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DonM 6/30/2022 12:57pm
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The reading comprehension on this site is unbelievable....I've already set up my account at FLO for $6.99 a month...same as MAV...all you people bitching were all going to cancel MAV when MX was over anyways...
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DonM wrote:
The reading comprehension on this site is unbelievable....I've already set up my account at FLO for $6.99 a month...same as MAV...all you people bitching were all...
The reading comprehension on this site is unbelievable....I've already set up my account at FLO for $6.99 a month...same as MAV...all you people bitching were all going to cancel MAV when MX was over anyways...
Congrats on the purchase. But perhaps it is your reading comprehension that needs work because the main complaint I’m reading is the fact that next year it will be $30 a month.
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uncledaddy69 wrote:
How are people missing the multiple posts here saying there is a coupon code to get it for $6.99 a month?
You obviously haven't tried to use it. "I read it on the internet, it must be true"... Jesus
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DonM wrote:
The reading comprehension on this site is unbelievable....I've already set up my account at FLO for $6.99 a month...same as MAV...all you people bitching were all...
The reading comprehension on this site is unbelievable....I've already set up my account at FLO for $6.99 a month...same as MAV...all you people bitching were all going to cancel MAV when MX was over anyways...
Johnny Ringo wrote:
Congrats on the purchase. But perhaps it is your reading comprehension that needs work because the main complaint I’m reading is the fact that next year...
Congrats on the purchase. But perhaps it is your reading comprehension that needs work because the main complaint I’m reading is the fact that next year it will be $30 a month.
What makes you think they are partnering with FLO again next year? Did they say this is anything more than a temporary patch to get through the end of the series? Hopefully MAV will have their shit together before '23 nationals.
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Johnny Ringo 6/30/2022 1:05pm
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DonM wrote:
The reading comprehension on this site is unbelievable....I've already set up my account at FLO for $6.99 a month...same as MAV...all you people bitching were all...
The reading comprehension on this site is unbelievable....I've already set up my account at FLO for $6.99 a month...same as MAV...all you people bitching were all going to cancel MAV when MX was over anyways...
Johnny Ringo wrote:
Congrats on the purchase. But perhaps it is your reading comprehension that needs work because the main complaint I’m reading is the fact that next year...
Congrats on the purchase. But perhaps it is your reading comprehension that needs work because the main complaint I’m reading is the fact that next year it will be $30 a month.
GrapeApe wrote:
What makes you think they are partnering with FLO again next year? Did they say this is anything more than a temporary patch to get through...
What makes you think they are partnering with FLO again next year? Did they say this is anything more than a temporary patch to get through the end of the series? Hopefully MAV will have their shit together before '23 nationals.
I hope you’re right.
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onewheelwheaties wrote:
From their site: "What about archived races and other MAVTV Plus programming? Will those be on FloRacing? At this time, only new, live MAVTV Plus programming...
From their site:

"What about archived races and other MAVTV Plus programming? Will those be on FloRacing?
At this time, only new, live MAVTV Plus programming will be available on FloRacing. FloSports will communicate if and when MAVTV Plus archived races and other VOD content will be available."

I guess that means no replays of the races thus far.
USA wrote:
Wow. This was my next question and I thank you for doing the research and posting this. It sounds like FloRacing won't even have replays available...
Wow. This was my next question and I thank you for doing the research and posting this.

It sounds like FloRacing won't even have replays available of the remaining races. I think that points towards having replays posted on YouTube at a later time, at least for this year.

What I really don't get is why RacerTV doesn't do the production and streaming instead, it has always worked fine for the amateur events they do.
American Motocross is the official channel of AMA Pro MX and all the motos have been posted there.

I don't see that changing.
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Im off. Mavtvplus canceled and will just wait until there is proper streaming service like MXGP has.
30-40 dollars per month wont make it.
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With all the SX only contracts, the new SX series attracting guys, and now this bullshit. Man it seems like the outdoor pro series is sinking. I sure hope not but it kinda feels like it.
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DonM 6/30/2022 1:19pm
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DonM wrote:
The reading comprehension on this site is unbelievable....I've already set up my account at FLO for $6.99 a month...same as MAV...all you people bitching were all...
The reading comprehension on this site is unbelievable....I've already set up my account at FLO for $6.99 a month...same as MAV...all you people bitching were all going to cancel MAV when MX was over anyways...
Johnny Ringo wrote:
Congrats on the purchase. But perhaps it is your reading comprehension that needs work because the main complaint I’m reading is the fact that next year...
Congrats on the purchase. But perhaps it is your reading comprehension that needs work because the main complaint I’m reading is the fact that next year it will be $30 a month.
And you know for a fact that FLO is going to be the home of MX in 2023 for $30 a month….people are making assumptions and and as you know….
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GrapeApe wrote:
What makes you think they are partnering with FLO again next year? Did they say this is anything more than a temporary patch to get through...
What makes you think they are partnering with FLO again next year? Did they say this is anything more than a temporary patch to get through the end of the series? Hopefully MAV will have their shit together before '23 nationals.
Well....they have been so forthcoming about details so far. Surely we can trust them again. lol

This is a shit-show and everyone knows it.
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Jeffery_Cutty wrote:
This shits real simple. Either pay and watch it, or don’t. It’s not rocket science.
I am prepared to pay to watch it, but i wont pay $30 a month for shit i dont want on top of that.

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Johnny Ringo wrote:
Mav’s performance so far has just been straight up fraudulent. Can’t wait to hear what the “journalists” being paid by them have to say
DonM wrote:
WTF do the journalist have to do with this? they are just as much in the dark as all of us are but yet you expect...
WTF do the journalist have to do with this? they are just as much in the dark as all of us are but yet you expect them to have all the answers for you....just brilliant!
So the journalist who made a career out of“calling it as is” when it comes to riders, safety, Luongo, manufacturers, team personnel, etc should be radio silent on this because they don’t know what’s going on, even though their boss is in charge of the fiasco?

Makes sense
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
Mav’s performance so far has just been straight up fraudulent. Can’t wait to hear what the “journalists” being paid by them have to say
DonM wrote:
WTF do the journalist have to do with this? they are just as much in the dark as all of us are but yet you expect...
WTF do the journalist have to do with this? they are just as much in the dark as all of us are but yet you expect them to have all the answers for you....just brilliant!
zookrider62! wrote:
So the journalist who made a career out of“calling it as is” when it comes to riders, safety, Luongo, manufacturers, team personnel, etc should be radio...
So the journalist who made a career out of“calling it as is” when it comes to riders, safety, Luongo, manufacturers, team personnel, etc should be radio silent on this because they don’t know what’s going on, even though their boss is in charge of the fiasco?

Makes sense
Didn't say that they should stay silent...I said they probably don't know more than you...but after reading everyones responses most people on here can't even get what was said right...
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The press release says all MavTv Plus content is going to Flo Sports. Not just MX. but all content.

Highly doubt MX comes back to MavTv next year. Looks like they have admitted defeat. Not sure if other subscribers of like dirt track racing for example, are moving to Flo Sports. But that sorta sounds like it.
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Johnny Ringo 6/30/2022 1:59pm
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DonM wrote:
WTF do the journalist have to do with this? they are just as much in the dark as all of us are but yet you expect...
WTF do the journalist have to do with this? they are just as much in the dark as all of us are but yet you expect them to have all the answers for you....just brilliant!
zookrider62! wrote:
So the journalist who made a career out of“calling it as is” when it comes to riders, safety, Luongo, manufacturers, team personnel, etc should be radio...
So the journalist who made a career out of“calling it as is” when it comes to riders, safety, Luongo, manufacturers, team personnel, etc should be radio silent on this because they don’t know what’s going on, even though their boss is in charge of the fiasco?

Makes sense
DonM wrote:
Didn't say that they should stay silent...I said they probably don't know more than you...but after reading everyones responses most people on here can't even get...
Didn't say that they should stay silent...I said they probably don't know more than you...but after reading everyones responses most people on here can't even get what was said right...
Steve just explained the situation pretty well in his moto60 show, so he clearly had some info on what happened.
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DonM wrote:
And you know for a fact that FLO is going to be the home of MX in 2023 for $30 a month….people are making assumptions and...
And you know for a fact that FLO is going to be the home of MX in 2023 for $30 a month….people are making assumptions and and as you know….
Didn't DC say MAVTV was the only or best option? If it was, then there's a good chance it'll be on MAVTV again next year, just streamed on FloSports/FloRacing like they're doing for the remaining rounds this year.

Maybe they'll introduce a monthly plan to strictly access MX. Hopefully that's the case because at $30/month a lot of people won't pay that to watch MX racing.

IMO, they need to cater to each individual sport and offer a pass for each of them as well as a subscription for everything that airs on there if someone wants that package.
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
Didn't DC say MAVTV was the only or best option? If it was, then there's a good chance it'll be on MAVTV again next year, just...
Didn't DC say MAVTV was the only or best option? If it was, then there's a good chance it'll be on MAVTV again next year, just streamed on FloSports/FloRacing like they're doing for the remaining rounds this year.

Maybe they'll introduce a monthly plan to strictly access MX. Hopefully that's the case because at $30/month a lot of people won't pay that to watch MX racing.

IMO, they need to cater to each individual sport and offer a pass for each of them as well as a subscription for everything that airs on there if someone wants that package.
They should do exactly that. $5-7 per sport and $20 or so for an all inclusive package. ($30 is still a big ask unless there are some truly high viewer/high dollar sports on there)

Also, those who sign up for a single sport should be able to view ALL content for the first month. It would be a great way to expose folks to their other offerings and rope some premium subs.
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I JUST WANT H (f-ing) D!!!!! GIVE US 2022_1080P @60FPS FOR CHRIST SAKES!!! ENOUGH WITH THE GOD DAMN NOSTALGIA PICTURE QUALITY ALREADY!!!
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zookrider62! wrote:
So the journalist who made a career out of“calling it as is” when it comes to riders, safety, Luongo, manufacturers, team personnel, etc should be radio...
So the journalist who made a career out of“calling it as is” when it comes to riders, safety, Luongo, manufacturers, team personnel, etc should be radio silent on this because they don’t know what’s going on, even though their boss is in charge of the fiasco?

Makes sense
DonM wrote:
Didn't say that they should stay silent...I said they probably don't know more than you...but after reading everyones responses most people on here can't even get...
Didn't say that they should stay silent...I said they probably don't know more than you...but after reading everyones responses most people on here can't even get what was said right...
Johnny Ringo wrote:
Steve just explained the situation pretty well in his moto60 show, so he clearly had some info on what happened.
So did you apologize for blasting him earlier in this thread.....
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DonM 6/30/2022 3:10pm
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DonM wrote:
And you know for a fact that FLO is going to be the home of MX in 2023 for $30 a month….people are making assumptions and...
And you know for a fact that FLO is going to be the home of MX in 2023 for $30 a month….people are making assumptions and and as you know….
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Didn't DC say MAVTV was the only or best option? If it was, then there's a good chance it'll be on MAVTV again next year, just...
Didn't DC say MAVTV was the only or best option? If it was, then there's a good chance it'll be on MAVTV again next year, just streamed on FloSports/FloRacing like they're doing for the remaining rounds this year.

Maybe they'll introduce a monthly plan to strictly access MX. Hopefully that's the case because at $30/month a lot of people won't pay that to watch MX racing.

IMO, they need to cater to each individual sport and offer a pass for each of them as well as a subscription for everything that airs on there if someone wants that package.
That's what he said at the time and getting FLO to do it for the same price as MAV in short order, in my opinion, is a great move as it will solve all the streaming issues that people had with the MAV app. It gives MAV the time to resolve all the issues and hopefully better service for next year....DC and company did not deserve all the hate they got in this thread because people were having a hard time comprehending what was actually being said...end of the day we are getting a better streaming service for the exact same price as what we all were paying for the MAV + app....next year is next year...
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Johnny Ringo 6/30/2022 3:11pm
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DonM wrote:
Didn't say that they should stay silent...I said they probably don't know more than you...but after reading everyones responses most people on here can't even get...
Didn't say that they should stay silent...I said they probably don't know more than you...but after reading everyones responses most people on here can't even get what was said right...
Johnny Ringo wrote:
Steve just explained the situation pretty well in his moto60 show, so he clearly had some info on what happened.
DonM wrote:
So did you apologize for blasting him earlier in this thread.....
No, because he was pretty much defending them, like you would expect a good employee to do.
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DonM wrote:
That's what he said at the time and getting FLO to do it for the same price as MAV in short order, in my opinion, is...
That's what he said at the time and getting FLO to do it for the same price as MAV in short order, in my opinion, is a great move as it will solve all the streaming issues that people had with the MAV app. It gives MAV the time to resolve all the issues and hopefully better service for next year....DC and company did not deserve all the hate they got in this thread because people were having a hard time comprehending what was actually being said...end of the day we are getting a better streaming service for the exact same price as what we all were paying for the MAV + app....next year is next year...
We've yet to see if it's "better" but we are about to find out, aren't we? My MavTV experience was ok except for crap image quality, the abysmally long time it took to post the replays, commercials/features during racing, and some production issues.
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DonM 6/30/2022 3:20pm
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
Steve just explained the situation pretty well in his moto60 show, so he clearly had some info on what happened.
DonM wrote:
So did you apologize for blasting him earlier in this thread.....
Johnny Ringo wrote:
No, because he was pretty much defending them, like you would expect a good employee to do.
I still can't understand the thought process for all the hate...they are doing what everybody wanted and solving the MAV+ streaming issues by moving it to another service that has great reviews and quality streaming, they made it extremely easy to switch over for no additional cost...but yet everybody wants to jump on the mob mentality train and burn them at the stake....The only mistake they made was the explanation of what they were doing was way over the typical vital members comprehension level...
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In a ideal world, we pay and we get qualitative life content available for all fans all over the world. This is how it works with MXGPTV but they had their share of hick ups in the past too, but this year I was gladly surprised by the Isle of Man TT live coverage. The normal price around 22 euro, the races live and on-demand, emails with new time schedules and so on. The first day they had hick-ups and the fans emailed them all the hick-ups they had and the following days everything run smoothly. To me it was the best 22 euro spend for watching live racing. Why? Quick problem solving by listening to the viewers and reasonable price.

The German ADAC series has also live stream coverage and this one is free of charge. Would I pay for German motocross? Probably not, but I'm watching when I've time to this stream because it's free and assuming I'm not the only one like this, the ADAC Masters are getting more eyes on their riders, partners and sponsors.

Now comes the part where I can't believe that Davey Coombs can't put something like previous together, he probably misjudged MAVTV as partner and took them as partner because of their TV network, knowing that television is still a big part of the audience. I'm a firm believer that the AMA Nationals on Twitch & Youtube could be streamed (with commercial breaks) for free and for us diehards on a other platform, I'm not going to get too technical but it seems that DaCast and Zype are solid. About TV-rights the biggest question is: Is there a place where AMA Motocross could fill 2 hours: With a five to seven minute recap from moto1 and going to moto2 for both 250 and 450 makes that you can draw a different audience then on the streams. Thinking outside of the box with Rev'n or Stadium TV.

Just to rest my case: It can't be, and is a little disgrace that it's easier to watch the Indian Supercross championship than the American motocross championship. Also the 150 euro for the Pro Pass from Flo Racing is a little high knowing that for the F1 TV Pro Pass what includes F1, F2, F3 en Porsche Supercup, you pay 65 euro.
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-MAVERICK- 6/30/2022 3:25pm
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DonM wrote:
And you know for a fact that FLO is going to be the home of MX in 2023 for $30 a month….people are making assumptions and...
And you know for a fact that FLO is going to be the home of MX in 2023 for $30 a month….people are making assumptions and and as you know….
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Didn't DC say MAVTV was the only or best option? If it was, then there's a good chance it'll be on MAVTV again next year, just...
Didn't DC say MAVTV was the only or best option? If it was, then there's a good chance it'll be on MAVTV again next year, just streamed on FloSports/FloRacing like they're doing for the remaining rounds this year.

Maybe they'll introduce a monthly plan to strictly access MX. Hopefully that's the case because at $30/month a lot of people won't pay that to watch MX racing.

IMO, they need to cater to each individual sport and offer a pass for each of them as well as a subscription for everything that airs on there if someone wants that package.
DonM wrote:
That's what he said at the time and getting FLO to do it for the same price as MAV in short order, in my opinion, is...
That's what he said at the time and getting FLO to do it for the same price as MAV in short order, in my opinion, is a great move as it will solve all the streaming issues that people had with the MAV app. It gives MAV the time to resolve all the issues and hopefully better service for next year....DC and company did not deserve all the hate they got in this thread because people were having a hard time comprehending what was actually being said...end of the day we are getting a better streaming service for the exact same price as what we all were paying for the MAV + app....next year is next year...
From what I gather, the MAVTV app has sucked for years. I personally don't see them resolving their issues unless they build a brand new app.

The cost to do that might not be worth it, so streaming all their content through the FloRacing platform could be a permanent solution.

I think some people are expecting a bump in the quality of the broadcast with this move, but that's the not case.

Better platform, same broadcast.
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Johnny Ringo 6/30/2022 3:27pm
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DonM wrote:
So did you apologize for blasting him earlier in this thread.....
Johnny Ringo wrote:
No, because he was pretty much defending them, like you would expect a good employee to do.
DonM wrote:
I still can't understand the thought process for all the hate...they are doing what everybody wanted and solving the MAV+ streaming issues by moving it to...
I still can't understand the thought process for all the hate...they are doing what everybody wanted and solving the MAV+ streaming issues by moving it to another service that has great reviews and quality streaming, they made it extremely easy to switch over for no additional cost...but yet everybody wants to jump on the mob mentality train and burn them at the stake....The only mistake they made was the explanation of what they were doing was way over the typical vital members comprehension level...
Does the M in DonM stand for MavTV or something?
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
No, because he was pretty much defending them, like you would expect a good employee to do.
DonM wrote:
I still can't understand the thought process for all the hate...they are doing what everybody wanted and solving the MAV+ streaming issues by moving it to...
I still can't understand the thought process for all the hate...they are doing what everybody wanted and solving the MAV+ streaming issues by moving it to another service that has great reviews and quality streaming, they made it extremely easy to switch over for no additional cost...but yet everybody wants to jump on the mob mentality train and burn them at the stake....The only mistake they made was the explanation of what they were doing was way over the typical vital members comprehension level...
Johnny Ringo wrote:
Does the M in DonM stand for MavTV or something?
Well bless your heart....I hope you have an awesome rest of your day....
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DonM 6/30/2022 3:32pm
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Didn't DC say MAVTV was the only or best option? If it was, then there's a good chance it'll be on MAVTV again next year, just...
Didn't DC say MAVTV was the only or best option? If it was, then there's a good chance it'll be on MAVTV again next year, just streamed on FloSports/FloRacing like they're doing for the remaining rounds this year.

Maybe they'll introduce a monthly plan to strictly access MX. Hopefully that's the case because at $30/month a lot of people won't pay that to watch MX racing.

IMO, they need to cater to each individual sport and offer a pass for each of them as well as a subscription for everything that airs on there if someone wants that package.
DonM wrote:
That's what he said at the time and getting FLO to do it for the same price as MAV in short order, in my opinion, is...
That's what he said at the time and getting FLO to do it for the same price as MAV in short order, in my opinion, is a great move as it will solve all the streaming issues that people had with the MAV app. It gives MAV the time to resolve all the issues and hopefully better service for next year....DC and company did not deserve all the hate they got in this thread because people were having a hard time comprehending what was actually being said...end of the day we are getting a better streaming service for the exact same price as what we all were paying for the MAV + app....next year is next year...
-MAVERICK- wrote:
From what I gather, the MAVTV app has sucked for years. I personally don't see them resolving their issues unless they build a brand new app...
From what I gather, the MAVTV app has sucked for years. I personally don't see them resolving their issues unless they build a brand new app.

The cost to do that might not be worth it, so streaming all their content through the FloRacing platform could be a permanent solution.

I think some people are expecting a bump in the quality of the broadcast with this move, but that's the not case.

Better platform, same broadcast.
Yep been the same broadcast team and equipment for years so that quality will not change....my understanding is the the MAV+ app was fairly new and not the same as the previous MAV app...time will tell on whether they get this sorted out before next year.
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dboivin 6/30/2022 3:37pm
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i'm out. i'll watch youtube highlights i guess. severely dissappointed. i woulda probably bought into a full season back in march or something....but i ain't doing it now...specially with how volatile the covereage has been.

seems like soo 500 snowmobile race was flo racing last season and was ridiculous priced so i opted out doesn't bring me good vibes for mx thats for sure.
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