TRIUMPH Announces Coming Line Of MX and Enduro Bikes, Carmichael to Test

Alan Dove
Profile picture for user Alan Dove
Posts
339
Joined
12/29/2020
Location
GB
Alan Dove 1/29/2022 1:14pm
1/29/2022 1:14pm
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Triumph guys at A2. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/01/29/531098/s1200_272816631_1120178508744875_5744278520007518482_n.jpg[/img]
Triumph guys at A2.

I've never felt so patriotic. The brits are coming.
9
TeamGreen
Profile picture for user TeamGreen
Posts
28948
Joined
11/25/2008
Location
Thru-out, CA US
TeamGreen 1/29/2022 1:17pm
1/29/2022 1:17pm
Ruh Roh

The Red Coats are HERE!

Grinning

I can't wait to run "278" on a Brit Bike
10
Murph
Profile picture for user Murph
Posts
65
Joined
6/10/2012
Location
GB
Murph 2/1/2022 6:40am
2/1/2022 6:40am
At least this is mostly a proper Triumph.





11
1

The Shop

See All »
Money
Profile picture for user Money
Posts
1135
Joined
1/18/2011
Location
Fresno, CA US
Money 2/1/2022 6:51am
2/1/2022 6:51am
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Triumph guys at A2. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/01/29/531098/s1200_272816631_1120178508744875_5744278520007518482_n.jpg[/img]
Triumph guys at A2.

Alan Dove wrote:
I've never felt so patriotic. The brits are coming.
And Bobby Hewitt was there too. Ironic that he was there when the triumph people were there
9
gt80rider
Profile picture for user gt80rider
Posts
6275
Joined
4/19/2008
Location
Boulder, CO US
gt80rider 2/1/2022 7:27am
2/1/2022 7:27am
Since the announcement in July.. it looks like they've made it to the t-shirt stage!! Triumph is truly crushing it...... now, if they could just put out a bike (that nobody was asking for and the market needs like a hole in the head).....
1
36
VicDaMoan03
Profile picture for user VicDaMoan03
Posts
598
Joined
5/30/2013
Location
Los Lunas, NM US
VicDaMoan03 2/1/2022 7:34am
2/1/2022 7:34am
Was the old model Suzuki comment here just speculation or a valid rumor?
1
Alan Dove
Profile picture for user Alan Dove
Posts
339
Joined
12/29/2020
Location
GB
Alan Dove 2/1/2022 7:58am
2/1/2022 7:58am
gt80rider wrote:
Since the announcement in July.. it looks like they've made it to the t-shirt stage!! Triumph is truly crushing it...... now, if they could just put...
Since the announcement in July.. it looks like they've made it to the t-shirt stage!! Triumph is truly crushing it...... now, if they could just put out a bike (that nobody was asking for and the market needs like a hole in the head).....
Racing always needs more manufacturers so not sure what you mean by the market doesn't need it.
14
JBlain619
Profile picture for user JBlain619
Posts
1719
Joined
6/10/2010
Location
Severna Park, MD US
JBlain619 2/1/2022 8:04am
2/1/2022 8:04am
VicDaMoan03 wrote:
Was the old model Suzuki comment here just speculation or a valid rumor?
Speculation. Just like it's speculation that its a badged Austrian bike.
3
soggy
Profile picture for user soggy
Posts
4871
Joined
12/3/2018
Location
UT US
Fantasy
3846th
soggy 2/1/2022 8:28am
2/1/2022 8:28am
gt80rider wrote:
Since the announcement in July.. it looks like they've made it to the t-shirt stage!! Triumph is truly crushing it...... now, if they could just put...
Since the announcement in July.. it looks like they've made it to the t-shirt stage!! Triumph is truly crushing it...... now, if they could just put out a bike (that nobody was asking for and the market needs like a hole in the head).....
You are the biggest wet blanket on vital and it’s not particularly close. You have a problem with everything.
34
soggy
Profile picture for user soggy
Posts
4871
Joined
12/3/2018
Location
UT US
Fantasy
3846th
soggy 2/1/2022 8:29am
2/1/2022 8:29am
VicDaMoan03 wrote:
Was the old model Suzuki comment here just speculation or a valid rumor?
Rumor was they were testing there chassis with a Suzuki motor in it. Whether they’ll use a Suzuki motor in production is anyone’s guess
tek14
Profile picture for user tek14
Posts
4585
Joined
1/26/2014
Location
Vantaa FI
tek14 2/1/2022 12:05pm
2/1/2022 12:05pm
VicDaMoan03 wrote:
Was the old model Suzuki comment here just speculation or a valid rumor?
soggy wrote:
Rumor was they were testing there chassis with a Suzuki motor in it. Whether they’ll use a Suzuki motor in production is anyone’s guess
It was Suzuki frame and their motor?
Alan Dove
Profile picture for user Alan Dove
Posts
339
Joined
12/29/2020
Location
GB
Alan Dove 2/1/2022 12:22pm
2/1/2022 12:22pm
If you can test a chassis before the motor is ready, then you bolt what you can in... is the logic there I'd guess. Highly unlikely Triumph are gonna use an off the shelf engine in actual production.
peltier626
Profile picture for user peltier626
Posts
1401
Joined
3/15/2018
Location
LA US
peltier626 2/1/2022 4:49pm
2/1/2022 4:49pm
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Triumph guys at A2. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/01/29/531098/s1200_272816631_1120178508744875_5744278520007518482_n.jpg[/img]
Triumph guys at A2.

Ahh progression! Now we are getting somewhere. Here comes the men in black!
2
ACBailey89
Profile picture for user ACBailey89
Posts
328
Joined
2/10/2021
Location
Bend, OR US
Fantasy
2553rd
ACBailey89 2/1/2022 6:12pm
2/1/2022 6:12pm Edited Date/Time 2/1/2022 6:16pm
Sounds like a slow process
miserablebear 2/1/2022 7:59pm
2/1/2022 7:59pm
gt80rider wrote:
Since the announcement in July.. it looks like they've made it to the t-shirt stage!! Triumph is truly crushing it...... now, if they could just put...
Since the announcement in July.. it looks like they've made it to the t-shirt stage!! Triumph is truly crushing it...... now, if they could just put out a bike (that nobody was asking for and the market needs like a hole in the head).....
I might be the only one here that agrees with you. While a new bike would be cool, this is the worst time and market for one. This is not an industry running rampant with demand. An overcrowded market can be very bad for ALL manufacturers and thus customers. Splitting sales further is only going to reduce profits and thus reinvestment. So we get less innovation and potentially even the demise of an existing manufacturer. In this case, I see Triumph ultimately pulling the plug. The only question is how much time and money they burn before doing so. I think this is a horrendous decision by Triumph management.
4
34
Jason XCmtb 2/2/2022 12:40am
2/2/2022 12:40am
gt80rider wrote:
Since the announcement in July.. it looks like they've made it to the t-shirt stage!! Triumph is truly crushing it...... now, if they could just put...
Since the announcement in July.. it looks like they've made it to the t-shirt stage!! Triumph is truly crushing it...... now, if they could just put out a bike (that nobody was asking for and the market needs like a hole in the head).....
miserablebear wrote:
I might be the only one here that agrees with you. While a new bike would be cool, this is the worst time and market for...
I might be the only one here that agrees with you. While a new bike would be cool, this is the worst time and market for one. This is not an industry running rampant with demand. An overcrowded market can be very bad for ALL manufacturers and thus customers. Splitting sales further is only going to reduce profits and thus reinvestment. So we get less innovation and potentially even the demise of an existing manufacturer. In this case, I see Triumph ultimately pulling the plug. The only question is how much time and money they burn before doing so. I think this is a horrendous decision by Triumph management.
Yeah, because KTM have done reeeeally badly investing in the off-road market while the Japs took their eye off the ball..

The history of modern-era Triumph is one of research, careful planning, thoroughly tested products released in markets they've done their homework on. John Bloor isn't a guy for vanity projects.
18
2

Pit Row

See All »
mjones7212
Profile picture for user mjones7212
Posts
164
Joined
8/5/2021
Location
Oildale, CA US
Fantasy
3327th
mjones7212 2/2/2022 9:28am
2/2/2022 9:28am
I heard Ryder D is who they are looking at as a rider
3
nofearccracer
Profile picture for user nofearccracer
Posts
217
Joined
12/6/2010
Location
White Lake, MI US
Fantasy
1193rd
nofearccracer 2/2/2022 9:48am
2/2/2022 9:48am
VicDaMoan03 wrote:
Was the old model Suzuki comment here just speculation or a valid rumor?
soggy wrote:
Rumor was they were testing there chassis with a Suzuki motor in it. Whether they’ll use a Suzuki motor in production is anyone’s guess
Based on a recent interview, one of the high ups at Triumph America came from suzuki, so that makes sense why/where that connection came from.

Which motor is used in production will all depend on when production begins I'm sure, as rumor is they have their own engine in development but the chassis and rest of the bike is much closer to production ready. Will be up to them if they want to get it on the market to start racing and selling bikes using suzuki or someone else's motor, or hold off until the in house engine is ready as well.
TeamGreen
Profile picture for user TeamGreen
Posts
28948
Joined
11/25/2008
Location
Thru-out, CA US
TeamGreen 2/2/2022 10:01am
2/2/2022 10:01am Edited Date/Time 2/2/2022 10:03am
gt80rider wrote:
Since the announcement in July.. it looks like they've made it to the t-shirt stage!! Triumph is truly crushing it...... now, if they could just put...
Since the announcement in July.. it looks like they've made it to the t-shirt stage!! Triumph is truly crushing it...... now, if they could just put out a bike (that nobody was asking for and the market needs like a hole in the head).....
miserablebear wrote:
I might be the only one here that agrees with you. While a new bike would be cool, this is the worst time and market for...
I might be the only one here that agrees with you. While a new bike would be cool, this is the worst time and market for one. This is not an industry running rampant with demand. An overcrowded market can be very bad for ALL manufacturers and thus customers. Splitting sales further is only going to reduce profits and thus reinvestment. So we get less innovation and potentially even the demise of an existing manufacturer. In this case, I see Triumph ultimately pulling the plug. The only question is how much time and money they burn before doing so. I think this is a horrendous decision by Triumph management.
Jason XCmtb wrote:
Yeah, because KTM have done reeeeally badly investing in the off-road market while the Japs took their eye off the ball.. The history of modern-era Triumph...
Yeah, because KTM have done reeeeally badly investing in the off-road market while the Japs took their eye off the ball..

The history of modern-era Triumph is one of research, careful planning, thoroughly tested products released in markets they've done their homework on. John Bloor isn't a guy for vanity projects.
Yup

Seems to me…I’ve been reading about record sales numbers in the off-road and dual-sport segments, too. So, I’m really not getting how anyone that’s following the industry can say this is “bad timing”…?

Over the last few years, in addition to the brands that have historically been involved in the market, KTM has added GasGas (and that’s increased unit sales), Beta’s grown rather rapidly, various electric brands are selling plenty of units…like Zero, and now Triumph and the rumor mill says Harley is taking a look…so…

I think Triumph is doing this from a wise and informed position that’s based on brand awareness and development. Since the 90s, when Triumph really became a legit OEM/brand…again, they’ve made plenty of smart moves.
6
ricky racer
Profile picture for user ricky racer
Posts
196
Joined
12/25/2011
Location
Niles, MI US
ricky racer 2/2/2022 10:44am
2/2/2022 10:44am Edited Date/Time 2/2/2022 10:46am
With all of the excitement and talk about electric motorcycles and the direction that the industry is heading, it seems like any new venture into any new motorcycle would likely be electric not gas powered. Not that I want to see that. I wonder if that could be partly what the talks with the AMA and Feld are about. Sooner or later they're going to have to allow e-bikes on the track.
4
6
mooch
Profile picture for user mooch
Posts
1387
Joined
2/16/2008
Location
OH US
Fantasy
501st
mooch 2/2/2022 11:26am
2/2/2022 11:26am
gt80rider wrote:
Since the announcement in July.. it looks like they've made it to the t-shirt stage!! Triumph is truly crushing it...... now, if they could just put...
Since the announcement in July.. it looks like they've made it to the t-shirt stage!! Triumph is truly crushing it...... now, if they could just put out a bike (that nobody was asking for and the market needs like a hole in the head).....
soggy wrote:
You are the biggest wet blanket on vital and it’s not particularly close. You have a problem with everything.
Believe that must be some kinda schtick he likes doing...very hard to be so consistently annoying.
4
brocster
Profile picture for user brocster
Posts
3606
Joined
6/9/2009
Location
Aliso Viejo, CA US
brocster 2/2/2022 12:09pm
2/2/2022 12:09pm
gt80rider wrote:
Since the announcement in July.. it looks like they've made it to the t-shirt stage!! Triumph is truly crushing it...... now, if they could just put...
Since the announcement in July.. it looks like they've made it to the t-shirt stage!! Triumph is truly crushing it...... now, if they could just put out a bike (that nobody was asking for and the market needs like a hole in the head).....
soggy wrote:
You are the biggest wet blanket on vital and it’s not particularly close. You have a problem with everything.
mooch wrote:
Believe that must be some kinda schtick he likes doing...very hard to be so consistently annoying.
Probably because he was bullied as a kid. He rode a gt80 you know…



I kid, I had a clapped out gt80 that I bought for $50 that I couldn’t keep running for shit.
INeedaNewUsername 2/2/2022 3:48pm
2/2/2022 3:48pm
Bet they don't Cannondale it and try to reinvent the wheel,I mean engine and have consumers try to finish R&D, the be left with their dicks in hand.
davis224
Profile picture for user davis224
Posts
6248
Joined
8/15/2006
Location
Cornland, IL US
Fantasy
165th
davis224 2/2/2022 4:26pm
2/2/2022 4:26pm
ricky racer wrote:
With all of the excitement and talk about electric motorcycles and the direction that the industry is heading, it seems like any new venture into any...
With all of the excitement and talk about electric motorcycles and the direction that the industry is heading, it seems like any new venture into any new motorcycle would likely be electric not gas powered. Not that I want to see that. I wonder if that could be partly what the talks with the AMA and Feld are about. Sooner or later they're going to have to allow e-bikes on the track.
If they were strictly focusing on the mx market that makes more sense, but I believe it's been said a few times that they're only going MX racing to legitimize/draw interest to their adventure bikes, and battery tech isn't there yet for an ADV bike application. IMO.
wfopete
Profile picture for user wfopete
Posts
356
Joined
7/27/2015
Location
Dover, AR US
wfopete 2/3/2022 8:55am
2/3/2022 8:55am
ricky racer wrote:
With all of the excitement and talk about electric motorcycles and the direction that the industry is heading, it seems like any new venture into any...
With all of the excitement and talk about electric motorcycles and the direction that the industry is heading, it seems like any new venture into any new motorcycle would likely be electric not gas powered. Not that I want to see that. I wonder if that could be partly what the talks with the AMA and Feld are about. Sooner or later they're going to have to allow e-bikes on the track.
Agreed. Why invest with a totally new ICE bike when in a few years they may very well be on the way out?
2
5
JOE_SPROCKETS#1 2/3/2022 9:08am
2/3/2022 9:08am Edited Date/Time 2/3/2022 9:09am
ricky racer wrote:
With all of the excitement and talk about electric motorcycles and the direction that the industry is heading, it seems like any new venture into any...
With all of the excitement and talk about electric motorcycles and the direction that the industry is heading, it seems like any new venture into any new motorcycle would likely be electric not gas powered. Not that I want to see that. I wonder if that could be partly what the talks with the AMA and Feld are about. Sooner or later they're going to have to allow e-bikes on the track.
wfopete wrote:
Agreed. Why invest with a totally new ICE bike when in a few years they may very well be on the way out?
I never understood why it has to be one or the other? what if they developed a bike with either option? i would guess weight would be an issue but maybe even a hybrid?
3
KONG
Profile picture for user KONG
Posts
783
Joined
9/2/2021
Location
FR
KONG 2/3/2022 9:52am
2/3/2022 9:52am
wfopete wrote:
Agreed. Why invest with a totally new ICE bike when in a few years they may very well be on the way out?
Cuz' they've got balls and stick to their guns?
So rare, these days...
1
2

Post a reply to: TRIUMPH Announces Coming Line Of MX and Enduro Bikes, Carmichael to Test