seemed to clean it up a tad but it's still there.

Have a call in to KTM already but was just wondering if anyone else has experienced anything like it on the new bikes.
Mike1611 wrote:
So what you a describing is identical to what my young boy is experiencing on his tc125. He would go into a whoop section at a...
So what you a describing is identical to what my young boy is experiencing on his tc125. He would go into a whoop section at a local track and just as he'd get into the second hit the bike bogged/cut bad on him. He said it was worse on the green map(I'm still not sure which is lean and which is rich map). I got on the bike and after I was able to be aggressive on the throttle in a fast section of the track I felt it to. I tried switching the gas to 25percent vp race gas and still the same. Did the TPS sensor end up working for you? Thanks
2-slow MX wrote:
Sorry for the delay. Been at Mini O's all week with no internet. KTM was positive that it was the TPS. I took it to the...
Sorry for the delay. Been at Mini O's all week with no internet.

KTM was positive that it was the TPS. I took it to the dealer and they hooked it up to the computer and using the idle adjustment knob and fast idle button/knob they set it to where "it was supposed to be". This was at the direction of KTM. It didn't do anything... They told me NOT to adjust the actual TPS.

This was probably a dumb idea but i was tired of waiting around and our dealer is like 2 hours away - I wanted to adjust the damn TPS but didn't have the pigtail connector to set it by voltage. So i just sat and ever so slightly adjusted it until it ran right. Revs out fine now. I want to get a connector to check the voltage and get it perfect because every once in a while it will have a slight bog but it's much better now.

Havent messed with it in a week or 2 now b/c we were at Mini O's racing other bikes and took the suspension off to get done a few days before leaving.


No problem for the delay. I've been live streaming the mini os when I can, I bet being there was wicked!

I have seen some of the videos kicking around on Youtube about adjusting the TPS and it has been somewhat conflicting. Some say you can richen and lean out across the throttle range by changing the initial voltage and some say it only affects throttle just off idle. It would make sense to me that the whole throttle range has been affected with the move of the TPS but I'm no expert. There does seem to be an nice meter you can buy(TPSTool.com) to help with this.

It's winter now where I'm at so the bike is holed up for the season but might as well give it a shot. Thanks for the update on your situation and if anything improves on your end I'd love to hear about it. Don't want to see my kid get wadded up (or anyone's) out on the track because the bike cuts
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HGS out with a pipe/silencer for the 23 125,250 and 300. Different pipe design than the FMF..


11/28/2022 5:27am
MH434 wrote:
HGS out with a pipe/silencer for the 23 125,250 and 300. Different pipe design than the FMF.. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/11/28/578647/s1200_B94C572C_6D41_49F2_9944_2452A85AABC4.jpg[/img]
HGS out with a pipe/silencer for the 23 125,250 and 300. Different pipe design than the FMF..


wonder how they compare to the fmf and where can they be purchased in Canada.
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300SX…I think they have done a very good job with the stock pipe & silencer. Have to ask yourself…are you a lugger/ short shifter or Rev kind of rider. If I were riding Enduros/ GNCC, I would get the FMF gnarly… MX rider, would be the FMF Fatty…I would be hesitant to buy a pipe for this bike without seeing dyno charts, KTM is known for making very good performing stock pipes….
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mxrider118 wrote:
wonder how they compare to the fmf and where can they be purchased in Canada.
My guess is that the HGS will be more top-end pipe, but i’m sure others here can tell a bit more just by looking how they are shaped differently.
11/28/2022 6:00am
sandman768 wrote:
300SX…I think they have done a very good job with the stock pipe & silencer. Have to ask yourself…are you a lugger/ short shifter or Rev...
300SX…I think they have done a very good job with the stock pipe & silencer. Have to ask yourself…are you a lugger/ short shifter or Rev kind of rider. If I were riding Enduros/ GNCC, I would get the FMF gnarly… MX rider, would be the FMF Fatty…I would be hesitant to buy a pipe for this bike without seeing dyno charts, KTM is known for making very good performing stock pipes….
I had two hours on the stock setup and was very impressed. Did one ride on the fatty and 2.1 silencer and did notice a little more mid-top and a nicer sound is for sure.

Winter is here so more testing to come..
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Does anyone have any sound clips of the FMF ti 2.1 on their 300?
11/28/2022 6:25am
PatH wrote:
Does anyone have any sound clips of the FMF ti 2.1 on their 300?
I can try and get one
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mxrider118 wrote:
I had two hours on the stock setup and was very impressed. Did one ride on the fatty and 2.1 silencer and did notice a little...
I had two hours on the stock setup and was very impressed. Did one ride on the fatty and 2.1 silencer and did notice a little more mid-top and a nicer sound is for sure.

Winter is here so more testing to come..
Stock system does a good job of bridging the gap for good o/all power spread… definitely need a spare pipe on a 2T…For years the KTM”s came with long silencer’s… and everyone put shorter ones on… now they come with a shorter silencer & everyone going with a longer one…..go figure?
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The biggest problem with the stock ktm 2t pipes and silencers isn’t the performance, it is the price when you have to replace them. I don’t know why oem exhausts cost as much or more than aftermarket. 4 strokes are the same way and before anyone jumps all over ktm for high parts prices check out what Honda charges for a 4t muffler.
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FMF fatty with 2.1 shorty does for sure make more power, it’s a noticeable change.
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I’m waiting for PPS to come out with theirs, bike should scream



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Finally brought my TX300 home-you guys with the XC models-did they come with o-ring chains?  I noticed mine didn't which is strange because my '20 did.  

Gonna start tearing into it today to grease the chassis and I'll have a pile of parts on the way this week too.  Hoping we get some good weather soon to go break it in. 

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2-slow MX wrote:
Just picked my son up the new 125. I'm seeing tons of guys getting their 300's but very few have the 125 yet. Just wondering if...
Just picked my son up the new 125. I'm seeing tons of guys getting their 300's but very few have the 125 yet. Just wondering if anyone is noticing a bog or cutting out at the top of the revs on the bigger bores? Obviously they're not revved out quite as much as the 125's but worth asking.

The 125 is awesome in every way except it cuts out bad at the top of the rev range (to a point it's unsafe to hit jumps). Seemed like a powervalve issue at first. All the way from idle thru mid range it sounds great, then right as you should be getting into the powerband she just signs off and starts sputtering. Tried to reset the powervalve limits using the little "wake up" tool that came with it. That seemed to clean it up a tad but it's still there.

Have a call in to KTM already but was just wondering if anyone else has experienced anything like it on the new bikes.
Mike1611 wrote:
So what you a describing is identical to what my young boy is experiencing on his tc125. He would go into a whoop section at a...
So what you a describing is identical to what my young boy is experiencing on his tc125. He would go into a whoop section at a local track and just as he'd get into the second hit the bike bogged/cut bad on him. He said it was worse on the green map(I'm still not sure which is lean and which is rich map). I got on the bike and after I was able to be aggressive on the throttle in a fast section of the track I felt it to. I tried switching the gas to 25percent vp race gas and still the same. Did the TPS sensor end up working for you? Thanks
2-slow MX wrote:
Sorry for the delay. Been at Mini O's all week with no internet. KTM was positive that it was the TPS. I took it to the...
Sorry for the delay. Been at Mini O's all week with no internet.

KTM was positive that it was the TPS. I took it to the dealer and they hooked it up to the computer and using the idle adjustment knob and fast idle button/knob they set it to where "it was supposed to be". This was at the direction of KTM. It didn't do anything... They told me NOT to adjust the actual TPS.

This was probably a dumb idea but i was tired of waiting around and our dealer is like 2 hours away - I wanted to adjust the damn TPS but didn't have the pigtail connector to set it by voltage. So i just sat and ever so slightly adjusted it until it ran right. Revs out fine now. I want to get a connector to check the voltage and get it perfect because every once in a while it will have a slight bog but it's much better now.

Havent messed with it in a week or 2 now b/c we were at Mini O's racing other bikes and took the suspension off to get done a few days before leaving.


What ratio are you guys running?  Seems like a lot of people are adding more oil then called for and it’s leaning the bike out and causing them to run hotter. 

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You guys see what RK Tek is claiming for HP gains with a head insert
 

12/4/2022 7:43am Edited Date/Time 12/4/2022 7:49am
UGOTBIT wrote:
You guys see what RK Tek is claiming for HP gains with a head insert  

You guys see what RK Tek is claiming for HP gains with a head insert
 

9HP gains ? 
c’mon man…. Tongue

I’m sorry, I’m not buying that. But it will be interesting to see what these motor builders can do with these new motors 

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60:1 vs 40:1 changes the oil percentage from 1.67% to 2.5%. So running 40:1 is going to lean it out by 0.8%.  You can get a bigger mixture change from getting a fill at different stations. E10 pump is about 4% leaner than e0 pump. 
 

I have trouble believing any head insert could add 9hp. Based on my experience on a ktm 125 the rk tek head traded top end for bottom end. I bet it made less peak power on the dyno. It sure didn’t run into the rev limiter near as hard as stock. 

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UGOTBIT wrote:
You guys see what RK Tek is claiming for HP gains with a head insert  

You guys see what RK Tek is claiming for HP gains with a head insert
 

Langhammx wrote:
9HP gains ?  c’mon man….  I’m sorry, I’m not buying that. But it will be interesting to see what these motor builders can do with these...

9HP gains ? 
c’mon man…. Tongue

I’m sorry, I’m not buying that. But it will be interesting to see what these motor builders can do with these new motors 

I agree, calling bullshit on this one too!
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Mike1611 wrote:
So what you a describing is identical to what my young boy is experiencing on his tc125. He would go into a whoop section at a...
So what you a describing is identical to what my young boy is experiencing on his tc125. He would go into a whoop section at a local track and just as he'd get into the second hit the bike bogged/cut bad on him. He said it was worse on the green map(I'm still not sure which is lean and which is rich map). I got on the bike and after I was able to be aggressive on the throttle in a fast section of the track I felt it to. I tried switching the gas to 25percent vp race gas and still the same. Did the TPS sensor end up working for you? Thanks
2-slow MX wrote:
Sorry for the delay. Been at Mini O's all week with no internet. KTM was positive that it was the TPS. I took it to the...
Sorry for the delay. Been at Mini O's all week with no internet.

KTM was positive that it was the TPS. I took it to the dealer and they hooked it up to the computer and using the idle adjustment knob and fast idle button/knob they set it to where "it was supposed to be". This was at the direction of KTM. It didn't do anything... They told me NOT to adjust the actual TPS.

This was probably a dumb idea but i was tired of waiting around and our dealer is like 2 hours away - I wanted to adjust the damn TPS but didn't have the pigtail connector to set it by voltage. So i just sat and ever so slightly adjusted it until it ran right. Revs out fine now. I want to get a connector to check the voltage and get it perfect because every once in a while it will have a slight bog but it's much better now.

Havent messed with it in a week or 2 now b/c we were at Mini O's racing other bikes and took the suspension off to get done a few days before leaving.


soggy wrote:
What ratio are you guys running?  Seems like a lot of people are adding more oil then called for and it’s leaning the bike out and...

What ratio are you guys running?  Seems like a lot of people are adding more oil then called for and it’s leaning the bike out and causing them to run hotter. 

Running what the oem suggest and tested the bile too, 60:1. On a 23 TX 300 and it rips.
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12/4/2022 7:53am Edited Date/Time 12/4/2022 7:55am
UGOTBIT wrote:
You guys see what RK Tek is claiming for HP gains with a head insert  

You guys see what RK Tek is claiming for HP gains with a head insert
 

Langhammx wrote:
9HP gains ?  c’mon man….  I’m sorry, I’m not buying that. But it will be interesting to see what these motor builders can do with these...

9HP gains ? 
c’mon man…. Tongue

I’m sorry, I’m not buying that. But it will be interesting to see what these motor builders can do with these new motors 

“9hp gain at peak rpm”

This just means it carries the hp for a couple hundred more rpm before dropping off. 

It’s not a 9hp increase at peak power. 

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UGOTBIT wrote:
You guys see what RK Tek is claiming for HP gains with a head insert  

You guys see what RK Tek is claiming for HP gains with a head insert
 

Langhammx wrote:
9HP gains ?  c’mon man….  I’m sorry, I’m not buying that. But it will be interesting to see what these motor builders can do with these...

9HP gains ? 
c’mon man…. Tongue

I’m sorry, I’m not buying that. But it will be interesting to see what these motor builders can do with these new motors 

Magic Man wrote:
I agree, calling bullshit on this one too!

9HP would be huge, I agree. Just sharing what's out there 

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Broseph wrote:
“9hp gain at peak rpm” This just means it carries the hp for a couple hundred more rpm before dropping off.  It’s not a 9hp increase...

“9hp gain at peak rpm”

This just means it carries the hp for a couple hundred more rpm before dropping off. 

It’s not a 9hp increase at peak power. 

When I read it slow that makes more sense lol.

 

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I would like to see the curves. Adding 9hp out at 10k rpm where a 300 shows 25 hp would be interesting. I wonder how much peak hp they had to give up to get that. 

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