Health issues that you discovered were affecting your riding / energy

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Hi all

I hope this is moto-related enough to warrant discussion

As someone who comes from a passionate multi-generational motocross family, where we've been "all in" at times with racing etc...

It's interesting how much time & money we put into bikes, equipment, track fees etc but in hindsight paid very little attention to what I was putting in my body -- I guess the unconscious view was that if you are burning calories then you can have as many sports drinks, carbohydrates etc as you like

I recently discovered I was pre-diabetic, which I couldn't believe at first, but since making some dietary lifestyle changes I have *never* felt this good (on the bike & in general life). I wonder how long this has been affecting my riding, it's almost as if I can see more of the track, and now I can finish motos with ease

Anyway, curious to hear if anyone else has experienced anything like this?
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11/2/2022 12:42am
Whip wrote:
Hi all I hope this is moto-related enough to warrant discussion As someone who comes from a passionate multi-generational motocross family, where we've been "all in"...
Hi all

I hope this is moto-related enough to warrant discussion

As someone who comes from a passionate multi-generational motocross family, where we've been "all in" at times with racing etc...

It's interesting how much time & money we put into bikes, equipment, track fees etc but in hindsight paid very little attention to what I was putting in my body -- I guess the unconscious view was that if you are burning calories then you can have as many sports drinks, carbohydrates etc as you like

I recently discovered I was pre-diabetic, which I couldn't believe at first, but since making some dietary lifestyle changes I have *never* felt this good (on the bike & in general life). I wonder how long this has been affecting my riding, it's almost as if I can see more of the track, and now I can finish motos with ease

Anyway, curious to hear if anyone else has experienced anything like this?
Couple of things spring to mind:

When you THINK you’re fit, but then your fitness improves and you realise that before you weren’t very fit, but now you are. But now you’re wondering what you need to do to be fitter still? Yeah, that done my head in at times.

And secondly lingering injuries:
I hurt my knee a few years ago. It was bad but I just knew there were no broken bones so I rested it up until I could use it. But it never fully recovered so I’ve been nursing this knee through life for about 5-6 years, until this year I tweaked it again pretty severely without doing anything dramatic.
So I went to get it checked out.
ACL gone, meniscus ripped out, small fracture was the result. The Doc reckons my ACL has been damaged from the very first episode all those years ago and I’ve simply struggled on with it.

I had surgery in August with a hamstring graft and 12 weeks later the knee feels great! Better than it has the last 5-6 years!
The moral of this story is I wished I had it seen to all those years ago.
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11/2/2022 3:02am
Taking a vitamin supplement was huge for me and properly fueling/hydrating the body before moto. Add proper sleep on top of that. Theres just so many aspects you can fall short on and it impacts your peak performance so much.

Im okay fitness, but after racing Washougal this year, that last lap was pretty tough to push to try and get that last guy. Need more cardio training, while I ride I am in 85-95% HRM range. If I am just going for a sunday ride, 70% HRM usually.
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I ride better after having a few beers the night before…. Is what it is…..
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11/2/2022 4:08am
Whip wrote:
Hi all I hope this is moto-related enough to warrant discussion As someone who comes from a passionate multi-generational motocross family, where we've been "all in"...
Hi all

I hope this is moto-related enough to warrant discussion

As someone who comes from a passionate multi-generational motocross family, where we've been "all in" at times with racing etc...

It's interesting how much time & money we put into bikes, equipment, track fees etc but in hindsight paid very little attention to what I was putting in my body -- I guess the unconscious view was that if you are burning calories then you can have as many sports drinks, carbohydrates etc as you like

I recently discovered I was pre-diabetic, which I couldn't believe at first, but since making some dietary lifestyle changes I have *never* felt this good (on the bike & in general life). I wonder how long this has been affecting my riding, it's almost as if I can see more of the track, and now I can finish motos with ease

Anyway, curious to hear if anyone else has experienced anything like this?
What were your symptoms at the track? You said you can see better.

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11/2/2022 5:07am
Whip wrote:
Hi all I hope this is moto-related enough to warrant discussion As someone who comes from a passionate multi-generational motocross family, where we've been "all in"...
Hi all

I hope this is moto-related enough to warrant discussion

As someone who comes from a passionate multi-generational motocross family, where we've been "all in" at times with racing etc...

It's interesting how much time & money we put into bikes, equipment, track fees etc but in hindsight paid very little attention to what I was putting in my body -- I guess the unconscious view was that if you are burning calories then you can have as many sports drinks, carbohydrates etc as you like

I recently discovered I was pre-diabetic, which I couldn't believe at first, but since making some dietary lifestyle changes I have *never* felt this good (on the bike & in general life). I wonder how long this has been affecting my riding, it's almost as if I can see more of the track, and now I can finish motos with ease

Anyway, curious to hear if anyone else has experienced anything like this?
crt32 wrote:
What were your symptoms at the track? You said you can see better.
Really varied energy from practice to practice, race to race. In hindsight I'd try to eat more carbs/sugar for energy but this seemed to make me feel worse if anything.

The problem is there is a YouTube rabbit hole of things that could be wrong, supplements you should be taking and trainers/athletes pushing mental toughness just to "ride through it".

My vision was just a bit off, hard to describe. I guess it was slightly blurry and could not see the ruts like I used to. I just put it down to getting older at first (although I'm only 34).

Anyway, I have been trying to make my body "fat-adapted" to use that as fuel rather than rely on a constant influx of carbs (I do know you need them for intensive exercise).

I also feel better at work, don't have that afternoon slump and feel more coherent/clear-headed in meetings too.

Essentially I have been intermittent fasting and avoiding all sugars for 2 months now. The first week was grim, but since then I don't recall ever feeling this good. If anyone is thinking of trying it just make sure you get enough sodium/salt/electrolytes because you will feel awful without.

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11/2/2022 5:43am
Whip wrote:
Hi all I hope this is moto-related enough to warrant discussion As someone who comes from a passionate multi-generational motocross family, where we've been "all in"...
Hi all

I hope this is moto-related enough to warrant discussion

As someone who comes from a passionate multi-generational motocross family, where we've been "all in" at times with racing etc...

It's interesting how much time & money we put into bikes, equipment, track fees etc but in hindsight paid very little attention to what I was putting in my body -- I guess the unconscious view was that if you are burning calories then you can have as many sports drinks, carbohydrates etc as you like

I recently discovered I was pre-diabetic, which I couldn't believe at first, but since making some dietary lifestyle changes I have *never* felt this good (on the bike & in general life). I wonder how long this has been affecting my riding, it's almost as if I can see more of the track, and now I can finish motos with ease

Anyway, curious to hear if anyone else has experienced anything like this?
crt32 wrote:
What were your symptoms at the track? You said you can see better.
Whip wrote:
Really varied energy from practice to practice, race to race. In hindsight I'd try to eat more carbs/sugar for energy but this seemed to make me...
Really varied energy from practice to practice, race to race. In hindsight I'd try to eat more carbs/sugar for energy but this seemed to make me feel worse if anything.

The problem is there is a YouTube rabbit hole of things that could be wrong, supplements you should be taking and trainers/athletes pushing mental toughness just to "ride through it".

My vision was just a bit off, hard to describe. I guess it was slightly blurry and could not see the ruts like I used to. I just put it down to getting older at first (although I'm only 34).

Anyway, I have been trying to make my body "fat-adapted" to use that as fuel rather than rely on a constant influx of carbs (I do know you need them for intensive exercise).

I also feel better at work, don't have that afternoon slump and feel more coherent/clear-headed in meetings too.

Essentially I have been intermittent fasting and avoiding all sugars for 2 months now. The first week was grim, but since then I don't recall ever feeling this good. If anyone is thinking of trying it just make sure you get enough sodium/salt/electrolytes because you will feel awful without.

Diabetes can affect vision so if you were pre-diabetic you could have had early stage vision issues.
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11/2/2022 6:03am
Great topic as our health should be managed as our Number One Asset!

20 plus years ago I did just that, made my health my most important project. After that everything falls into place.

I won't make a list of my revised habits other than what you consume is so important.

Intermittent fasting is part of my new habits......... I'm now at the same weight when I was drafted into the Army when I was 20 years old, thought that was not the primary goal.

I'm still making changes and learning. I've made some mistakes and made some great decisions.

Just finished reading several more books on health, diet and personal other health habits - all great additions to my knowledge and life decisions.

I'm in week 4 of the Wim Hoff Method (breathing and a 3 m cold shower after a warm shower) and I can tell major gains in my energy levels and related. Example, I'm doing my own landscaping. The attached picture shows the 66 pound landscape blocks (1200 of them effers) and other work areas. Involves a pick axe and shoveling and climbing up and down that hill many times a day - Ugh! I can now work for hours and a moderate pace and not get overlay tired! Big difference to a few months ago!!

I'm 70 years young and a very active rider and I can tell a difference there also.




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Thyroid count can greatly effect energy levels.
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11/2/2022 6:47am Edited Date/Time 11/2/2022 5:08pm
Unplanned intermittent faster here, just the way my OCD self works out with sleep and work schedule. Pescotarian as well, jumped on wifes diet so she wouldn’t have to cook two meals.

Important for me is getting enough carbs and protein in the night before a ride day and some sort of light breakfast the day of along with a supplement. I have a couple combos that work most of the time. Funny thing that someone else mentioned is a fact. I find I ride really well the day after having a couple beers the night before.

Truth be told. I struggled for a couple months getting my energy/endurance back after having the Vid following my same diet and excercise routine.
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11/2/2022 7:23am
Tim507 wrote:
Great topic as our health should be managed as our Number One Asset! 20 plus years ago I did just that, made my health my most...
Great topic as our health should be managed as our Number One Asset!

20 plus years ago I did just that, made my health my most important project. After that everything falls into place.

I won't make a list of my revised habits other than what you consume is so important.

Intermittent fasting is part of my new habits......... I'm now at the same weight when I was drafted into the Army when I was 20 years old, thought that was not the primary goal.

I'm still making changes and learning. I've made some mistakes and made some great decisions.

Just finished reading several more books on health, diet and personal other health habits - all great additions to my knowledge and life decisions.

I'm in week 4 of the Wim Hoff Method (breathing and a 3 m cold shower after a warm shower) and I can tell major gains in my energy levels and related. Example, I'm doing my own landscaping. The attached picture shows the 66 pound landscape blocks (1200 of them effers) and other work areas. Involves a pick axe and shoveling and climbing up and down that hill many times a day - Ugh! I can now work for hours and a moderate pace and not get overlay tired! Big difference to a few months ago!!

I'm 70 years young and a very active rider and I can tell a difference there also.




Dang, that is an incredible story! Kudos to you, and I appreciate the solid detailed info about your regimen. I’ve been thinking of diving into the intermittent fasting thing as well. That Win Hoff method you spoke of sounds terrifying (the cold shower part) but if it results in more energy it would be worth it. 👍
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11/2/2022 8:00am
Whip wrote:
Hi all I hope this is moto-related enough to warrant discussion As someone who comes from a passionate multi-generational motocross family, where we've been "all in"...
Hi all

I hope this is moto-related enough to warrant discussion

As someone who comes from a passionate multi-generational motocross family, where we've been "all in" at times with racing etc...

It's interesting how much time & money we put into bikes, equipment, track fees etc but in hindsight paid very little attention to what I was putting in my body -- I guess the unconscious view was that if you are burning calories then you can have as many sports drinks, carbohydrates etc as you like

I recently discovered I was pre-diabetic, which I couldn't believe at first, but since making some dietary lifestyle changes I have *never* felt this good (on the bike & in general life). I wonder how long this has been affecting my riding, it's almost as if I can see more of the track, and now I can finish motos with ease

Anyway, curious to hear if anyone else has experienced anything like this?
crt32 wrote:
What were your symptoms at the track? You said you can see better.
Whip wrote:
Really varied energy from practice to practice, race to race. In hindsight I'd try to eat more carbs/sugar for energy but this seemed to make me...
Really varied energy from practice to practice, race to race. In hindsight I'd try to eat more carbs/sugar for energy but this seemed to make me feel worse if anything.

The problem is there is a YouTube rabbit hole of things that could be wrong, supplements you should be taking and trainers/athletes pushing mental toughness just to "ride through it".

My vision was just a bit off, hard to describe. I guess it was slightly blurry and could not see the ruts like I used to. I just put it down to getting older at first (although I'm only 34).

Anyway, I have been trying to make my body "fat-adapted" to use that as fuel rather than rely on a constant influx of carbs (I do know you need them for intensive exercise).

I also feel better at work, don't have that afternoon slump and feel more coherent/clear-headed in meetings too.

Essentially I have been intermittent fasting and avoiding all sugars for 2 months now. The first week was grim, but since then I don't recall ever feeling this good. If anyone is thinking of trying it just make sure you get enough sodium/salt/electrolytes because you will feel awful without.

The vision part is interesting to me because Ive been struggling with my vision. Never noticed it when I was riding multiple times a week, then 5+ years ago after a few months off, come back and vision issue and never been the same since. Some days are worse than others. Only happens when riding, two laps its perfect, then slowly goes away and the clear ruts become blurs. Usually comes back after I pull off the track, sit down and rest for 5 minutes. Worse on race days than on practice days.

I have tried to eliminate all soda and all candy/junk food. Sugars are in my peanut butter, slices of bread, jelly, so haven't eliminated them completely.

What's your typical diet? I'm pretty lean, 6 2 and 175 lbs, so i don't want to lose weight, just want to eat more and have more energy and get rid of this blurred vision problem.
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Get yearly blood work. Ask for everything, vitamin levels, kidney function, thyroid, testosterone, cholesterol, iron, glucose levels, A1C etc.

Like many have said getting to a good diet does wonders, but having the information from blood work helps so much to get you focused in the right areas right now.

I have some odd medical background which has lead me to have low iron and very high cholesterol. The low iron is very odd for a male and also odd since I eat a lot of red meats. However since I have started taking some iron supplements and cutting out pretty much all saturated fats my energy levels have come up to what I felt like 10 years ago. Its seriously crazy how adjusting your diet can do wonders. But it all starts with what you need, and to figure that out I always push to get the data first via bloodwork.
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11/2/2022 8:24am
Tim507 wrote:
Great topic as our health should be managed as our Number One Asset! 20 plus years ago I did just that, made my health my most...
Great topic as our health should be managed as our Number One Asset!

20 plus years ago I did just that, made my health my most important project. After that everything falls into place.

I won't make a list of my revised habits other than what you consume is so important.

Intermittent fasting is part of my new habits......... I'm now at the same weight when I was drafted into the Army when I was 20 years old, thought that was not the primary goal.

I'm still making changes and learning. I've made some mistakes and made some great decisions.

Just finished reading several more books on health, diet and personal other health habits - all great additions to my knowledge and life decisions.

I'm in week 4 of the Wim Hoff Method (breathing and a 3 m cold shower after a warm shower) and I can tell major gains in my energy levels and related. Example, I'm doing my own landscaping. The attached picture shows the 66 pound landscape blocks (1200 of them effers) and other work areas. Involves a pick axe and shoveling and climbing up and down that hill many times a day - Ugh! I can now work for hours and a moderate pace and not get overlay tired! Big difference to a few months ago!!

I'm 70 years young and a very active rider and I can tell a difference there also.




Dang, that is an incredible story! Kudos to you, and I appreciate the solid detailed info about your regimen. I’ve been thinking of diving into the...
Dang, that is an incredible story! Kudos to you, and I appreciate the solid detailed info about your regimen. I’ve been thinking of diving into the intermittent fasting thing as well. That Win Hoff method you spoke of sounds terrifying (the cold shower part) but if it results in more energy it would be worth it. 👍
Cold water is your friend that tells you what you dont want to hear. 💪👍
11/2/2022 8:25am
Tim507 wrote:
Great topic as our health should be managed as our Number One Asset! 20 plus years ago I did just that, made my health my most...
Great topic as our health should be managed as our Number One Asset!

20 plus years ago I did just that, made my health my most important project. After that everything falls into place.

I won't make a list of my revised habits other than what you consume is so important.

Intermittent fasting is part of my new habits......... I'm now at the same weight when I was drafted into the Army when I was 20 years old, thought that was not the primary goal.

I'm still making changes and learning. I've made some mistakes and made some great decisions.

Just finished reading several more books on health, diet and personal other health habits - all great additions to my knowledge and life decisions.

I'm in week 4 of the Wim Hoff Method (breathing and a 3 m cold shower after a warm shower) and I can tell major gains in my energy levels and related. Example, I'm doing my own landscaping. The attached picture shows the 66 pound landscape blocks (1200 of them effers) and other work areas. Involves a pick axe and shoveling and climbing up and down that hill many times a day - Ugh! I can now work for hours and a moderate pace and not get overlay tired! Big difference to a few months ago!!

I'm 70 years young and a very active rider and I can tell a difference there also.




Dang, that is an incredible story! Kudos to you, and I appreciate the solid detailed info about your regimen. I’ve been thinking of diving into the...
Dang, that is an incredible story! Kudos to you, and I appreciate the solid detailed info about your regimen. I’ve been thinking of diving into the intermittent fasting thing as well. That Win Hoff method you spoke of sounds terrifying (the cold shower part) but if it results in more energy it would be worth it. 👍
Cold water is your friend that tells you what you dont want to hear. 💪👍
11/2/2022 8:28am
Cold water is your friend that tells you what you dont want to hear. 💪👍
There has to be a way to ease into that routine, right? I actually do take cold showers in the summer on occasion but that’s more out of comfort. Lol
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Cold water is your friend that tells you what you dont want to hear. 💪👍
There has to be a way to ease into that routine, right? I actually do take cold showers in the summer on occasion but that’s more...
There has to be a way to ease into that routine, right? I actually do take cold showers in the summer on occasion but that’s more out of comfort. Lol
The only way it to just get after itWoohoo Yes cold showers are a challenge! I use a 3 m sand timer.

Look into earthing. I sleep on a grounded pad. It is under the sheet and plugged into the ground hole at a outlet. Bare footing in the yard is also recommended.

Blood work should not be the superficial results that they force on us! Ask for a detailed and deep blood work!

Lots of good information to be gained from the bloodwork You must ask and stand firm on your request. If they push back get a new doctor who supports health and not prescriptions!

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11/2/2022 9:05am
That’s some great info and advice, Tim. Thanks!
11/2/2022 9:13am
Fitness and overall health improved with the following:

Stop smoking (weed)
Reduce alcohol
Eat more quality meat (e.g. grass fed) and low carb veggies
Eat no more than 2 meals a day, all before 5:00 PM
Cut out carbs, sugar and all processed foods
Drink a gallon of water a day
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11/2/2022 9:18am
Fitness and overall health improved with the following: Stop smoking (weed) Reduce alcohol Eat more quality meat (e.g. grass fed) and low carb veggies Eat no...
Fitness and overall health improved with the following:

Stop smoking (weed)
Reduce alcohol
Eat more quality meat (e.g. grass fed) and low carb veggies
Eat no more than 2 meals a day, all before 5:00 PM
Cut out carbs, sugar and all processed foods
Drink a gallon of water a day
Where I tend to fall short is getting all the meals in before 5 or 6. With family etc. it’s darn near impossible sometimes. I’m assuming the reason to have all the meals completed by five is a metabolism related thing?
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11/2/2022 9:18am
Tim507 wrote:
The only way it to just get after it:woohoo: Yes cold showers are a challenge! I use a 3 m sand timer. Look into earthing. I...
The only way it to just get after itWoohoo Yes cold showers are a challenge! I use a 3 m sand timer.

Look into earthing. I sleep on a grounded pad. It is under the sheet and plugged into the ground hole at a outlet. Bare footing in the yard is also recommended.

Blood work should not be the superficial results that they force on us! Ask for a detailed and deep blood work!

Lots of good information to be gained from the bloodwork You must ask and stand firm on your request. If they push back get a new doctor who supports health and not prescriptions!

gonna check the grounding pad out. been taking cold showers after hot showers before i go to sleep at night and it makes me feel so good.
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11/2/2022 9:26am
I just did some research on the grounding pads and unlike other ‘fixes’ out there, this is actually a confirmed, credible thing! Ordering one today. Thanks again, Tim.
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11/2/2022 9:43am
Fitness and overall health improved with the following: Stop smoking (weed) Reduce alcohol Eat more quality meat (e.g. grass fed) and low carb veggies Eat no...
Fitness and overall health improved with the following:

Stop smoking (weed)
Reduce alcohol
Eat more quality meat (e.g. grass fed) and low carb veggies
Eat no more than 2 meals a day, all before 5:00 PM
Cut out carbs, sugar and all processed foods
Drink a gallon of water a day
Where I tend to fall short is getting all the meals in before 5 or 6. With family etc. it’s darn near impossible sometimes. I’m assuming...
Where I tend to fall short is getting all the meals in before 5 or 6. With family etc. it’s darn near impossible sometimes. I’m assuming the reason to have all the meals completed by five is a metabolism related thing?
If you stop eating by 5:00 PM and don't eat again until 7:00 AM the following morning, you're giving yourself 14 hours of intermittent fasting. Very hard to do with a family, for sure, unless you choose not to eat on their schedule.

The three meals a day thing is what's wrong with American diet. And also the desire to eat something different every day. I tried the carnivore diet for a brief period of time, but ultimately settled on keto being the ideal diet for me. Eating some veggies is beneficial. I do find eating one big protein loaded meal a day minimizes my hunger throughout the day. It's pretty easy to go 14+ hours without getting the munchies.
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Just a precaution for all of the lay-men and hobbysists in here, what works for one can damage another. If you find yourself entertaining a massive paradigm swing in your diet, that's your sign to slow down and learn more.

OP, what did you eat before and what changes did you make? You mentioned 'fat adaptation' so I'm assuming some level of ketogenic diet but then you imply carbs at times so it makes me think carb cycling. I had strangely good results on track in ketosis one time (winter cut + random warm day). Rode great. Could have been a number of things because I've exceeded that performance many times over since but.. I'll never forget it. It was the first time I beat arm pump my whole life. Interesting correlation.
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Fitness and overall health improved with the following: Stop smoking (weed) Reduce alcohol Eat more quality meat (e.g. grass fed) and low carb veggies Eat no...
Fitness and overall health improved with the following:

Stop smoking (weed)
Reduce alcohol
Eat more quality meat (e.g. grass fed) and low carb veggies
Eat no more than 2 meals a day, all before 5:00 PM
Cut out carbs, sugar and all processed foods
Drink a gallon of water a day
Where I tend to fall short is getting all the meals in before 5 or 6. With family etc. it’s darn near impossible sometimes. I’m assuming...
Where I tend to fall short is getting all the meals in before 5 or 6. With family etc. it’s darn near impossible sometimes. I’m assuming the reason to have all the meals completed by five is a metabolism related thing?
If you stop eating by 5:00 PM and don't eat again until 7:00 AM the following morning, you're giving yourself 14 hours of intermittent fasting. Very...
If you stop eating by 5:00 PM and don't eat again until 7:00 AM the following morning, you're giving yourself 14 hours of intermittent fasting. Very hard to do with a family, for sure, unless you choose not to eat on their schedule.

The three meals a day thing is what's wrong with American diet. And also the desire to eat something different every day. I tried the carnivore diet for a brief period of time, but ultimately settled on keto being the ideal diet for me. Eating some veggies is beneficial. I do find eating one big protein loaded meal a day minimizes my hunger throughout the day. It's pretty easy to go 14+ hours without getting the munchies.
Please expand on how three meals per day is what's wrong with the 'american diet.' I'm really looking forward to this lol.
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Certainly had more endurance after getting a new heart.
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Low T!!! Thanx Nugenix! Grinning Grinning Grinning
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Where I tend to fall short is getting all the meals in before 5 or 6. With family etc. it’s darn near impossible sometimes. I’m assuming...
Where I tend to fall short is getting all the meals in before 5 or 6. With family etc. it’s darn near impossible sometimes. I’m assuming the reason to have all the meals completed by five is a metabolism related thing?
If you stop eating by 5:00 PM and don't eat again until 7:00 AM the following morning, you're giving yourself 14 hours of intermittent fasting. Very...
If you stop eating by 5:00 PM and don't eat again until 7:00 AM the following morning, you're giving yourself 14 hours of intermittent fasting. Very hard to do with a family, for sure, unless you choose not to eat on their schedule.

The three meals a day thing is what's wrong with American diet. And also the desire to eat something different every day. I tried the carnivore diet for a brief period of time, but ultimately settled on keto being the ideal diet for me. Eating some veggies is beneficial. I do find eating one big protein loaded meal a day minimizes my hunger throughout the day. It's pretty easy to go 14+ hours without getting the munchies.
Please expand on how three meals per day is what's wrong with the 'american diet.' I'm really looking forward to this lol.
Read and research is the best method of learning as you get to process the information 1st hand. Not all information is valid and correct. After lots of reading and research you start to be able to naturally sort the wheat form the shaft. As another said, not all avenues work for everyone.

Look at it as an investment in yourself which is a worthy cause.
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Crowns/colitis auto immune disease is awful, deprives you of your energy and happy mental state of mind.
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Well, I'm 5 days into an ACL reconstruction... So my next year is going to be very health focused. It's going to be one of those "best shape of my life" stories when it's all said and done.

I made a run in 2018 when I got back into racing. Went from 245lbs to 185. Learned some good lessons there, but definitely had some shortcomings. Then I got back up to 200lbs during peak covid. Was trying to make a run for 180lbs and ripped this year but never really got into gear with it, especially after my first incident with my knee.

I don't have really any advice to offer this thread that hasn't already been said. I'll just say, everyone is different. Different programs and diets work differently for everyone. In my experience, completely solo, it has taken a long time to get to know what gets me in shape! If you have the time and money for a good trainer and/or nutritionist, it may help speed up the process.
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