WTF is going on in China....

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Edited Date/Time 11/28/2022 7:07pm
Lock downs, riots, fires and GDP going down. Should we be gearing up for Covid round 2? What do the Chinese know that we don't? What the hell is in this virus that's so bad that they're willing to destroy their economy again?
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Lock downs, riots, fires and GDP going down. Should we be gearing up for Covid round 2? What do the Chinese know that we don't? What...
Lock downs, riots, fires and GDP going down. Should we be gearing up for Covid round 2? What do the Chinese know that we don't? What the hell is in this virus that's so bad that they're willing to destroy their economy again?
Fear and submission seem to be its main ingredients!

………oh shit, here we go again. [click]MUTT[\click] 😎
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I read something that a new sars covid was found in bats in China. Wouldn't be shocked if we get that soon.
China's covid vaccine was made in China... so naturally it sucks. Turns out spraying streets with disinfectant and killing dogs doesn't get rid of covid and an oppressive govt is bound to lead to an uprising.
Seems it's starting. Maybe it's not.

More and more reason everyday to not buy Chinese garbage.
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colintrax wrote:
I read something that a new sars covid was found in bats in China. Wouldn't be shocked if we get that soon. China's covid vaccine was...
I read something that a new sars covid was found in bats in China. Wouldn't be shocked if we get that soon.
China's covid vaccine was made in China... so naturally it sucks. Turns out spraying streets with disinfectant and killing dogs doesn't get rid of covid and an oppressive govt is bound to lead to an uprising.
Seems it's starting. Maybe it's not.

More and more reason everyday to not buy Chinese garbage.
[sarcasm]Nah, let’s keep them in business, as we burn our Russian oil. They were such gracious hosts for the Olympics. [\sarcasm]
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11/26/2022 11:22pm
colintrax wrote:
I read something that a new sars covid was found in bats in China. Wouldn't be shocked if we get that soon. China's covid vaccine was...
I read something that a new sars covid was found in bats in China. Wouldn't be shocked if we get that soon.
China's covid vaccine was made in China... so naturally it sucks. Turns out spraying streets with disinfectant and killing dogs doesn't get rid of covid and an oppressive govt is bound to lead to an uprising.
Seems it's starting. Maybe it's not.

More and more reason everyday to not buy Chinese garbage.
Right before covid started they were protesting in the streets for democracy in China. The timing was a little bit suspicious
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11/26/2022 11:48pm
From my understanding they have always had a zero covid policy. The fact that they had close to zero cases while we had millions was a point of immense pride for them.

They have basically backed themselves into a corner. There is no way back to the pre-covid world without letting cases increase.

Totalitarian shithole doing totalitarian shithole things.
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From my understanding they have always had a zero covid policy. The fact that they had close to zero cases while we had millions was a...
From my understanding they have always had a zero covid policy. The fact that they had close to zero cases while we had millions was a point of immense pride for them.

They have basically backed themselves into a corner. There is no way back to the pre-covid world without letting cases increase.

Totalitarian shithole doing totalitarian shithole things.
Yeah, I’m sure China actually had zero cases while the rest of the world had hundreds of thousands/millions. I mean why would they lie?
Oh wait…
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2021/10/22/china-linked-accounts-spread-lies-covid-came-lobsters-myth/6119850001/
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Sully wrote:
Yeah, I’m sure China actually had zero cases while the rest of the world had hundreds of thousands/millions. I mean why would they lie? Oh wait...
Yeah, I’m sure China actually had zero cases while the rest of the world had hundreds of thousands/millions. I mean why would they lie?
Oh wait…
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2021/10/22/china-linked-accounts-spread-lies-covid-came-lobsters-myth/6119850001/
Close to zero was probably the wrong turn of phrase. But with the insane measures they have taken I don't doubt that the numbers are a hell of a lot lower than the west.
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Close to zero was probably the wrong turn of phrase. But with the insane measures they have taken I don't doubt that the numbers are a...
Close to zero was probably the wrong turn of phrase. But with the insane measures they have taken I don't doubt that the numbers are a hell of a lot lower than the west.
Maybe less as a percentage of their population.

But when you've got such a massive population, well, a small percentage becomes a Big number of deaths.

Look, I'd not believe a f**king thing that comes out of China, on nearly Any subject.

It is, as our 'Mad' King George 111 said, a Totalitarian Shithole (though, with a whole Lot of Bling - cripes, the changes in Shanghai I've seen since first going there in the 80s, step by step over the ensuing decades, just Boggles the mind) with, no matter what anyone says, complete Government control over Every Bloody Thing.

I guarantee they've had Millions die there from Covid, even with their Shut Downs / Lock Ups. With what has been pretty thoroughly shown a largely ineffective Vaccine / set of Vaccines that they have, well, I'm sure they've many, many square miles of graves, or, more likely, many crematories going full throttle since early 2020.

The various, severely restricted and blocked reportage and examination of China's utterly reprehensible handling of the initial start of Covid 19, show that they broke all rules and standards for disease control and disclosure.

That, is just a complete betrayal of humanity.

And, I doubt they ( well, we've) learned much of a lesson about the dangers of pandemics. I believe we will have far worse to come in the future, and while a regime / regimes will indulge in such denial, cover up and inaction, we will loose Millions, and destroy the Worlds economy through such bastards as Xi Jinping and his minions hubris, lies and dishonesty.
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From my understanding they have always had a zero covid policy. The fact that they had close to zero cases while we had millions was a...
From my understanding they have always had a zero covid policy. The fact that they had close to zero cases while we had millions was a point of immense pride for them.

They have basically backed themselves into a corner. There is no way back to the pre-covid world without letting cases increase.

Totalitarian shithole doing totalitarian shithole things.
China having close to zero cases and fact do not go together in the same sentence.
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Close to zero was probably the wrong turn of phrase. But with the insane measures they have taken I don't doubt that the numbers are a...
Close to zero was probably the wrong turn of phrase. But with the insane measures they have taken I don't doubt that the numbers are a hell of a lot lower than the west.
Bearuno wrote:
Maybe less as a percentage of their population. But when you've got such a massive population, well, a small percentage becomes a Big number of deaths...
Maybe less as a percentage of their population.

But when you've got such a massive population, well, a small percentage becomes a Big number of deaths.

Look, I'd not believe a f**king thing that comes out of China, on nearly Any subject.

It is, as our 'Mad' King George 111 said, a Totalitarian Shithole (though, with a whole Lot of Bling - cripes, the changes in Shanghai I've seen since first going there in the 80s, step by step over the ensuing decades, just Boggles the mind) with, no matter what anyone says, complete Government control over Every Bloody Thing.

I guarantee they've had Millions die there from Covid, even with their Shut Downs / Lock Ups. With what has been pretty thoroughly shown a largely ineffective Vaccine / set of Vaccines that they have, well, I'm sure they've many, many square miles of graves, or, more likely, many crematories going full throttle since early 2020.

The various, severely restricted and blocked reportage and examination of China's utterly reprehensible handling of the initial start of Covid 19, show that they broke all rules and standards for disease control and disclosure.

That, is just a complete betrayal of humanity.

And, I doubt they ( well, we've) learned much of a lesson about the dangers of pandemics. I believe we will have far worse to come in the future, and while a regime / regimes will indulge in such denial, cover up and inaction, we will loose Millions, and destroy the Worlds economy through such bastards as Xi Jinping and his minions hubris, lies and dishonesty.
What were you going to Shanghi for in the 80s? I went many times in the 90s and it was not the easiest to go there. Going there for work you had to have a government sponsor and the approval process was not short. Fortunately I was helping set up a Gatorade plant and Quaker took care of all that. But you couldn't throw a rock without hitting a crane at another high-rise construction site. It was said there were more hammerhead cranes in Shanghai than all of the US during that time.
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Did either of you ever get a Shanghai Surprise?

Sorry, I don’t even know what the hell that means.
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Would you trust these men?




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What were you going to Shanghi for in the 80s? I went many times in the 90s and it was not the easiest to go there...
What were you going to Shanghi for in the 80s? I went many times in the 90s and it was not the easiest to go there. Going there for work you had to have a government sponsor and the approval process was not short. Fortunately I was helping set up a Gatorade plant and Quaker took care of all that. But you couldn't throw a rock without hitting a crane at another high-rise construction site. It was said there were more hammerhead cranes in Shanghai than all of the US during that time.
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Went there for a variety of 'things'.

We Australians probably had a far easier time with Visas than Americans ever had, but yes, you'd need to jump through a lot of hoops to be there, for anything but the brief time you'd spend there for say, Trade shows.

But, with the way things are now, with them deciding Australia is the small ( by population ) Western country they want to f**k over / treat as a Vassal state, I've no desire to go there anymore. I get paid better, with far more 'freedom' of movement, and interesting work, working elsewhere. Not that I do much OS work nowadays. That's of course down to the last few years s**t storm(s), but also my being a bit over it all. I'm getting old, and fragile, too. Travel Insurance is becoming quite difficult to get, and that's bloody important Sad

Yes, you're not wrong on the crane / construction side of things - just incredible the changes in the Shanghai, and other major, and not so major cities skylines, over the decades I've gone there. Well, anywhere in Asia, for that matter. I find people who've not seen it for themselves, never remotely understand / believe how vast the building is.
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11/27/2022 9:30pm Edited Date/Time 11/27/2022 9:37pm
Chance1216 wrote:
I didn’t know drones were used to fight Covid.
https://youtu.be/1tIoGyrvsfU
Talk about Performative Theatre of Bull S**t...........

Yes, sure you'll have a certain percentage of sycophant's / idiots that might 'buy' such thing, but, the vast majority of the Chinese people must be viewing this crap with incredulity.

Winnie the Pooh and his minions must think his people are cretins.
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11/27/2022 10:30pm Edited Date/Time 11/27/2022 10:34pm
Bearuno wrote:
Talk about Performative Theatre of Bull S**t........... Yes, sure you'll have a certain percentage of sycophant's / idiots that might 'buy' such thing, but, the vast...
Talk about Performative Theatre of Bull S**t...........

Yes, sure you'll have a certain percentage of sycophant's / idiots that might 'buy' such thing, but, the vast majority of the Chinese people must be viewing this crap with incredulity.

Winnie the Pooh and his minions must think his people are cretins.
From 2020. Apparently drones were used to spray disinfectant during the pandemic. https://www.scmp.com/abacus/tech/article/3048786/coronavirus-spreads-ch…

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colintrax wrote:
I read something that a new sars covid was found in bats in China. Wouldn't be shocked if we get that soon. China's covid vaccine was...
I read something that a new sars covid was found in bats in China. Wouldn't be shocked if we get that soon.
China's covid vaccine was made in China... so naturally it sucks. Turns out spraying streets with disinfectant and killing dogs doesn't get rid of covid and an oppressive govt is bound to lead to an uprising.
Seems it's starting. Maybe it's not.

More and more reason everyday to not buy Chinese garbage.
It's damn near impossible to avoid products made in china.
Especially online.

I'll glady pay premium prices for American made products.
Finding them is a bitch.
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Been off the grid this weekend.
Just read about the turmoil over there.
Those are some brave people considering the murderous regime they're revolting against.

Proves that freedom is hardwired into us all.
And at some point any, and everyone, will finally stand up and say, enough.
Goes for Iranians too.
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Been off the grid this weekend. Just read about the turmoil over there. Those are some brave people considering the murderous regime they're revolting against. Proves...
Been off the grid this weekend.
Just read about the turmoil over there.
Those are some brave people considering the murderous regime they're revolting against.

Proves that freedom is hardwired into us all.
And at some point any, and everyone, will finally stand up and say, enough.
Goes for Iranians too.
There’s still some Americans who think Socialism is a good idea.
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It’s like they read 1984, Brave New World, and watched Psycho Pass and came away thinking “YEAH! Let’s do that!”

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I have a theory that China intentionally put the world on lockdown because of the yellow-vest protests that were going on in Hong Kong.
It's been interesting watching Americans and the US media portraying these people in China as "lockdown protesters" while here at home they were treated as "anti-vaxxers" and "conspiracy theorists." What Trudeau did to the Canadian truckers was straight out of China. What a dictator he is.
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11/28/2022 11:52am Edited Date/Time 11/28/2022 11:53am
Moto Nomad wrote:
I have a theory that China intentionally put the world on lockdown because of the yellow-vest protests that were going on in Hong Kong. It's been...
I have a theory that China intentionally put the world on lockdown because of the yellow-vest protests that were going on in Hong Kong.
It's been interesting watching Americans and the US media portraying these people in China as "lockdown protesters" while here at home they were treated as "anti-vaxxers" and "conspiracy theorists." What Trudeau did to the Canadian truckers was straight out of China. What a dictator he is.
People still don’t see it for what it is/was. This is some new world we’re moving towards here, and by the time everyone who are ignoring all of the signs realize what happened it will be too late.
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People still don’t see it for what it is/was. This is some new world we’re moving towards here, and by the time everyone who are ignoring...
People still don’t see it for what it is/was. This is some new world we’re moving towards here, and by the time everyone who are ignoring all of the signs realize what happened it will be too late.
We walked our way in, we’ll have to sh##t our way out……….
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My Mother-in-law is from Taiwan and I talk to her about what’s going on over there often. She says there are rumors of a huge CCP crackdown coming soon and at night to try and keep it quiet. Also, a possible action on Taiwan to distract. Huge geopolitical ramifications here.
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Moto Nomad wrote:
I have a theory that China intentionally put the world on lockdown because of the yellow-vest protests that were going on in Hong Kong. It's been...
I have a theory that China intentionally put the world on lockdown because of the yellow-vest protests that were going on in Hong Kong.
It's been interesting watching Americans and the US media portraying these people in China as "lockdown protesters" while here at home they were treated as "anti-vaxxers" and "conspiracy theorists." What Trudeau did to the Canadian truckers was straight out of China. What a dictator he is.
I still can't believe how the minions followed the narrative allllllll the way to shutting the Nation down.

So embarrassed for The Followers: They cry "Fascist!" as they actually follow fascism down the rabbit hole of their own demise.
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Moto Nomad wrote:
I have a theory that China intentionally put the world on lockdown because of the yellow-vest protests that were going on in Hong Kong. It's been...
I have a theory that China intentionally put the world on lockdown because of the yellow-vest protests that were going on in Hong Kong.
It's been interesting watching Americans and the US media portraying these people in China as "lockdown protesters" while here at home they were treated as "anti-vaxxers" and "conspiracy theorists." What Trudeau did to the Canadian truckers was straight out of China. What a dictator he is.
TeamGreen wrote:
I still can't believe how the minions followed the narrative allllllll the way to shutting the Nation down. So embarrassed for The Followers: They cry "Fascist!"...
I still can't believe how the minions followed the narrative allllllll the way to shutting the Nation down.

So embarrassed for The Followers: They cry "Fascist!" as they actually follow fascism down the rabbit hole of their own demise.
I hear you, but I shook my head when they went as far as mandatory vaccination and cards.

“May ve zee jour paperz, Comrade”?


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11466261/amp/Majority-Covid-…
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While I agree the US didn't handle covid correctly and deserves some criticism. You really can't compare us to what's going on in China. Browse around this subreddit for a bit, it's real good fun.
https://www.reddit.com/r/fucktheccp/comments/z6nn3h/once_again_the_ccp_…
https://www.reddit.com/r/fucktheccp/comments/z70xgr/the_ccps_covid19_st…
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11/28/2022 1:36pm
Moto Nomad wrote:
I have a theory that China intentionally put the world on lockdown because of the yellow-vest protests that were going on in Hong Kong. It's been...
I have a theory that China intentionally put the world on lockdown because of the yellow-vest protests that were going on in Hong Kong.
It's been interesting watching Americans and the US media portraying these people in China as "lockdown protesters" while here at home they were treated as "anti-vaxxers" and "conspiracy theorists." What Trudeau did to the Canadian truckers was straight out of China. What a dictator he is.
TeamGreen wrote:
I still can't believe how the minions followed the narrative allllllll the way to shutting the Nation down. So embarrassed for The Followers: They cry "Fascist!"...
I still can't believe how the minions followed the narrative allllllll the way to shutting the Nation down.

So embarrassed for The Followers: They cry "Fascist!" as they actually follow fascism down the rabbit hole of their own demise.
It was truly frightening to see the zeal with which people supported mandatory vaccinations and virtual house arrest for the entire population. At best, it was seizing on the opportunity for a massive elimination of civil rights and increased surveillance and unprecedented government power- at worst they actually manufactured this crisis to achieve the same.
I was talking to an older lady that said she has had five vaccines and boosters and still got Covid. But she was glad she got them because otherwise "I probably would have died." It's incredible people believe this bullshit. I never got the jab and I got Covid twice in two years, but the same thing happened to everybody I know that got the jab.
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