2023 KTM 350 SX-F

Sargebro387
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8/16/2022 2:54pm
Figured I would post my very short term review on my 350 after putting about 2 hrs on it at home.

Warning: this might turn into a novel.

I bought an XC-F instead of the SX-F because I ride moto, race hare scrambles, and occasionally trails.

I've been a 2 stroke only guy for a handful of years(02 YZ250, but primarily a 03 CR125) and never meshed well with 4 strokes in the past, especially KTM chassis/ergos (2 or 4 stroke). They just always felt weird to me after being so used to Japanese bikes. A buddy bought a 22.5 RSE FC450 and I rode that and was blown away at how good it felt right away, but it still had that heavy cumbersome feel that accompanies 450s. I really liked the chassis feel, but I felt the 350 would be the perfect middle ground for me. (33yr old vet C/slow B, 6'1", 195 lbs.)

Ordered the 350XCF, along with a 250XCF for the wife. It showed up this last Friday and I brought it home. Greased up the linkage and headset, plate backgrounds, swapped the flexx bars onto it from my YZ and started the break in motos.

My backyard track is about 3/4 mile long, pretty flowy, but has some tight spots with jumps out of corners and enough obstacles to keep you on your toes. I started off in the mellow map and was able to cruise my whole track in 3rd gear, no problem pulling out of corners, but mainly was taking outside lines. It was so smooth and controllable, even in the aggressive map.

The rear shock is super plush. Waiting to break in the AER48 to form an opinion there. If it needs more, I will likely do the JBI diy revalve since I like to wrench on stuff myself.

The rider triangle/cockpit is extremely comfortable for me and I felt at home right away. The wife even noticed how quickly I adjusted to it, having ranted about not liking KTMs in the past lol. As someone that has a horrible habit of holding on with legs/knees/ankles, the shape of the rear plates helps a ton with that and you definitely feel locked in while standing.

Running all stock suspension settings, 105mm sag, 140psi in the fork, the bike drops effortlessly into corners and made me feel like a hero after being so used to the amount of work it takes to ride my CR125 aggressively and be perfect all the time. It feels so light when you're riding it. You really only notice it when lifting it on the stand. Also very little engine braking, even with only 2 hours on it.

Speaking of the CR, I hopped on that after the 2nd break in moto to allow the 350 to cool down, thinking I was going to be ripping on it after getting used to the 350 power.. All I can say is how bummed I am about how crappy that bike feels now compared to the 350. Super rigid, narrow, and just all around uncomfortable. And that has been my go to bike for the last couple years, sprung and valved for me, is in good shape mechanically, and I loved it. Im a hoarder with everything, including bikes, but I think I'm going to sell it 😆

The only dislikes I have were the stock neken bars are super rigid, the ODI Grips are pretty rough, and the grab area above the filter to help lift it onto the stand is kind of in an awkward place. Other than that, I couldn't be happier with the bike. It has exceeded all the expectations I had.

So go buy one! 🍺








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cwel11 wrote:
Never will understand KTM logic. Hey guys super easy to change your air filter, but watch what we do on your oil drain bolt. Still pisses...
Never will understand KTM logic. Hey guys super easy to change your air filter, but watch what we do on your oil drain bolt. Still pisses me off when I change oil. Then there’s our 85 with the drain bolt on the brake side behind the brake pedal? Seriously the guy that decides KTM drain bolt placements has got to be on meth.
That right side magnetic drain plug on the 85 will make sense to you when the clutch hub nut lock washer tab breaks off.

Notice I said when, not if.
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8/16/2022 4:33pm
Figured I would post my very short term review on my 350 after putting about 2 hrs on it at home. Warning: this might turn into...
Figured I would post my very short term review on my 350 after putting about 2 hrs on it at home.

Warning: this might turn into a novel.

I bought an XC-F instead of the SX-F because I ride moto, race hare scrambles, and occasionally trails.

I've been a 2 stroke only guy for a handful of years(02 YZ250, but primarily a 03 CR125) and never meshed well with 4 strokes in the past, especially KTM chassis/ergos (2 or 4 stroke). They just always felt weird to me after being so used to Japanese bikes. A buddy bought a 22.5 RSE FC450 and I rode that and was blown away at how good it felt right away, but it still had that heavy cumbersome feel that accompanies 450s. I really liked the chassis feel, but I felt the 350 would be the perfect middle ground for me. (33yr old vet C/slow B, 6'1", 195 lbs.)

Ordered the 350XCF, along with a 250XCF for the wife. It showed up this last Friday and I brought it home. Greased up the linkage and headset, plate backgrounds, swapped the flexx bars onto it from my YZ and started the break in motos.

My backyard track is about 3/4 mile long, pretty flowy, but has some tight spots with jumps out of corners and enough obstacles to keep you on your toes. I started off in the mellow map and was able to cruise my whole track in 3rd gear, no problem pulling out of corners, but mainly was taking outside lines. It was so smooth and controllable, even in the aggressive map.

The rear shock is super plush. Waiting to break in the AER48 to form an opinion there. If it needs more, I will likely do the JBI diy revalve since I like to wrench on stuff myself.

The rider triangle/cockpit is extremely comfortable for me and I felt at home right away. The wife even noticed how quickly I adjusted to it, having ranted about not liking KTMs in the past lol. As someone that has a horrible habit of holding on with legs/knees/ankles, the shape of the rear plates helps a ton with that and you definitely feel locked in while standing.

Running all stock suspension settings, 105mm sag, 140psi in the fork, the bike drops effortlessly into corners and made me feel like a hero after being so used to the amount of work it takes to ride my CR125 aggressively and be perfect all the time. It feels so light when you're riding it. You really only notice it when lifting it on the stand. Also very little engine braking, even with only 2 hours on it.

Speaking of the CR, I hopped on that after the 2nd break in moto to allow the 350 to cool down, thinking I was going to be ripping on it after getting used to the 350 power.. All I can say is how bummed I am about how crappy that bike feels now compared to the 350. Super rigid, narrow, and just all around uncomfortable. And that has been my go to bike for the last couple years, sprung and valved for me, is in good shape mechanically, and I loved it. Im a hoarder with everything, including bikes, but I think I'm going to sell it 😆

The only dislikes I have were the stock neken bars are super rigid, the ODI Grips are pretty rough, and the grab area above the filter to help lift it onto the stand is kind of in an awkward place. Other than that, I couldn't be happier with the bike. It has exceeded all the expectations I had.

So go buy one! 🍺








Nice! Is that a private track you have also in WA? Always wanted to buy something up there.
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Cool, I used to live in Vancouver, WA. Thought about buying up there again but still not sure! Enjoy that new bike.....they are nice.
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I'm 215lb naked Vet C rider and tried the KTM350 2 yrs ago after purchasing a 2018 model. Coming off a CRF450 i struggled to come to terms with the power characteristics of that series 350. I'm a vet rider that rides in the meat of the power so revving it hard just didn't suit my riding style. I put on about 7hrs before selling it and went back to a CRF450. I realize that I should given it more time but I had to make a call.
Fast forward to the 23 model and it now sounds like it may finally be worth another shot given it's not a high revving bike and it could be ridden a bit lower on the range. Hoping this can this pull a 220lb rider around the track pretty well - Can any of you lucky owners confirm this??
Thanks Rob
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rob2489 wrote:
I'm 215lb naked Vet C rider and tried the KTM350 2 yrs ago after purchasing a 2018 model. Coming off a CRF450 i struggled to come...
I'm 215lb naked Vet C rider and tried the KTM350 2 yrs ago after purchasing a 2018 model. Coming off a CRF450 i struggled to come to terms with the power characteristics of that series 350. I'm a vet rider that rides in the meat of the power so revving it hard just didn't suit my riding style. I put on about 7hrs before selling it and went back to a CRF450. I realize that I should given it more time but I had to make a call.
Fast forward to the 23 model and it now sounds like it may finally be worth another shot given it's not a high revving bike and it could be ridden a bit lower on the range. Hoping this can this pull a 220lb rider around the track pretty well - Can any of you lucky owners confirm this??
Thanks Rob
Rob I am a 40+ B rider. Was 212lbs when I got the bike. Have since dropped about 15 pounds. I was coming off a 19’ YZ 450 and just raced it for the first times a couple weeks ago at Glen Helen and it has more than enough power. It does rev high but you can ride it in the meat of the power and it pulls great. I have 5 hours on the bike and am very happy with my switch. They say break in happens around the 8 hour mark so I am looking forward to that. It does have a considerable amount of engine break so I’m hoping that frees up a bit. I have not ridden any of the older models so I’m not sure what they were like for comparison but I am completely happy with the switch. Hope this helps.
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rob2489 wrote:
I'm 215lb naked Vet C rider and tried the KTM350 2 yrs ago after purchasing a 2018 model. Coming off a CRF450 i struggled to come...
I'm 215lb naked Vet C rider and tried the KTM350 2 yrs ago after purchasing a 2018 model. Coming off a CRF450 i struggled to come to terms with the power characteristics of that series 350. I'm a vet rider that rides in the meat of the power so revving it hard just didn't suit my riding style. I put on about 7hrs before selling it and went back to a CRF450. I realize that I should given it more time but I had to make a call.
Fast forward to the 23 model and it now sounds like it may finally be worth another shot given it's not a high revving bike and it could be ridden a bit lower on the range. Hoping this can this pull a 220lb rider around the track pretty well - Can any of you lucky owners confirm this??
Thanks Rob
adams189 wrote:
Rob I am a 40+ B rider. Was 212lbs when I got the bike. Have since dropped about 15 pounds. I was coming off a 19’...
Rob I am a 40+ B rider. Was 212lbs when I got the bike. Have since dropped about 15 pounds. I was coming off a 19’ YZ 450 and just raced it for the first times a couple weeks ago at Glen Helen and it has more than enough power. It does rev high but you can ride it in the meat of the power and it pulls great. I have 5 hours on the bike and am very happy with my switch. They say break in happens around the 8 hour mark so I am looking forward to that. It does have a considerable amount of engine break so I’m hoping that frees up a bit. I have not ridden any of the older models so I’m not sure what they were like for comparison but I am completely happy with the switch. Hope this helps.
Thanks for the feed back
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rob2489 wrote:
I'm 215lb naked Vet C rider and tried the KTM350 2 yrs ago after purchasing a 2018 model. Coming off a CRF450 i struggled to come...
I'm 215lb naked Vet C rider and tried the KTM350 2 yrs ago after purchasing a 2018 model. Coming off a CRF450 i struggled to come to terms with the power characteristics of that series 350. I'm a vet rider that rides in the meat of the power so revving it hard just didn't suit my riding style. I put on about 7hrs before selling it and went back to a CRF450. I realize that I should given it more time but I had to make a call.
Fast forward to the 23 model and it now sounds like it may finally be worth another shot given it's not a high revving bike and it could be ridden a bit lower on the range. Hoping this can this pull a 220lb rider around the track pretty well - Can any of you lucky owners confirm this??
Thanks Rob
Hey Man - I was at one point 280 - 300 lbs on my 2017 350, I honestly never felt like I lacked the necessary power to jump everything on the track. I did gear it down from 14/50 to 13/49, which picked up the bottom end snap quite a bit. When riding it back to back with a 450 you can definitely feel the torque and the difference in how it picks up up coming out of turns.

I'm currently in the 240s and the new bike is definitely better, but I don't think it's going to change your mind. My friend, who is a die hard yamaha guy, likes it but would never give up his '22 YZ450F. I definitely recommend you pay someone to ride a few laps on one before making a decision. To me the 350 is more fun to ride in more situations. I owned a '21 YZ250F briefly this year and it's super fun under certain track conditions, and a 450 is definitely fun in certain track conditions. The 350 is just a more do it all bike given my weight and ability.

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Never will understand KTM logic. Hey guys super easy to change your air filter, but watch what we do on your oil drain bolt. Still pisses...
Never will understand KTM logic. Hey guys super easy to change your air filter, but watch what we do on your oil drain bolt. Still pisses me off when I change oil. Then there’s our 85 with the drain bolt on the brake side behind the brake pedal? Seriously the guy that decides KTM drain bolt placements has got to be on meth.
FGR01 wrote:
That right side magnetic drain plug on the 85 will make sense to you when the clutch hub nut lock washer tab breaks off. Notice I...
That right side magnetic drain plug on the 85 will make sense to you when the clutch hub nut lock washer tab breaks off.

Notice I said when, not if.
Cool something to look forward to
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Figured I would post my very short term review on my 350 after putting about 2 hrs on it at home. Warning: this might turn into...
Figured I would post my very short term review on my 350 after putting about 2 hrs on it at home.

Warning: this might turn into a novel.

I bought an XC-F instead of the SX-F because I ride moto, race hare scrambles, and occasionally trails.

I've been a 2 stroke only guy for a handful of years(02 YZ250, but primarily a 03 CR125) and never meshed well with 4 strokes in the past, especially KTM chassis/ergos (2 or 4 stroke). They just always felt weird to me after being so used to Japanese bikes. A buddy bought a 22.5 RSE FC450 and I rode that and was blown away at how good it felt right away, but it still had that heavy cumbersome feel that accompanies 450s. I really liked the chassis feel, but I felt the 350 would be the perfect middle ground for me. (33yr old vet C/slow B, 6'1", 195 lbs.)

Ordered the 350XCF, along with a 250XCF for the wife. It showed up this last Friday and I brought it home. Greased up the linkage and headset, plate backgrounds, swapped the flexx bars onto it from my YZ and started the break in motos.

My backyard track is about 3/4 mile long, pretty flowy, but has some tight spots with jumps out of corners and enough obstacles to keep you on your toes. I started off in the mellow map and was able to cruise my whole track in 3rd gear, no problem pulling out of corners, but mainly was taking outside lines. It was so smooth and controllable, even in the aggressive map.

The rear shock is super plush. Waiting to break in the AER48 to form an opinion there. If it needs more, I will likely do the JBI diy revalve since I like to wrench on stuff myself.

The rider triangle/cockpit is extremely comfortable for me and I felt at home right away. The wife even noticed how quickly I adjusted to it, having ranted about not liking KTMs in the past lol. As someone that has a horrible habit of holding on with legs/knees/ankles, the shape of the rear plates helps a ton with that and you definitely feel locked in while standing.

Running all stock suspension settings, 105mm sag, 140psi in the fork, the bike drops effortlessly into corners and made me feel like a hero after being so used to the amount of work it takes to ride my CR125 aggressively and be perfect all the time. It feels so light when you're riding it. You really only notice it when lifting it on the stand. Also very little engine braking, even with only 2 hours on it.

Speaking of the CR, I hopped on that after the 2nd break in moto to allow the 350 to cool down, thinking I was going to be ripping on it after getting used to the 350 power.. All I can say is how bummed I am about how crappy that bike feels now compared to the 350. Super rigid, narrow, and just all around uncomfortable. And that has been my go to bike for the last couple years, sprung and valved for me, is in good shape mechanically, and I loved it. Im a hoarder with everything, including bikes, but I think I'm going to sell it 😆

The only dislikes I have were the stock neken bars are super rigid, the ODI Grips are pretty rough, and the grab area above the filter to help lift it onto the stand is kind of in an awkward place. Other than that, I couldn't be happier with the bike. It has exceeded all the expectations I had.

So go buy one! 🍺








Badass write up. You're name is Ryan right? I think we've BS'd on instagram a few times talking about bikes, I was asking about the te150 you had. I've been eyeballing a new 125xc or a 250xc-f, just sold my old 300xc.

Do you still have the 150?

When I pick up a bike we should hit the gif, used to ride out there in highschool damn near every weekend till the snow would pile up.
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Figured I would post my very short term review on my 350 after putting about 2 hrs on it at home. Warning: this might turn into...
Figured I would post my very short term review on my 350 after putting about 2 hrs on it at home.

Warning: this might turn into a novel.

I bought an XC-F instead of the SX-F because I ride moto, race hare scrambles, and occasionally trails.

I've been a 2 stroke only guy for a handful of years(02 YZ250, but primarily a 03 CR125) and never meshed well with 4 strokes in the past, especially KTM chassis/ergos (2 or 4 stroke). They just always felt weird to me after being so used to Japanese bikes. A buddy bought a 22.5 RSE FC450 and I rode that and was blown away at how good it felt right away, but it still had that heavy cumbersome feel that accompanies 450s. I really liked the chassis feel, but I felt the 350 would be the perfect middle ground for me. (33yr old vet C/slow B, 6'1", 195 lbs.)

Ordered the 350XCF, along with a 250XCF for the wife. It showed up this last Friday and I brought it home. Greased up the linkage and headset, plate backgrounds, swapped the flexx bars onto it from my YZ and started the break in motos.

My backyard track is about 3/4 mile long, pretty flowy, but has some tight spots with jumps out of corners and enough obstacles to keep you on your toes. I started off in the mellow map and was able to cruise my whole track in 3rd gear, no problem pulling out of corners, but mainly was taking outside lines. It was so smooth and controllable, even in the aggressive map.

The rear shock is super plush. Waiting to break in the AER48 to form an opinion there. If it needs more, I will likely do the JBI diy revalve since I like to wrench on stuff myself.

The rider triangle/cockpit is extremely comfortable for me and I felt at home right away. The wife even noticed how quickly I adjusted to it, having ranted about not liking KTMs in the past lol. As someone that has a horrible habit of holding on with legs/knees/ankles, the shape of the rear plates helps a ton with that and you definitely feel locked in while standing.

Running all stock suspension settings, 105mm sag, 140psi in the fork, the bike drops effortlessly into corners and made me feel like a hero after being so used to the amount of work it takes to ride my CR125 aggressively and be perfect all the time. It feels so light when you're riding it. You really only notice it when lifting it on the stand. Also very little engine braking, even with only 2 hours on it.

Speaking of the CR, I hopped on that after the 2nd break in moto to allow the 350 to cool down, thinking I was going to be ripping on it after getting used to the 350 power.. All I can say is how bummed I am about how crappy that bike feels now compared to the 350. Super rigid, narrow, and just all around uncomfortable. And that has been my go to bike for the last couple years, sprung and valved for me, is in good shape mechanically, and I loved it. Im a hoarder with everything, including bikes, but I think I'm going to sell it 😆

The only dislikes I have were the stock neken bars are super rigid, the ODI Grips are pretty rough, and the grab area above the filter to help lift it onto the stand is kind of in an awkward place. Other than that, I couldn't be happier with the bike. It has exceeded all the expectations I had.

So go buy one! 🍺








nskerb wrote:
Badass write up. You're name is Ryan right? I think we've BS'd on instagram a few times talking about bikes, I was asking about the te150...
Badass write up. You're name is Ryan right? I think we've BS'd on instagram a few times talking about bikes, I was asking about the te150 you had. I've been eyeballing a new 125xc or a 250xc-f, just sold my old 300xc.

Do you still have the 150?

When I pick up a bike we should hit the gif, used to ride out there in highschool damn near every weekend till the snow would pile up.
Yep, that's me. Still have the 150, but the wife wanted a 4 stroke too so we got the 250xc-f for her. Did the break in motos on that, and its a super fun bike. I'm probably going to sell my cr125 and get an Austrian small bore. I also have my eye on the 125xc. Might wait til they make em TBI in 24 though.

I've been itching to get over there, it sounds pretty epic. I just need to finish my yz. Would much rather have that on the gnarlier single track.
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Yep, that's me. Still have the 150, but the wife wanted a 4 stroke too so we got the 250xc-f for her. Did the break in...
Yep, that's me. Still have the 150, but the wife wanted a 4 stroke too so we got the 250xc-f for her. Did the break in motos on that, and its a super fun bike. I'm probably going to sell my cr125 and get an Austrian small bore. I also have my eye on the 125xc. Might wait til they make em TBI in 24 though.

I've been itching to get over there, it sounds pretty epic. I just need to finish my yz. Would much rather have that on the gnarlier single track.
Awesome. Small world lol. How do you think the 250 and 350 would do in some really tight singletrack?

I've got a couple close friends that are always down to ride the gif. Can ride past me on roots like I'm standing still. If you ever want to get out there shoot me a message

I've considered waiting for the TBI 125 to come out. Is your 150 a tpi bike or carb? If you ever feel like unloading it I'd be interested.
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Yep, that's me. Still have the 150, but the wife wanted a 4 stroke too so we got the 250xc-f for her. Did the break in...
Yep, that's me. Still have the 150, but the wife wanted a 4 stroke too so we got the 250xc-f for her. Did the break in motos on that, and its a super fun bike. I'm probably going to sell my cr125 and get an Austrian small bore. I also have my eye on the 125xc. Might wait til they make em TBI in 24 though.

I've been itching to get over there, it sounds pretty epic. I just need to finish my yz. Would much rather have that on the gnarlier single track.
nskerb wrote:
Awesome. Small world lol. How do you think the 250 and 350 would do in some really tight singletrack? I've got a couple close friends that...
Awesome. Small world lol. How do you think the 250 and 350 would do in some really tight singletrack?

I've got a couple close friends that are always down to ride the gif. Can ride past me on roots like I'm standing still. If you ever want to get out there shoot me a message

I've considered waiting for the TBI 125 to come out. Is your 150 a tpi bike or carb? If you ever feel like unloading it I'd be interested.
I have a pretty tight trail loop on my property as well. Nothing crazy but does have some technical parts. I only have one lap on it with the 350, but its definitely not as nimble as a 2 stroke. Plus 4 strokes just tend to get pretty hot riding tight stuff.

The 150 is tpi. Haven't had any issues with it like a lot of people seem to, but the wife also just putts around on it. I almost want to get one of my own. I rode it 30 miles on some pretty gnarly single track in cle elum, bone stock and was shocked at how good it did. Everyone in the group was on 300s and I kept up just fine. The weight loss helps a ton with endurance IMO.
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Yep, that's me. Still have the 150, but the wife wanted a 4 stroke too so we got the 250xc-f for her. Did the break in...
Yep, that's me. Still have the 150, but the wife wanted a 4 stroke too so we got the 250xc-f for her. Did the break in motos on that, and its a super fun bike. I'm probably going to sell my cr125 and get an Austrian small bore. I also have my eye on the 125xc. Might wait til they make em TBI in 24 though.

I've been itching to get over there, it sounds pretty epic. I just need to finish my yz. Would much rather have that on the gnarlier single track.
125xc with tbi comes out in a couple months.
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125xc with tbi comes out in a couple months.
You're right, just checked ktm's site. I was under the impression it was only the sx line, but that's great news, thank you. 👍
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Does anyone make aftermarket plastics for these bikes yet? Im torn between getting a 23 model or buying a runout 22 model just because it will be easier to obtain parts etc. its about a 3k different between the two. Is the 23 worth the extra money?!
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JB479 wrote:
Does anyone make aftermarket plastics for these bikes yet? Im torn between getting a 23 model or buying a runout 22 model just because it will...
Does anyone make aftermarket plastics for these bikes yet? Im torn between getting a 23 model or buying a runout 22 model just because it will be easier to obtain parts etc. its about a 3k different between the two. Is the 23 worth the extra money?!
Aftermarket plastic won’t be available for a while due to patent from ktm. However complete oem kit from ktm isn’t that much more expensive then aftermarket.
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I have a pretty tight trail loop on my property as well. Nothing crazy but does have some technical parts. I only have one lap on...
I have a pretty tight trail loop on my property as well. Nothing crazy but does have some technical parts. I only have one lap on it with the 350, but its definitely not as nimble as a 2 stroke. Plus 4 strokes just tend to get pretty hot riding tight stuff.

The 150 is tpi. Haven't had any issues with it like a lot of people seem to, but the wife also just putts around on it. I almost want to get one of my own. I rode it 30 miles on some pretty gnarly single track in cle elum, bone stock and was shocked at how good it did. Everyone in the group was on 300s and I kept up just fine. The weight loss helps a ton with endurance IMO.
Lol yeah sounds about right, I’ve seen no shortage of 450’s puking coolant out of the cap up there. I’m super keen on trying out the 125 or 150. I’ll let you know when I get one to see if your down for a gif loop👍🏻
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JB479 wrote:
Does anyone make aftermarket plastics for these bikes yet? Im torn between getting a 23 model or buying a runout 22 model just because it will...
Does anyone make aftermarket plastics for these bikes yet? Im torn between getting a 23 model or buying a runout 22 model just because it will be easier to obtain parts etc. its about a 3k different between the two. Is the 23 worth the extra money?!
I have not rode the new model yet, but if you can get a new 22 for 3k less, do it and spend the extra money on a spring conversion kit. Thats a deal and the 22 model is a fantastic bike. I had a 17 SXF 350, then a 19 FC350, and I'm now currently on a 22 FC350 and absolutely love it compared to my old ones. My guess is for my size (I'm 5'6" and 153 lbs) the lowered suspension on the 22 was the ticket with helping me get the bike to settle in choppy situations.

I have considered getting a new 23, but think I will hold off for the 24's in hopes that more parts will become readily available and there is nothing that I don't like about the current 22. Hope this helps
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Figured I would post my very short term review on my 350 after putting about 2 hrs on it at home. Warning: this might turn into...
Figured I would post my very short term review on my 350 after putting about 2 hrs on it at home.

Warning: this might turn into a novel.

I bought an XC-F instead of the SX-F because I ride moto, race hare scrambles, and occasionally trails.

I've been a 2 stroke only guy for a handful of years(02 YZ250, but primarily a 03 CR125) and never meshed well with 4 strokes in the past, especially KTM chassis/ergos (2 or 4 stroke). They just always felt weird to me after being so used to Japanese bikes. A buddy bought a 22.5 RSE FC450 and I rode that and was blown away at how good it felt right away, but it still had that heavy cumbersome feel that accompanies 450s. I really liked the chassis feel, but I felt the 350 would be the perfect middle ground for me. (33yr old vet C/slow B, 6'1", 195 lbs.)

Ordered the 350XCF, along with a 250XCF for the wife. It showed up this last Friday and I brought it home. Greased up the linkage and headset, plate backgrounds, swapped the flexx bars onto it from my YZ and started the break in motos.

My backyard track is about 3/4 mile long, pretty flowy, but has some tight spots with jumps out of corners and enough obstacles to keep you on your toes. I started off in the mellow map and was able to cruise my whole track in 3rd gear, no problem pulling out of corners, but mainly was taking outside lines. It was so smooth and controllable, even in the aggressive map.

The rear shock is super plush. Waiting to break in the AER48 to form an opinion there. If it needs more, I will likely do the JBI diy revalve since I like to wrench on stuff myself.

The rider triangle/cockpit is extremely comfortable for me and I felt at home right away. The wife even noticed how quickly I adjusted to it, having ranted about not liking KTMs in the past lol. As someone that has a horrible habit of holding on with legs/knees/ankles, the shape of the rear plates helps a ton with that and you definitely feel locked in while standing.

Running all stock suspension settings, 105mm sag, 140psi in the fork, the bike drops effortlessly into corners and made me feel like a hero after being so used to the amount of work it takes to ride my CR125 aggressively and be perfect all the time. It feels so light when you're riding it. You really only notice it when lifting it on the stand. Also very little engine braking, even with only 2 hours on it.

Speaking of the CR, I hopped on that after the 2nd break in moto to allow the 350 to cool down, thinking I was going to be ripping on it after getting used to the 350 power.. All I can say is how bummed I am about how crappy that bike feels now compared to the 350. Super rigid, narrow, and just all around uncomfortable. And that has been my go to bike for the last couple years, sprung and valved for me, is in good shape mechanically, and I loved it. Im a hoarder with everything, including bikes, but I think I'm going to sell it 😆

The only dislikes I have were the stock neken bars are super rigid, the ODI Grips are pretty rough, and the grab area above the filter to help lift it onto the stand is kind of in an awkward place. Other than that, I couldn't be happier with the bike. It has exceeded all the expectations I had.

So go buy one! 🍺








Thanks for the write-up, but please tell me you fixed the front brake line routing on the 387 bike before riding...

Breaks my heart seeing brake lines and control wires mixed up! Even more so on awesome brand new scoots.
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Dealer got invoiced for mine today. Should be there in a week. Twisted said they are able to map the vortex for the new bike now.
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8/23/2022 5:39pm
yz763 wrote:
Dealer got invoiced for mine today. Should be there in a week. Twisted said they are able to map the vortex for the new bike now.
Does he already have maps for it?
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yz763 wrote:
Dealer got invoiced for mine today. Should be there in a week. Twisted said they are able to map the vortex for the new bike now.
adams189 wrote:
Does he already have maps for it?
According to the email they sent today, they have maps ready for the 23 350.
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8/24/2022 6:05pm Edited Date/Time 8/24/2022 6:13pm
yz763 wrote:
Dealer got invoiced for mine today. Should be there in a week. Twisted said they are able to map the vortex for the new bike now.
adams189 wrote:
Does he already have maps for it?
yz763 wrote:
According to the email they sent today, they have maps ready for the 23 350.
Jaimie does have them. Only thing with the current Vortex is the handle bar switch will not work with it. TC, QS, launch control all goes out the window. Not the end of the world but that is something I was not aware about until today.
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adams189 wrote:
Does he already have maps for it?
yz763 wrote:
According to the email they sent today, they have maps ready for the 23 350.
adams189 wrote:
Jaimie does have them. Only thing with the current Vortex is the handle bar switch will not work with it. TC, QS, launch control all goes...
Jaimie does have them. Only thing with the current Vortex is the handle bar switch will not work with it. TC, QS, launch control all goes out the window. Not the end of the world but that is something I was not aware about until today.
I wonder if that is because of the extra functions on the new models switch, my map selector and TC still function on my 21 350 with the vortex?
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yz763 wrote:
According to the email they sent today, they have maps ready for the 23 350.
adams189 wrote:
Jaimie does have them. Only thing with the current Vortex is the handle bar switch will not work with it. TC, QS, launch control all goes...
Jaimie does have them. Only thing with the current Vortex is the handle bar switch will not work with it. TC, QS, launch control all goes out the window. Not the end of the world but that is something I was not aware about until today.
bvm111 wrote:
I wonder if that is because of the extra functions on the new models switch, my map selector and TC still function on my 21 350...
I wonder if that is because of the extra functions on the new models switch, my map selector and TC still function on my 21 350 with the vortex?
If your functions still work, I believe it would only be on map 1 selector switch. Even then I would double check. I had the Vortex on my 2020 FC350, per Jamie at Twisted, and my experimenting, those functions don't work once you plug in your Vortex.
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adams189 wrote:
Jaimie does have them. Only thing with the current Vortex is the handle bar switch will not work with it. TC, QS, launch control all goes...
Jaimie does have them. Only thing with the current Vortex is the handle bar switch will not work with it. TC, QS, launch control all goes out the window. Not the end of the world but that is something I was not aware about until today.
bvm111 wrote:
I wonder if that is because of the extra functions on the new models switch, my map selector and TC still function on my 21 350...
I wonder if that is because of the extra functions on the new models switch, my map selector and TC still function on my 21 350 with the vortex?
NeedMoto wrote:
If your functions still work, I believe it would only be on map 1 selector switch. Even then I would double check. I had the Vortex...
If your functions still work, I believe it would only be on map 1 selector switch. Even then I would double check. I had the Vortex on my 2020 FC350, per Jamie at Twisted, and my experimenting, those functions don't work once you plug in your Vortex.
I contacted Vortex yesterday and they are still trying to develop one for the 23 model where the selector switch will work. This was not a problem in 22’ and previous models from my understanding. Not the end of the world because the mapping and ECU is where the advantage is at, in my opinion. Vortex does not have a timeline on when the latest model will be out. Only putting this out so everyone knows if they decide to go that route ahead of the new model being released.
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9/5/2022 5:03pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2025 3:27am
Anyone with some hours on their bikes now have comments on the apparent increased chassis stiffness of the 23 model?

If that is really a thing, can something like that be adjusted at all with different engine hangers, triple clamps and bars? Could that get the chassis feeling more plush like early generations?
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9/5/2022 5:30pm Edited Date/Time 9/5/2022 5:31pm
121x wrote:
Anyone with some hours on their bikes now have comments on the apparent increased chassis stiffness of the 23 model? If that is really a thing...
Anyone with some hours on their bikes now have comments on the apparent increased chassis stiffness of the 23 model?

If that is really a thing, can something like that be adjusted at all with different engine hangers, triple clamps and bars? Could that get the chassis feeling more plush like early generations?
I have no comparison to earlier models. The 23 is my first KTM. Keefer just did a write-up and said going to a 23.5 offset split clamp made a difference with the front end. Ride engineering will have them available later this month. I have almost 6 hours on mine but they say the KTM doesn’t really break-in until around the 8 hour mark. It does have a considerable amount of engine break but I am really happy with mine so far. To my knowledge no one has engine hangers for them yet.
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