TRIUMPH Announces Coming Line Of MX and Enduro Bikes, Carmichael to Test

8tensolutions wrote:

And the car is lower quality overall than a Honda and costs twice as much. Fast, yes. Novelty, yes with big screens and cameras etc. Efficient...

And the car is lower quality overall than a Honda and costs twice as much. Fast, yes. Novelty, yes with big screens and cameras etc. Efficient and cost effective? Not so much.

With that said, I am all for electric on the moto side and the performance of Teslas is very commendable.....but pretending they are saving the environment and/or will save money over cost of gas is ridiculous. The cost of electricity, charges, supercharges.....and mostly the cost of the car themselves outweigh any savings. What I don't understand is why Hybrids aren't deemed as "cool" or environmental. Imagine a Tesla with a 1.5 liter 4 cylinder on board that could charge as needed or be turned off completely for city driving when it is not required for longer distances? On longer trips, it could run for an hour so to get the battery topped off and would be far more efficient than stopping for an hour at a supercharger, would cost less, and burn very little fuel.

vitalriderCrf wrote:

I'm getting impatient. Where is this thing? Can someone in the UK go hide in the bushes and snap some pics?

GrapeApe wrote:

Did you not see on the previous page where SmokinJoe from Renton, WA said he has a friend that says the MX bike isn't going to...

Did you not see on the previous page where SmokinJoe from Renton, WA said he has a friend that says the MX bike isn't going to happen? Nothing left to discuss here, end of thread. lol

8tensolutions wrote:

And the car is lower quality overall than a Honda and costs twice as much. Fast, yes. Novelty, yes with big screens and cameras etc. Efficient...

And the car is lower quality overall than a Honda and costs twice as much. Fast, yes. Novelty, yes with big screens and cameras etc. Efficient and cost effective? Not so much.

With that said, I am all for electric on the moto side and the performance of Teslas is very commendable.....but pretending they are saving the environment and/or will save money over cost of gas is ridiculous. The cost of electricity, charges, supercharges.....and mostly the cost of the car themselves outweigh any savings. What I don't understand is why Hybrids aren't deemed as "cool" or environmental. Imagine a Tesla with a 1.5 liter 4 cylinder on board that could charge as needed or be turned off completely for city driving when it is not required for longer distances? On longer trips, it could run for an hour so to get the battery topped off and would be far more efficient than stopping for an hour at a supercharger, would cost less, and burn very little fuel.

vitalriderCrf wrote:

I'm getting impatient. Where is this thing? Can someone in the UK go hide in the bushes and snap some pics?

GrapeApe wrote:

Did you not see on the previous page where SmokinJoe from Renton, WA said he has a friend that says the MX bike isn't going to...

Did you not see on the previous page where SmokinJoe from Renton, WA said he has a friend that says the MX bike isn't going to happen? Nothing left to discuss here, end of thread. lol

vitalriderCrf wrote:

No I didn't. I'm at work. Thanks. Why no MX bike?

vitalriderCrf wrote:

I'm getting impatient. Where is this thing? Can someone in the UK go hide in the bushes and snap some pics?

Rosso391 wrote:

I have a lot more confidence that Triumph will deliver a good bike from nothing compared to Stark delivering a new E-Bike based off a lot...

I have a lot more confidence that Triumph will deliver a good bike from nothing compared to Stark delivering a new E-Bike based off a lot of overpromise.

Langhammx wrote:

The doom and gloom guy has spoken

Rosso391 wrote:

Well... On one hand you have "Triumph, a large motorcycle brand with years of experience" The other hand you have "sTaRk vArG, started from nothing, is...

Well...

On one hand you have "Triumph, a large motorcycle brand with years of experience"

The other hand you have "sTaRk vArG, started from nothing, is still nothing, promises the world"

Not-a-Fan wrote:

These posts made me do some research and you're right there is just no way. I'm reading a normal car charger uses 7200w of power. I...

These posts made me do some research and you're right there is just no way. I'm reading a normal car charger uses 7200w of power. I hope I'm misunderstanding the article cause id not we really do have a long way to go. At one point my electric was $0.42 kWh, that means a 10hrs charge overnight to have a full battery in the morning would cost me $30.25 in electric, might as well pass that $5 a gallon gas over here at that point. Pay less, don't have to buy a new car, instantly refill with gas on a road trip, and I can actually fix it myself. Electric future ain't looking so hot to me, at least for cars. I'm down with the electric bikes.

early wrote:

Standard Tesla model 3 battery has a usable capacity of 40kWh, so a full charge would cost about $17 at your rate. My power is less...

Standard Tesla model 3 battery has a usable capacity of 40kWh, so a full charge would cost about $17 at your rate. My power is less than $.15 per kWh so that's about $6, or a gallon and a half of gas. Of course budget about $1500-$2k for a charger install so that stings haha.

8tensolutions wrote:

And the car is lower quality overall than a Honda and costs twice as much. Fast, yes. Novelty, yes with big screens and cameras etc. Efficient...

And the car is lower quality overall than a Honda and costs twice as much. Fast, yes. Novelty, yes with big screens and cameras etc. Efficient and cost effective? Not so much.

With that said, I am all for electric on the moto side and the performance of Teslas is very commendable.....but pretending they are saving the environment and/or will save money over cost of gas is ridiculous. The cost of electricity, charges, supercharges.....and mostly the cost of the car themselves outweigh any savings. What I don't understand is why Hybrids aren't deemed as "cool" or environmental. Imagine a Tesla with a 1.5 liter 4 cylinder on board that could charge as needed or be turned off completely for city driving when it is not required for longer distances? On longer trips, it could run for an hour so to get the battery topped off and would be far more efficient than stopping for an hour at a supercharger, would cost less, and burn very little fuel.

8tensolutions wrote:

And the car is lower quality overall than a Honda and costs twice as much. Fast, yes. Novelty, yes with big screens and cameras etc. Efficient...

And the car is lower quality overall than a Honda and costs twice as much. Fast, yes. Novelty, yes with big screens and cameras etc. Efficient and cost effective? Not so much.

With that said, I am all for electric on the moto side and the performance of Teslas is very commendable.....but pretending they are saving the environment and/or will save money over cost of gas is ridiculous. The cost of electricity, charges, supercharges.....and mostly the cost of the car themselves outweigh any savings. What I don't understand is why Hybrids aren't deemed as "cool" or environmental. Imagine a Tesla with a 1.5 liter 4 cylinder on board that could charge as needed or be turned off completely for city driving when it is not required for longer distances? On longer trips, it could run for an hour so to get the battery topped off and would be far more efficient than stopping for an hour at a supercharger, would cost less, and burn very little fuel.

Alan Dove wrote:

No personal vehicles are considered particularly environmental.

early wrote:

Standard Tesla model 3 battery has a usable capacity of 40kWh, so a full charge would cost about $17 at your rate. My power is less...

Standard Tesla model 3 battery has a usable capacity of 40kWh, so a full charge would cost about $17 at your rate. My power is less than $.15 per kWh so that's about $6, or a gallon and a half of gas. Of course budget about $1500-$2k for a charger install so that stings haha.

8tensolutions wrote:

And the car is lower quality overall than a Honda and costs twice as much. Fast, yes. Novelty, yes with big screens and cameras etc. Efficient...

And the car is lower quality overall than a Honda and costs twice as much. Fast, yes. Novelty, yes with big screens and cameras etc. Efficient and cost effective? Not so much.

With that said, I am all for electric on the moto side and the performance of Teslas is very commendable.....but pretending they are saving the environment and/or will save money over cost of gas is ridiculous. The cost of electricity, charges, supercharges.....and mostly the cost of the car themselves outweigh any savings. What I don't understand is why Hybrids aren't deemed as "cool" or environmental. Imagine a Tesla with a 1.5 liter 4 cylinder on board that could charge as needed or be turned off completely for city driving when it is not required for longer distances? On longer trips, it could run for an hour so to get the battery topped off and would be far more efficient than stopping for an hour at a supercharger, would cost less, and burn very little fuel.

Crash81 wrote:

You're not getting accurate data from your news source. Electric is going to take over specifically because it's cheaper overall on humanity.

vitalriderCrf wrote:

I'm getting impatient. Where is this thing? Can someone in the UK go hide in the bushes and snap some pics?

vitalriderCrf wrote:

I'm getting impatient. Where is this thing? Can someone in the UK go hide in the bushes and snap some pics?

philG wrote:

i live 2 miles from the factory , and know people that work there and its crickets.  Fair play to them for keeping it under wraps. ...

i live 2 miles from the factory , and know people that work there and its crickets. 

Fair play to them for keeping it under wraps. 

 

OleTex wrote:

Still hoping it’s air cooled. 

nofearccracer wrote:

I stopped into my local Triumph dealer a couple weeks ago to try and get some info on the mx bikes. They were definitely tight lipped...

I stopped into my local Triumph dealer a couple weeks ago to try and get some info on the mx bikes. They were definitely tight lipped on a lot of what they did know and still in the dark about a lot of details as well but one thing i took away from the convo is that it sounds like there is a good chance it will have KYB suspension on it...

nofearccracer wrote:

I stopped into my local Triumph dealer a couple weeks ago to try and get some info on the mx bikes. They were definitely tight lipped...

I stopped into my local Triumph dealer a couple weeks ago to try and get some info on the mx bikes. They were definitely tight lipped on a lot of what they did know and still in the dark about a lot of details as well but one thing i took away from the convo is that it sounds like there is a good chance it will have KYB suspension on it...

McG194 wrote:

They're not tight lipped, rank and file dealer employee will be just guessing.