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he'll have anything for Ferrandis (MX) from what I saw at Redbud.
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Believe the Hype ! 🙂
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MXR wrote:
Believe the Hype ! 🙂
Get me a t-shirt.
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Dirty Points 9/27/2022 10:43am
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BobbyM wrote:
he'll have anything for Ferrandis (MX) from what I saw at Redbud.
Both Tomac and Ferrandis are historically at an age that would put them in twilight of their careers. He'll have to deal with Sexton for quite a while.
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BobbyM wrote:
he'll have anything for Ferrandis (MX) from what I saw at Redbud.
People need to pump the brakes on the Jett hype and the Jett can't run with the best guys talk.

It was his first race ever on a 450 and it was in shitty conditions. Jett will most likely have plenty of 450 titles in his career.
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After seeing Jett ride that track against the full time 450 guys I'm a firm believer that he's ready for the 450 and will challenge the top guys
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Jett is perhaps the best at the "new riding style"... meaning - he is going to use a lot less energy to go the same speed as the other guys... DF14 uses the old style, like ET3.... while you can go super fast using the old style, you are at a huge disadvantage.. the only thing that will keep Jett from winning, is Jett, or somebody else who uses the new style even better than he does (Sexton maybe)....
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rawjahdesigns 9/27/2022 12:12pm
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im with you BobbyM.... i cant stand with this generational talent thing.

is he so good it makes me jealous as all balls? HELL YES!.

but james stewart on a 125 or bust!!!! for life!!! there will never be someone beating that.
and bubba on the glen helen 250f?? ohhhhhh boy... ill say it. Beats every 250f today. Smile

okay okay, maybe give him a 22' PC bike...
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SGoodman wrote:
Jett is perhaps the best at the "new riding style"... meaning - he is going to use a lot less energy to go the same speed...
Jett is perhaps the best at the "new riding style"... meaning - he is going to use a lot less energy to go the same speed as the other guys... DF14 uses the old style, like ET3.... while you can go super fast using the old style, you are at a huge disadvantage.. the only thing that will keep Jett from winning, is Jett, or somebody else who uses the new style even better than he does (Sexton maybe)....
I'm already sick of this narrative. "New riding style"

Some guys have always been smoother than others. There are still young kids coming up that throw the bike around aggressively. Kitchen and Renaux are 2 guys that come to mind that are young, fast and don't really have the upright upperbody, limited-head-movement style that Chase and Jett somewhat use. I think the idea that someone has to ride like how Jett and Chase ride, to be successful is kind of ridiculous.
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SGoodman wrote:
Jett is perhaps the best at the "new riding style"... meaning - he is going to use a lot less energy to go the same speed...
Jett is perhaps the best at the "new riding style"... meaning - he is going to use a lot less energy to go the same speed as the other guys... DF14 uses the old style, like ET3.... while you can go super fast using the old style, you are at a huge disadvantage.. the only thing that will keep Jett from winning, is Jett, or somebody else who uses the new style even better than he does (Sexton maybe)....
I would not call it the new still since Everts rode like that in the early 90’s, but we have seen a change in the american riding styles the last years, opting for the more european way of riding.

And yes, i am all aboard with this. They waste a lot less energy, and on a slick track they will have better traction compared to a rider like Tomac that are trying to blow his engine in peices on the rev limiter.

Ferrandis will have to make it through SX in one piece before we even have to talk about his Nationals performance next year.
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Jett's debut ride on a 450 and he went 1-2 leads me to believe he will have Ferrandis and everybody covered.
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Ferrandis is a fantastic rider but I don’t think..

He was always racing at a sustainable pace. He was LOOSE compared to his outdoors ‘21 form, and the crashes told this story at the weekend.
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BobbyM wrote:
he'll have anything for Ferrandis (MX) from what I saw at Redbud.
You seriously don't think he'll have ANYTHING for Ferrandis?

Like....nothing at all?
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SGoodman wrote:
Jett is perhaps the best at the "new riding style"... meaning - he is going to use a lot less energy to go the same speed...
Jett is perhaps the best at the "new riding style"... meaning - he is going to use a lot less energy to go the same speed as the other guys... DF14 uses the old style, like ET3.... while you can go super fast using the old style, you are at a huge disadvantage.. the only thing that will keep Jett from winning, is Jett, or somebody else who uses the new style even better than he does (Sexton maybe)....
Tell Tomac’s entire year or Ferrandis’ last MX season that they were at a disadvantage with their styles..
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Jett was pretty damn good, he dominated Moto 2 and pushed for the win in Moto 3 until he lost his goggles, and he had to come through the pack a bit in both of them. Ferrandis was incredibly fast and impressive also, but I’m not sure how you could watch how Jett rode this weekend in his first 450 race and think that there’s anyone that he can’t beat
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Ferrandis showed me all I needed to see to know he’ll be the guy to beat if he shows up healthy
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Ferrandis was the fastest rider all weekend IMO. Jett looked great. I thought he would struggle adjusting to the big bike and I was very wrong
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If Jett is healthy when the outdoors starts he will own the series.
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Chris_Buehler 9/27/2022 7:38pm
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Forty wrote:
If Jett is healthy when the outdoors starts he will own the series.
He's going to own it? Sexton and Tomac were 45sec ahead of 3rd. Is Jett going to be a minute ahead? It will be great to see Sexton, Jett, and Dylan go at it. Each guy is going to have a day they're on it.
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Phil109 9/27/2022 7:41pm
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Jett’s first major 450 race and he’s already DF’s speed. What do you think is going to happen? He will get worse once he starts riding, testing and racing one full time???
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Forty wrote:
If Jett is healthy when the outdoors starts he will own the series.
People always say that about the next big phenom when they move to the big bike and it’s almost never true
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Forty 9/27/2022 7:45pm
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Forty wrote:
If Jett is healthy when the outdoors starts he will own the series.
Chris_Buehler wrote:
He's going to own it? Sexton and Tomac were 45sec ahead of 3rd. Is Jett going to be a minute ahead? It will be great to...
He's going to own it? Sexton and Tomac were 45sec ahead of 3rd. Is Jett going to be a minute ahead? It will be great to see Sexton, Jett, and Dylan go at it. Each guy is going to have a day they're on it.
IMO he will be 1 year better and closer to his prime. He has the speed of these veterans and has about 2 weeks on a 450. C’mon guys. The kid is for real.
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zehn 9/27/2022 7:47pm
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IMO he will be 1 year better and closer to his prime. He has the speed of these veterans and has about 2 weeks on a...
IMO he will be 1 year better and closer to his prime. He has the speed of these veterans and has about 2 weeks on a 450. C’mon guys. The kid is for real.
Source: dude just trust me bro
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Forty wrote:
If Jett is healthy when the outdoors starts he will own the series.
zehn wrote:
People always say that about the next big phenom when they move to the big bike and it’s almost never true

How many of those had two outdoor titles and a SX title by the age of 18 and didn't deliver on their promise?
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str8line wrote:

How many of those had two outdoor titles and a SX title by the age of 18 and didn't deliver on their promise?
He’s talking about a 19 year old owning the competition in the 450 class as a rookie. When has that happened?
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Dirty Points wrote:
Both Tomac and Ferrandis are historically at an age that would put them in twilight of their careers. He'll have to deal with Sexton for quite...
Both Tomac and Ferrandis are historically at an age that would put them in twilight of their careers. He'll have to deal with Sexton for quite a while.
Chase's best MXON lap was only the fifth fastest.
I think we saw peak Chase 2022 outdoors. A slowing Eli and an absent Ferrandis (and AC) flattered him.
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Forty wrote:
If Jett is healthy when the outdoors starts he will own the series.
zehn wrote:
People always say that about the next big phenom when they move to the big bike and it’s almost never true
str8line wrote:

How many of those had two outdoor titles and a SX title by the age of 18 and didn't deliver on their promise?
Jett’s style has always fit the big bike. He has the smoothness and the flow. A lot like Roczen and a lot of GP riders have/had. They “flow” around rough and technical shit very well outdoors. He really reminds me of Herlings in his younger years. Just has “it”. Barring major injuries like others have had he will be a multi time champ on the 450’s. He’s proven his capability already. Ultimately, like all the next level guys it’ll come down to if he can stay healthy on the big bike.
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str8line wrote:

How many of those had two outdoor titles and a SX title by the age of 18 and didn't deliver on their promise?
zehn wrote:
He’s talking about a 19 year old owning the competition in the 450 class as a rookie. When has that happened?
Dungey 2010 - had a pretty good year - look it up -
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Dirty Points 9/27/2022 8:08pm
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Both Tomac and Ferrandis are historically at an age that would put them in twilight of their careers. He'll have to deal with Sexton for quite...
Both Tomac and Ferrandis are historically at an age that would put them in twilight of their careers. He'll have to deal with Sexton for quite a while.
Gungadin wrote:
Chase's best MXON lap was only the fifth fastest. I think we saw peak Chase 2022 outdoors. A slowing Eli and an absent Ferrandis (and AC)...
Chase's best MXON lap was only the fifth fastest.
I think we saw peak Chase 2022 outdoors. A slowing Eli and an absent Ferrandis (and AC) flattered him.
A soft Redbud mudder might not be the place where Chase makes his stand in a national battle, considering how blazing fast he was on hardpacked tracks in 2022.
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Gungadin 9/27/2022 8:15pm
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Dirty Points wrote:
A soft Redbud mudder might not be the place where Chase makes his stand in a national battle, considering how blazing fast he was on hardpacked...
A soft Redbud mudder might not be the place where Chase makes his stand in a national battle, considering how blazing fast he was on hardpacked tracks in 2022.
Who owns Pala?
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Dirty Points wrote:
A soft Redbud mudder might not be the place where Chase makes his stand in a national battle, considering how blazing fast he was on hardpacked...
A soft Redbud mudder might not be the place where Chase makes his stand in a national battle, considering how blazing fast he was on hardpacked tracks in 2022.
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Who owns Pala?
The Pala tribe Smile
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