Rumors of Roczen to Suzuki

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H4L wrote:
Once again tough talk behind the keyboard & monitor.. Just another internet tough guy.,
Hi again, just log on to stalk and say the same thing over and over also? This thread is about Roczen and Suzuki, not how stupid Kong and h4l are.
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He should have the kick starter anodized safety orange,
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He should have the kick starter anodized safety orange,
Man you’re so funny. Do you do stand up or something?
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Good god can Anaheim get here any sooner ?
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11/26/2022 6:20pm Edited Date/Time 11/26/2022 6:20pm
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Good god can Anaheim get here any sooner ?
We are all going crazy Woohoo plus my suspension is shipped off right now being revalved so I haven’t ridden last weekend or this weekend. I get a free kook pass Silly Evil
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11/27/2022 12:59am
With Anaheim only 40 days away commom sense tells me that Roczen will stay on Red with parts coming through the Factory back door.
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11/27/2022 10:33am
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With Anaheim only 40 days away commom sense tells me that Roczen will stay on Red with parts coming through the Factory back door.
It ‘feels’ like HRC don’t have the time of day for him, let alone factory parts out the back door.

If Ken was to do well on the ‘private’ CRF, it would make the official HRC team look very bad & Japan would be asking many difficult questions.
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11/27/2022 2:37pm
With Ken’s first lap speed and the Suzuki’s ability to launch from the start. Ken will be 3 corners ahead by the end of that first lap!!
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With Ken’s first lap speed and the Suzuki’s ability to launch from the start. Ken will be 3 corners ahead by the end of that first...
With Ken’s first lap speed and the Suzuki’s ability to launch from the start. Ken will be 3 corners ahead by the end of that first lap!!
But what if the blue power band kicks in? Do you think the right linkage will help his acceleration even more?
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11/27/2022 3:33pm Edited Date/Time 11/27/2022 4:31pm
It ‘feels’ like HRC don’t have the time of day for him, let alone factory parts out the back door. If Ken was to do well...
It ‘feels’ like HRC don’t have the time of day for him, let alone factory parts out the back door.

If Ken was to do well on the ‘private’ CRF, it would make the official HRC team look very bad & Japan would be asking many difficult questions.
American Honda is not HRC. (they only involve in mxgp, and not constantly thoroughly)
Obviously it makes some serious differences.
From what I know, they are just founded by the american importer (yet the biggest, as it's the biggest dirt bike market in the world, by an enormous margin). As all the others american teams from japanese brands (ktm usa team has a different link with their factory). The Japanese would just pay for some winning bonus, perhaps.
Even though, all of this varying a bit over time.
Hence, among others, to acquire HRC parts American Honda have to buy them to the Japanese.
Japanese could ask (do they care?), yet according to that, American Honda does not have to answer.
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Boomslang wrote:
With Anaheim only 40 days away commom sense tells me that Roczen will stay on Red with parts coming through the Factory back door.
Why would he want factory parts since he blamed the bike all season in SX? He said the Fire power bike was amazing and he loved it, so that should be all he needs......oh wait, until he changes his mind and gets in his own way around round 3. That will happen on either color though.
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It ‘feels’ like HRC don’t have the time of day for him, let alone factory parts out the back door. If Ken was to do well...
It ‘feels’ like HRC don’t have the time of day for him, let alone factory parts out the back door.

If Ken was to do well on the ‘private’ CRF, it would make the official HRC team look very bad & Japan would be asking many difficult questions.
Antonioni wrote:
American Honda is not HRC. (they only involve in mxgp, and not constantly thoroughly) Obviously it makes some serious differences. From what I know, they are...
American Honda is not HRC. (they only involve in mxgp, and not constantly thoroughly)
Obviously it makes some serious differences.
From what I know, they are just founded by the american importer (yet the biggest, as it's the biggest dirt bike market in the world, by an enormous margin). As all the others american teams from japanese brands (ktm usa team has a different link with their factory). The Japanese would just pay for some winning bonus, perhaps.
Even though, all of this varying a bit over time.
Hence, among others, to acquire HRC parts American Honda have to buy them to the Japanese.
Japanese could ask (do they care?), yet according to that, American Honda does not have to answer.
You sure the American team isn’t HRC ?

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11/27/2022 5:47pm
It ‘feels’ like HRC don’t have the time of day for him, let alone factory parts out the back door. If Ken was to do well...
It ‘feels’ like HRC don’t have the time of day for him, let alone factory parts out the back door.

If Ken was to do well on the ‘private’ CRF, it would make the official HRC team look very bad & Japan would be asking many difficult questions.
Antonioni wrote:
American Honda is not HRC. (they only involve in mxgp, and not constantly thoroughly) Obviously it makes some serious differences. From what I know, they are...
American Honda is not HRC. (they only involve in mxgp, and not constantly thoroughly)
Obviously it makes some serious differences.
From what I know, they are just founded by the american importer (yet the biggest, as it's the biggest dirt bike market in the world, by an enormous margin). As all the others american teams from japanese brands (ktm usa team has a different link with their factory). The Japanese would just pay for some winning bonus, perhaps.
Even though, all of this varying a bit over time.
Hence, among others, to acquire HRC parts American Honda have to buy them to the Japanese.
Japanese could ask (do they care?), yet according to that, American Honda does not have to answer.


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seth505 wrote:
Hi again, just log on to stalk and say the same thing over and over also? This thread is about Roczen and Suzuki, not how stupid...
Hi again, just log on to stalk and say the same thing over and over also? This thread is about Roczen and Suzuki, not how stupid Kong and h4l are.
1-What I posted IS about Roczen and Suzuki.
2-Hadn't been here for weeks.
3-I'm not the least bit grouchy -quite your opposite, actually.
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It ‘feels’ like HRC don’t have the time of day for him, let alone factory parts out the back door. If Ken was to do well...
It ‘feels’ like HRC don’t have the time of day for him, let alone factory parts out the back door.

If Ken was to do well on the ‘private’ CRF, it would make the official HRC team look very bad & Japan would be asking many difficult questions.
Antonioni wrote:
American Honda is not HRC. (they only involve in mxgp, and not constantly thoroughly) Obviously it makes some serious differences. From what I know, they are...
American Honda is not HRC. (they only involve in mxgp, and not constantly thoroughly)
Obviously it makes some serious differences.
From what I know, they are just founded by the american importer (yet the biggest, as it's the biggest dirt bike market in the world, by an enormous margin). As all the others american teams from japanese brands (ktm usa team has a different link with their factory). The Japanese would just pay for some winning bonus, perhaps.
Even though, all of this varying a bit over time.
Hence, among others, to acquire HRC parts American Honda have to buy them to the Japanese.
Japanese could ask (do they care?), yet according to that, American Honda does not have to answer.

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KONG 2 wrote:
Can't wait to see him kicking like a madman next time Anderson takes him out.
Good'ol vintage vibe!
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You really honeo your nick name with your posts
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honor,and brainless posts
Man, being called brainless by someone who needs two posts to spell a five letter word properly is really gonna ruin my day.
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11/27/2022 6:25pm Edited Date/Time 11/27/2022 6:25pm
It ‘feels’ like HRC don’t have the time of day for him, let alone factory parts out the back door. If Ken was to do well...
It ‘feels’ like HRC don’t have the time of day for him, let alone factory parts out the back door.

If Ken was to do well on the ‘private’ CRF, it would make the official HRC team look very bad & Japan would be asking many difficult questions.
Antonioni wrote:
American Honda is not HRC. (they only involve in mxgp, and not constantly thoroughly) Obviously it makes some serious differences. From what I know, they are...
American Honda is not HRC. (they only involve in mxgp, and not constantly thoroughly)
Obviously it makes some serious differences.
From what I know, they are just founded by the american importer (yet the biggest, as it's the biggest dirt bike market in the world, by an enormous margin). As all the others american teams from japanese brands (ktm usa team has a different link with their factory). The Japanese would just pay for some winning bonus, perhaps.
Even though, all of this varying a bit over time.
Hence, among others, to acquire HRC parts American Honda have to buy them to the Japanese.
Japanese could ask (do they care?), yet according to that, American Honda does not have to answer.
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/11/27/578611/s1200_F25D113E_932B_4CCA_AD25_8EA4329E3CC7.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/11/27/578612/s1200_569D1DF7_659D_4E06_ACB6_F6E00946C08B.jpg[/img]


Are you stupid ?



Where is American Honda ?

HRC on worldwide scene, yes, sure, obviously.
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KONG 2 wrote:
1-What I posted IS about Roczen and Suzuki.
2-Hadn't been here for weeks.
3-I'm not the least bit grouchy -quite your opposite, actually.
Laughing
Speak with your wallet, buy a Zuk!
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With Ken’s first lap speed and the Suzuki’s ability to launch from the start. Ken will be 3 corners ahead by the end of that first...
With Ken’s first lap speed and the Suzuki’s ability to launch from the start. Ken will be 3 corners ahead by the end of that first lap!!
Zycki11 wrote:
But what if the blue power band kicks in? Do you think the right linkage will help his acceleration even more?
With the blue powerband, correct linkage, and yellow linkage bearings, with Castrol red lithium grease (the secret sauce) he should be up front by the fourth turn for sure!
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11/27/2022 6:46pm
Antonioni wrote:
American Honda is not HRC. (they only involve in mxgp, and not constantly thoroughly) Obviously it makes some serious differences. From what I know, they are...
American Honda is not HRC. (they only involve in mxgp, and not constantly thoroughly)
Obviously it makes some serious differences.
From what I know, they are just founded by the american importer (yet the biggest, as it's the biggest dirt bike market in the world, by an enormous margin). As all the others american teams from japanese brands (ktm usa team has a different link with their factory). The Japanese would just pay for some winning bonus, perhaps.
Even though, all of this varying a bit over time.
Hence, among others, to acquire HRC parts American Honda have to buy them to the Japanese.
Japanese could ask (do they care?), yet according to that, American Honda does not have to answer.
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/11/27/578611/s1200_F25D113E_932B_4CCA_AD25_8EA4329E3CC7.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/11/27/578612/s1200_569D1DF7_659D_4E06_ACB6_F6E00946C08B.jpg[/img]


Antonioni wrote:
Are you stupid ?



Where is American Honda ?

HRC on worldwide scene, yes, sure, obviously.
Right at the bottom AMA sx mx


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11/27/2022 6:58pm Edited Date/Time 11/27/2022 8:30pm
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Nice little sticker.


Binded to the fact that as importer's official team, they are allowed to buy HRC parts.

There is the showing of things and then the reality. Don't give credits to flyers.
That's my point. It works differently to what it allows to think, that's why I wrote this post.
Don't get fooled by this inconspicuous hrc (honda's excellency) advertising.
Honda communication in competition use systematically HRC branding, since always.
It's a very constructive, cunning, way to communicate Honda's competiton activities.
Currently, in MX/SX, JapanHonda/HRC fund (and directly involve) solely the MXGP team (and before 2015 it wasn't even the case, since a while).
As I wrote it "Even though, all of this varying a bit over time", their implication evolve, vary in the time. "Nothing black, nothing white, everyting is all grays".
What happens really, exactly, behind the scene, we don't know. Yet, overall, lately, the bond between American Honda and Japan HRC is very thin since quite a long time.
And mainly the thing, it's that teams on the US scene (as any national stage), are initialy funded, and completely managed, budgeted, by the importer.
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11/27/2022 7:08pm Edited Date/Time 11/27/2022 7:11pm
If Ken races the Suzuki in 2023, I don’t see a downside for him.
If he wins on an inferior motorcycle, the sport would go crazy and Ken would be even more of a legend. Everyone loves the underdog.

If he loses, then the yellow bike takes the blame because it’s a dinosaur.

He has said several times that racing in 2023 is not about the money.

I just don’t know if HEP can pull a second truck and support staff out of their ass unless Red Bull picks up the tab.
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Antonioni wrote:
Nice little sticker. Binded to the fact that as importer's official team, they are allowed to buy HRC parts. There is the showing of things and...
Nice little sticker.


Binded to the fact that as importer's official team, they are allowed to buy HRC parts.

There is the showing of things and then the reality. Don't give credits to flyers.
That's my point. It works differently to what it allows to think, that's why I wrote this post.
Don't get fooled by this inconspicuous hrc (honda's excellency) advertising.
Honda communication in competition use systematically HRC branding, since always.
It's a very constructive, cunning, way to communicate Honda's competiton activities.
Currently, in MX/SX, JapanHonda/HRC fund (and directly involve) solely the MXGP team (and before 2015 it wasn't even the case, since a while).
As I wrote it "Even though, all of this varying a bit over time", their implication evolve, vary in the time. "Nothing black, nothing white, everyting is all grays".
What happens really, exactly, behind the scene, we don't know. Yet, overall, lately, the bond between American Honda and Japan HRC is very thin since quite a long time.
And mainly the thing, it's that teams on the US scene (as any national stage), are initialy funded, and completely managed, budgeted, by the importer.
I guess nevermind that big ass HRC banner in the background. TF are you talking about? Did you read the Colt Nichols post above?

Back to Roczen and Suzuki. Let’s hope we see something regarding his plans tomorrow
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Brent wrote:
If Ken races the Suzuki in 2023, I don’t see a downside for him. If he wins on an inferior motorcycle, the sport would go crazy...
If Ken races the Suzuki in 2023, I don’t see a downside for him.
If he wins on an inferior motorcycle, the sport would go crazy and Ken would be even more of a legend. Everyone loves the underdog.

If he loses, then the yellow bike takes the blame because it’s a dinosaur.

He has said several times that racing in 2023 is not about the money.

I just don’t know if HEP can pull a second truck and support staff out of their ass unless Red Bull picks up the tab.
Would you please describe how it’s an inferior bike? Is it missing a linkage? Missing efi? Did they swap a king quad engine into it for ‘23?
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Antonioni wrote:
American Honda is not HRC. (they only involve in mxgp, and not constantly thoroughly) Obviously it makes some serious differences. From what I know, they are...
American Honda is not HRC. (they only involve in mxgp, and not constantly thoroughly)
Obviously it makes some serious differences.
From what I know, they are just founded by the american importer (yet the biggest, as it's the biggest dirt bike market in the world, by an enormous margin). As all the others american teams from japanese brands (ktm usa team has a different link with their factory). The Japanese would just pay for some winning bonus, perhaps.
Even though, all of this varying a bit over time.
Hence, among others, to acquire HRC parts American Honda have to buy them to the Japanese.
Japanese could ask (do they care?), yet according to that, American Honda does not have to answer.
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/11/27/578611/s1200_F25D113E_932B_4CCA_AD25_8EA4329E3CC7.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/11/27/578612/s1200_569D1DF7_659D_4E06_ACB6_F6E00946C08B.jpg[/img]


Antonioni wrote:
Are you stupid ?



Where is American Honda ?

HRC on worldwide scene, yes, sure, obviously.
American Honda is “just an importer”…?
I’ll ask you this: who owns and operates American Honda?
Have you seen the GIANT proving grounds out in the Mojave Desert? (HPC)
How about allllllll those manufacturing plants in Ohio(4), Alabama, North Carolina (3 including “Honda Jet” mfg), South Carolina, Georgia, Indiana…
Oh, and there’s ANOTHER proving grounds in Ohio.

Should you really be calling people stupid when you certainly don’t understand the way things work at AHM, USA…
Japan runs the show…it’s their company.
As is HRC.
Let’s lay it out:
Honda Motor Company, LTD …as in “Honda Japan” aka The Parent Company
American Honda Motor Company, Inc. USA aka, The U.S. -SUBSIDIARY-

You, my friend, might wanna pull your head out before calling anyone-else “stupid”.
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Brent wrote:
If Ken races the Suzuki in 2023, I don’t see a downside for him. If he wins on an inferior motorcycle, the sport would go crazy...
If Ken races the Suzuki in 2023, I don’t see a downside for him.
If he wins on an inferior motorcycle, the sport would go crazy and Ken would be even more of a legend. Everyone loves the underdog.

If he loses, then the yellow bike takes the blame because it’s a dinosaur.

He has said several times that racing in 2023 is not about the money.

I just don’t know if HEP can pull a second truck and support staff out of their ass unless Red Bull picks up the tab.
You’re totally wrong on this if you did a fast google search you will see American Honda is owned by Honda LTD Japan and American Honda president is Toshiaki Mikoshiba which is a Japanese. Just do some fast research man it’s not that hard .


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Right at the bottom AMA sx mx [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/11/27/578619/s1200_AAF3394D_669A_41FB_BC39_2F749ECBF42D.jpg[/img]
Right at the bottom AMA sx mx


Honda, as others brand, communicate about their competition activities.
However it means nothing to the involvement of the "factory" (HRC for Honda).


In MotoGP all brands communicate in this way about their "private" teams.
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11/27/2022 8:00pm
Right at the bottom AMA sx mx [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/11/27/578619/s1200_AAF3394D_669A_41FB_BC39_2F749ECBF42D.jpg[/img]
Right at the bottom AMA sx mx


Antonioni wrote:
Honda, as others brand, communicate about their competition activities. However it means nothing to the involvement of the "factory" (HRC for Honda). In MotoGP all brands...
Honda, as others brand, communicate about their competition activities.
However it means nothing to the involvement of the "factory" (HRC for Honda).


In MotoGP all brands communicate in this way about their "private" teams.
You don’t like to admitted when you’re wrong you said it’s a importer that runs and owns American Honda but it really Honda Ltd Japan that owns and runs American Honda
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