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Searights 9/12/2022 6:12pm
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Yes, Hirotoshi Honda called Kenny and recommended Seppuku if he ever posted something like that again.
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Jeremy Macduff 9/12/2022 6:17pm
9/12/2022 6:17pm Edited Date/Time 9/12/2022 6:19pm
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The bolt holes in the sprocket are egg shaped, which means to me he was riding with loose sprocket bolts.
1. Chain guide snapped off and got bound up by the countershaft sprocket
2. Chain locked up
3. Rear sprocket bolts sheared and ovaled the bolt holes in the aluminum hub. Steel bolts are stronger than aluminum but not stronger than all that rotational inertia coming to a sudden and violent halt.
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Man the people that post here thinking they know everything is comical lol.. there are those that do know what they're looking at and those who come up with some wild shit lol..

I'm laughing most at the people saying his bike looks beat.. The guys at his level can eat a bike alive in one session. Their 30 minutes is our 30 hours abuse wise.
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He should get on the green bike! He and Anderson would be a good stable.
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Wouldnt go that far. Kenny brought Suzuki its last title before leaving. Pre-injury Kenny was an animal. Its odd. We talk about Kenny like finishing top...
Wouldnt go that far. Kenny brought Suzuki its last title before leaving. Pre-injury Kenny was an animal.

Its odd. We talk about Kenny like finishing top 2-5 in points is disappointing/failure and hes finished where as most riders will never come close to that in a career year. In my opinion a testament to just how good he was/still can be when he's on.
It's not only people like us that talk about him like that, he talks about himself like that.
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Jeremy Macduff wrote:
1. Chain guide snapped off and got bound up by the countershaft sprocket 2. Chain locked up 3. Rear sprocket bolts sheared and ovaled the bolt...
1. Chain guide snapped off and got bound up by the countershaft sprocket
2. Chain locked up
3. Rear sprocket bolts sheared and ovaled the bolt holes in the aluminum hub. Steel bolts are stronger than aluminum but not stronger than all that rotational inertia coming to a sudden and violent halt.
The marks on the hub look more like the sprocket bolts failed and snapped off the guide. I would think if the guide stopped the chain from moving the sheer marks would be the other direction from the wheel turning.
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Jeremy Macduff 9/12/2022 8:20pm
9/12/2022 8:20pm Edited Date/Time 9/12/2022 8:22pm
AJ565 wrote:
The marks on the hub look more like the sprocket bolts failed and snapped off the guide. I would think if the guide stopped the chain...
The marks on the hub look more like the sprocket bolts failed and snapped off the guide. I would think if the guide stopped the chain from moving the sheer marks would be the other direction from the wheel turning.
All 6 sprocket bolts sheared. I can't imagine that happening unless the rotational inertia of the wheel came to a sudden halt and they all experienced the same shearing force. The only force I can see in this sequence of events causing that dramatic of a sudden stop of inertia is the chain guide binding up as we see in the photo. The forward inertia of the bike, coupled with the bound up chain could shear those rear sprocket bolts. I just don't see all 6 shearing on their own.
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Glad Kenny is alright
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Honda curse.
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Meister wrote:
Man the people that post here thinking they know everything is comical lol.. there are those that do know what they're looking at and those who...
Man the people that post here thinking they know everything is comical lol.. there are those that do know what they're looking at and those who come up with some wild shit lol..

I'm laughing most at the people saying his bike looks beat.. The guys at his level can eat a bike alive in one session. Their 30 minutes is our 30 hours abuse wise.
Right? The GOAT Farm was littered with RC's roached out bikes, and people think Kenny's bike is bad?

For those saying Kenny's trying to make Honda look bad; does it make them look any worse than Jett's motor letting go on live TV at Red Bud?
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What went first? Guide or bolts? Bike definitely looks beat.
Bolts are gonzo ! That is not failed parts. If the guide failed bolts would still be there.

Besides can Ken not feel loose sprocket bolts -

Still the point is this is very unprofessional.

Talent guy with no work ethic - Guess what if he trained like Chase and ELI he could run their pace. He never trained never like to train always relied on his talent - Sure is catching up to him.
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Meister wrote:
Man the people that post here thinking they know everything is comical lol.. there are those that do know what they're looking at and those who...
Man the people that post here thinking they know everything is comical lol.. there are those that do know what they're looking at and those who come up with some wild shit lol..

I'm laughing most at the people saying his bike looks beat.. The guys at his level can eat a bike alive in one session. Their 30 minutes is our 30 hours abuse wise.
Sully wrote:
Right? The GOAT Farm was littered with RC's roached out bikes, and people think Kenny's bike is bad? For those saying Kenny's trying to make Honda...
Right? The GOAT Farm was littered with RC's roached out bikes, and people think Kenny's bike is bad?

For those saying Kenny's trying to make Honda look bad; does it make them look any worse than Jett's motor letting go on live TV at Red Bud?
The guy that won the championship ?
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Jeremy Macduff wrote:
1. Chain guide snapped off and got bound up by the countershaft sprocket 2. Chain locked up 3. Rear sprocket bolts sheared and ovaled the bolt...
1. Chain guide snapped off and got bound up by the countershaft sprocket
2. Chain locked up
3. Rear sprocket bolts sheared and ovaled the bolt holes in the aluminum hub. Steel bolts are stronger than aluminum but not stronger than all that rotational inertia coming to a sudden and violent halt.
AJ565 wrote:
The marks on the hub look more like the sprocket bolts failed and snapped off the guide. I would think if the guide stopped the chain...
The marks on the hub look more like the sprocket bolts failed and snapped off the guide. I would think if the guide stopped the chain from moving the sheer marks would be the other direction from the wheel turning.
If the guide snapped and sheared the sprocket from the hub the bolts would be still there !!!
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kawasa84 9/13/2022 12:54am
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Not a superfan of Roczen, however I've been a casual fan since he came stateside. He's had great success, injury that should have been career ending, and been triumphant throughout. I wish him nothing but the best and this latest gram post of this does nothing good or bad in how I view Ken.
I'm not a superfan of Honda, however I know through the years they have delivered some of the greatest mx bikes, and then some that were ho-hum. I don't like that Honda abandoned 2 strokes completely as if they were/are some major contributor to pollution when in reality, because of the .00001 of volume of mx bikes its simply not true. So, I was bothered when Honda produced the CRF150, thinking they could run it in the 85cc class.
But, Ken's gram post isn't going to change my opinion on Honda at all.
Honestly, I could care less what he posts
Just my 2 cents
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Huckster 9/13/2022 3:19am
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Dam it! Now I have to sell my Honda.
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KiwiBermRailer wrote:
This won’t happen at Star for him.
Because they won't hire him?
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Sully wrote:
Right? The GOAT Farm was littered with RC's roached out bikes, and people think Kenny's bike is bad? For those saying Kenny's trying to make Honda...
Right? The GOAT Farm was littered with RC's roached out bikes, and people think Kenny's bike is bad?

For those saying Kenny's trying to make Honda look bad; does it make them look any worse than Jett's motor letting go on live TV at Red Bud?
Yes, but did Jett post on Instagram and complain about it? I don’t think it was Ken’s intention to make Honda look bad but it can be interpreted differently (negatively) by others including Honda.
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AJ565 9/13/2022 5:26am
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AJ565 wrote:
The marks on the hub look more like the sprocket bolts failed and snapped off the guide. I would think if the guide stopped the chain...
The marks on the hub look more like the sprocket bolts failed and snapped off the guide. I would think if the guide stopped the chain from moving the sheer marks would be the other direction from the wheel turning.
Jeremy Macduff wrote:
All 6 sprocket bolts sheared. I can't imagine that happening unless the rotational inertia of the wheel came to a sudden halt and they all experienced...
All 6 sprocket bolts sheared. I can't imagine that happening unless the rotational inertia of the wheel came to a sudden halt and they all experienced the same shearing force. The only force I can see in this sequence of events causing that dramatic of a sudden stop of inertia is the chain guide binding up as we see in the photo. The forward inertia of the bike, coupled with the bound up chain could shear those rear sprocket bolts. I just don't see all 6 shearing on their own.
You mean a sudden change in wheel speed like maybe Kenny blitzing the whoops and maybe skipping one with a panic revving and the rear wheel hitting the next one? If they weren’t tight enough and let the sprocket move that could cause it. I’m just saying the witness marks show the sprocket rotating forward to sheer bolts, not the other way around.
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TalinH112 9/13/2022 5:29am
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WillyB wrote:
Glad Kenny is alright
This is 100% the correct response to this situation.
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Silas444 9/13/2022 5:38am
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Call me stupid if you must, but why would Honda be mad? Whoever makes his billet hubs might be mad, whoever makes his chain guard might be mad, and Rental certainly might be mad as they supply the bike's chain and sprockets - but Honda?

As that old saying goes, "Not their circus, not their monkeys."
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thatswhathappens 9/13/2022 5:48am
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If this is how threads are going to go through the off-season, I’ll catch you guys in January, lol. A part broke, he made a post in the moment since it could’ve fucked him up, and deleted it when he cooled down. How does this have four pages already?
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GrapeApe 9/13/2022 5:50am
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Call me stupid if you must, but why would Honda be mad? Whoever makes his billet hubs might be mad, whoever makes his chain guard might...
Call me stupid if you must, but why would Honda be mad? Whoever makes his billet hubs might be mad, whoever makes his chain guard might be mad, and Rental certainly might be mad as they supply the bike's chain and sprockets - but Honda?

As that old saying goes, "Not their circus, not their monkeys."
The only obvious failure in the pictures is the chain guide, a Honda part. The hub, sprocket and chain are fine.

Regardless, I would not want the rider I pay millions telling his 1.5 million followers "hey look, my bike failed today" with photos attached. That was a pointed post.
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NorCalRedRyder 9/13/2022 5:55am
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Failed parts? So was it just a pic of him standing in his riding gear?
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Magoofan wrote:
JSloan strikes again! lol ....in all seriousness. I'm a fan of Ken and have huge respect for what he's been thru and how far he's come...
JSloan strikes again!

lol



....in all seriousness. I'm a fan of Ken and have huge respect for what he's been thru and how far he's come back from horrible injuries. That said, his social media presence is just cringe. He just needs to step away from it.

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100% he is the Kevin Durant of moto.
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Wouldnt go that far. Kenny brought Suzuki its last title before leaving. Pre-injury Kenny was an animal. Its odd. We talk about Kenny like finishing top...
Wouldnt go that far. Kenny brought Suzuki its last title before leaving. Pre-injury Kenny was an animal.

Its odd. We talk about Kenny like finishing top 2-5 in points is disappointing/failure and hes finished where as most riders will never come close to that in a career year. In my opinion a testament to just how good he was/still can be when he's on.
Nothing I said has anything to do with his results. He’s just way too on line a la KD. Everything gets to him and he then lets people know it.
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ToolMaker 9/13/2022 6:10am
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Jeremy Macduff wrote:
1. Chain guide snapped off and got bound up by the countershaft sprocket 2. Chain locked up 3. Rear sprocket bolts sheared and ovaled the bolt...
1. Chain guide snapped off and got bound up by the countershaft sprocket
2. Chain locked up
3. Rear sprocket bolts sheared and ovaled the bolt holes in the aluminum hub. Steel bolts are stronger than aluminum but not stronger than all that rotational inertia coming to a sudden and violent halt.
AJ565 wrote:
The marks on the hub look more like the sprocket bolts failed and snapped off the guide. I would think if the guide stopped the chain...
The marks on the hub look more like the sprocket bolts failed and snapped off the guide. I would think if the guide stopped the chain from moving the sheer marks would be the other direction from the wheel turning.
Not only that, IF the chain guide went first the sprocket would be bent.
Bolts first, created slack, chain jammed in chain guide ripping chain guide off. Welds would have been just fine otherwise.
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Sully 9/13/2022 6:12am
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Sully wrote:
Right? The GOAT Farm was littered with RC's roached out bikes, and people think Kenny's bike is bad? For those saying Kenny's trying to make Honda...
Right? The GOAT Farm was littered with RC's roached out bikes, and people think Kenny's bike is bad?

For those saying Kenny's trying to make Honda look bad; does it make them look any worse than Jett's motor letting go on live TV at Red Bud?
Searights wrote:
Yes, but did Jett post on Instagram and complain about it? I don’t think it was Ken’s intention to make Honda look bad but it can...
Yes, but did Jett post on Instagram and complain about it? I don’t think it was Ken’s intention to make Honda look bad but it can be interpreted differently (negatively) by others including Honda.
Did Kenny? Because the image posted a page or so back just said things were going great until the bike broke. I’m really not sure what makes you think there’s some hidden meaning you need to interpret.
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MotofactioN 9/13/2022 6:19am
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Yep, he’ll be on a Suzuki next year. At least the parts on those bikes are quality.
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FlickitFlat 9/13/2022 6:26am
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That new Honda has so much power it ripped the sprocket right off the wheel.
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ToolMaker 9/13/2022 6:27am
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AJ565 wrote:
The marks on the hub look more like the sprocket bolts failed and snapped off the guide. I would think if the guide stopped the chain...
The marks on the hub look more like the sprocket bolts failed and snapped off the guide. I would think if the guide stopped the chain from moving the sheer marks would be the other direction from the wheel turning.
Jeremy Macduff wrote:
All 6 sprocket bolts sheared. I can't imagine that happening unless the rotational inertia of the wheel came to a sudden halt and they all experienced...
All 6 sprocket bolts sheared. I can't imagine that happening unless the rotational inertia of the wheel came to a sudden halt and they all experienced the same shearing force. The only force I can see in this sequence of events causing that dramatic of a sudden stop of inertia is the chain guide binding up as we see in the photo. The forward inertia of the bike, coupled with the bound up chain could shear those rear sprocket bolts. I just don't see all 6 shearing on their own.
If the guide went first, you'd have at least 1 or 2 of the bolts fail in tensile strength. The sprocket would be pushing so hard on the hub it would bend and pop at least 1 or 2 of the bolt apart. Possibly 1 or 2 of the bolts fatigued and broke off then the remaining bolts could not provide enough shear strength to overcome the forces. This all started with the bolts.
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H.E.penyypacker432 9/13/2022 6:36am
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Meister wrote:
Man the people that post here thinking they know everything is comical lol.. there are those that do know what they're looking at and those who...
Man the people that post here thinking they know everything is comical lol.. there are those that do know what they're looking at and those who come up with some wild shit lol..

I'm laughing most at the people saying his bike looks beat.. The guys at his level can eat a bike alive in one session. Their 30 minutes is our 30 hours abuse wise.
Where do you get this info from? Lol cause it sounds like you’ve got zero idea what you’re talking about. Your first sentence sounds like you…
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