Barcia and his dirty riding. AMA will do nothing!

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Crush 3/19/2022 10:29pm
3/19/2022 10:29pm
Barcia is frustrating as fuck but you can't be upset at that pass, it's supercross... and on Anderson no less, who in Karma terms probably has a good few more coming to him.
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CPR 3/19/2022 10:30pm
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kpiper wrote:
The cause of Anderson going down tonight was Anderson. Pretty simple. Not saying Barcia's move was all that great but he didn't take Jason down. As...
The cause of Anderson going down tonight was Anderson. Pretty simple.

Not saying Barcia's move was all that great but he didn't take Jason down.

As Eli said though, "Have you ever passed anyone clean???" Truth.
“What, this year?” 😂
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seth505 3/19/2022 10:32pm
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Leave Us To wrote:
Good point and thanks for bringing that up. It is key where the motorcycles are in the corner and contact is made. In tonight's case if...
Good point and thanks for bringing that up. It is key where the motorcycles are in the corner and contact is made. In tonight's case if not for Anderson's motorcycle, Bam Bam's trajectory had him not making the corner but going off the track.
Um, what?




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NorCalRedRyder 3/19/2022 10:51pm
3/19/2022 10:51pm
Gotta be prett frustrating for the entire field when there is a blue yz450f with a #3 Red plate making the rest of the riders look like kids on pw 50s. Actually pretty comical.
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BJR74 3/19/2022 10:57pm
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Yep, Tomac, doesn’t need to do any block pass or play dirty because he is simply faster.

Best race ethics and deserves the podium topstep.

The rest all play games, because they are all similar speed and need too to get what Tomac leaves behind.
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vanillaice782 3/19/2022 11:20pm
3/19/2022 11:20pm
NorCalRedRyder wrote:
Gotta be prett frustrating for the entire field when there is a blue yz450f with a #3 Red plate making the rest of the riders look...
Gotta be prett frustrating for the entire field when there is a blue yz450f with a #3 Red plate making the rest of the riders look like kids on pw 50s. Actually pretty comical.
Yeah man.
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NorCalRedRyder 3/19/2022 11:39pm
3/19/2022 11:39pm
NorCalRedRyder wrote:
Gotta be prett frustrating for the entire field when there is a blue yz450f with a #3 Red plate making the rest of the riders look...
Gotta be prett frustrating for the entire field when there is a blue yz450f with a #3 Red plate making the rest of the riders look like kids on pw 50s. Actually pretty comical.
vanillaice782 wrote:
Yeah man. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/03/19/539066/s1200_20220206_081959.jpg[/img]
Yeah man.
Sweet ride buddy!
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Shred 3/20/2022 12:17am
3/20/2022 12:17am Edited Date/Time 3/20/2022 12:22am
There is a key difference in when Jason has made a questionable pass. He is actually stupid in that most, if not all, his “cheap” passes this year he was the faster rider. He could have made the passes clean with a tiny bit of patience. All he accomplished was making enemies. Bambam’s are cheap as hell but he is usually slower then the person he is taking out.. He gets passed and gives everything he has to get close enough to take out the rider before he gets away.....so if you are okay with it then he is smarter since it usually improves his position. Jason has ruined his legit chance at a title. At times he has been faster then Eli....but never as smart. I personally don’t like how bambam rides and it is worse for the sport imo. Usually Eli is ahead and bambam, Mookie in Daytona, is helping him gap the field....making this title a snooze from here on out. I don’t remember a year that so many riders could win a race and it wouldn’t surprise me....yet it is a snooze of a championship now because riders have been dumb shits behind him. Hopefully we have some good races because the championship is decided. btw...the ama is a fucking joke.
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Shred 3/20/2022 12:36am
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scott_nz wrote:
Looks like he got a 3 point penalty
https://results.amasupercross.com/xml/SX/events/S2255/S1F1POINTS.pdf

and Eli has over a two race lead....snooze. Nice job rest of the field....most competitive rider group ever and a snooze of a championship now.... I guess qualifying only shows speed...not I.Q. because the field seems to be sporting single digit intelligence and Eli is the genius.
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Magoofan 3/20/2022 12:48am
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It's okay when Anderson does it....but Barcia is a "scumbag". lol I love the "head explody" going on in here.

Good to see Ando on the ground with a taste of his own medicine.

Definitely not one of Barcias most egregious moves.




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Thisusernameisavailable 3/20/2022 1:00am
3/20/2022 1:00am
BigBoreFan58 wrote:
That was all on Anderson, Anderson turned down too early, Drove right into BamBam. BamBam is lucky he stayed up.
KurtJ99 wrote:
"turned down early" - I seem to remember another incident with Anderson where everyone blamed Mookie for turning down early. Not sure if you meant that...
"turned down early" - I seem to remember another incident with Anderson where everyone blamed Mookie for turning down early. Not sure if you meant that irony but that's what I get out of it.
The 'Turned down early' argument..

FFS guys, the race track isn't divided in to lanes which riders have to stay in! Turning down early does not exist!
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Thisusernameisavailable 3/20/2022 1:14am
3/20/2022 1:14am
What was that AMA rule that says "A rider must always attempt to succeed" ?

In these photos, it doesn't look like Barcia is 'attempting to succeed round the corner". It looks like he intends to park his bike in the way of Jason. If Barcia was 'attempting to succeed' his bike would be pointing in the direction of the racing line.





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Ace Dudemeister 3/20/2022 1:25am
3/20/2022 1:25am
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Barcia is a dirty rider. Why the other riders and AMA tolerate him makes no sense. Talented rider with no morals or any sense of fairness...
Barcia is a dirty rider. Why the other riders and AMA tolerate him makes no sense. Talented rider with no morals or any sense of fairness. I think the correct term is (ADMIN Note: personal attacks are frowned upon).
Life isn’t fair, no aspect of it.

Fairness only applies to children.

Competition isn’t equality of outcomes.
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Ace Dudemeister 3/20/2022 1:30am
3/20/2022 1:30am
Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
What was that AMA rule that says "A rider must always attempt to succeed" ? In these photos, it doesn't look like Barcia is 'attempting to...
What was that AMA rule that says "A rider must always attempt to succeed" ?

In these photos, it doesn't look like Barcia is 'attempting to succeed round the corner". It looks like he intends to park his bike in the way of Jason. If Barcia was 'attempting to succeed' his bike would be pointing in the direction of the racing line.





He is navigating the corner dealing with mass, friction, and balance.

In the shot you provided, he controlled this, he is in front of Anderson and his bike is pointed down the track.

It comes down to what I am always telling my kids, keep your head up.
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gregyou 3/20/2022 1:31am
3/20/2022 1:31am
Did barcia get docked 3 points?
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Thisusernameisavailable 3/20/2022 1:41am
3/20/2022 1:41am
Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
What was that AMA rule that says "A rider must always attempt to succeed" ? In these photos, it doesn't look like Barcia is 'attempting to...
What was that AMA rule that says "A rider must always attempt to succeed" ?

In these photos, it doesn't look like Barcia is 'attempting to succeed round the corner". It looks like he intends to park his bike in the way of Jason. If Barcia was 'attempting to succeed' his bike would be pointing in the direction of the racing line.





Ace Dudemeister wrote:
He is navigating the corner dealing with mass, friction, and balance. In the shot you provided, he controlled this, he is in front of Anderson and...
He is navigating the corner dealing with mass, friction, and balance.

In the shot you provided, he controlled this, he is in front of Anderson and his bike is pointed down the track.

It comes down to what I am always telling my kids, keep your head up.
If you asked 100 riders to do 20 laps to build picture of what is considered 'normal', not one of them would choose the line Barcia has chosen there.

Barcia knew what he was doing to cut Jason off.

You say Jason could've kept his head up to see in advance- lets say he done that and diverted LEFT- Barcia would've simply also stayed on the same trajectory and the same thing would've happened. Jason goes left more, Justin goes left more, Jason goes left more, Justin goes left more- It was a no win situation for Jason with Barcia in that 'park him' mindset.
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Ace Dudemeister 3/20/2022 1:58am
3/20/2022 1:58am
Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
What was that AMA rule that says "A rider must always attempt to succeed" ? In these photos, it doesn't look like Barcia is 'attempting to...
What was that AMA rule that says "A rider must always attempt to succeed" ?

In these photos, it doesn't look like Barcia is 'attempting to succeed round the corner". It looks like he intends to park his bike in the way of Jason. If Barcia was 'attempting to succeed' his bike would be pointing in the direction of the racing line.





Ace Dudemeister wrote:
He is navigating the corner dealing with mass, friction, and balance. In the shot you provided, he controlled this, he is in front of Anderson and...
He is navigating the corner dealing with mass, friction, and balance.

In the shot you provided, he controlled this, he is in front of Anderson and his bike is pointed down the track.

It comes down to what I am always telling my kids, keep your head up.
Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
If you asked 100 riders to do 20 laps to build picture of what is considered 'normal', not one of them would choose the line Barcia...
If you asked 100 riders to do 20 laps to build picture of what is considered 'normal', not one of them would choose the line Barcia has chosen there.

Barcia knew what he was doing to cut Jason off.

You say Jason could've kept his head up to see in advance- lets say he done that and diverted LEFT- Barcia would've simply also stayed on the same trajectory and the same thing would've happened. Jason goes left more, Justin goes left more, Jason goes left more, Justin goes left more- It was a no win situation for Jason with Barcia in that 'park him' mindset.
Barcia had great inertia and had to overcome that. He did that, as I described, and probably didn’t plan on contact but he did put himself in a position in which something would have to give, him or Anderson.

Because Barcia’s bike was pointing down the track, in preparation now for acceleration, he was able to absorb the impact.

If Anderson’s head had been up, he would have defended himself.
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TurdFerguson 3/20/2022 3:07am
3/20/2022 3:07am
caviar&cigarettes338 wrote:
Nothing wrong with what he did . You must not be a fan from the early 2000s RC Stewart and reed were riding like that all...
Nothing wrong with what he did . You must not be a fan from the early 2000s RC Stewart and reed were riding like that all the time . Nothing wrong with block passing or parking someone for the lead.
Block pass? I hope you are kidding. He literally cut the corner and put is bike directly in front of Anderson already exiting the corner.
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Ace Dudemeister 3/20/2022 3:19am
3/20/2022 3:19am
caviar&cigarettes338 wrote:
Nothing wrong with what he did . You must not be a fan from the early 2000s RC Stewart and reed were riding like that all...
Nothing wrong with what he did . You must not be a fan from the early 2000s RC Stewart and reed were riding like that all the time . Nothing wrong with block passing or parking someone for the lead.
TurdFerguson wrote:
Block pass? I hope you are kidding. He literally cut the corner and put is bike directly in front of Anderson already exiting the corner.
He didn’t cut anything, the 250s were running that line. Are you saying they all cut the course?

What you described is a block pass. Barcia was in front of Anderson, Barcia had line choice. Anderson ran into the back of Barcia.
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creature654 3/20/2022 3:36am
3/20/2022 3:36am
I wish Anderson would go up to him in the pits, act like it’s all good, go for the hand shake, then grab that fuckin finger and twistttttt!
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VanDan 3/20/2022 3:54am
3/20/2022 3:54am
What goes around comes around. Karma for Anderson!
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Prntscrn 3/20/2022 4:25am
3/20/2022 4:25am
Barcia and Anderson can do that to eachother all night long, I don't care. They both deserves it.
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madmaxperformance 3/20/2022 4:32am
3/20/2022 4:32am
I think it was a little aggressive by Barcia, yes. But Anderson owns some of it too. Face looking down at the track right in front of him. Look at the pics. He should have seen that from a mile away. Maybe he needs to throttle back on the lettuce a little. lol.

Seriously though. People are forgetting when Eli was doing stupid stuff and throwing titles away. Pant buckles, simple wash outs, brake issues and pulling off. Now he seems to have the grit and maturity.

It sure shows how good Dungey and Villopoto were.

I’m disappointed that we have a run away leader but I’m happy for Tomac. I’m surprised Barcia was docked three points really. He has a history of this crap I guess is why.
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fellow addict 3/20/2022 6:33am
3/20/2022 6:33am
Jason, look up! A rider has cut across in another one of those cheezy little hair pin 180 SX corners where the inside course marker is way too far inside, like they always do. Don’t forget man, you’re racing SX where it’s a game of take the line away. Now lets count how many times this cut off move was made and was avoided by anticipating it chopping the throttle and swerving inside or outside of the rider and blowing right back by him. Very surprised Jason was that asleep in this situation, especially with his quick witted switch it up re-passes of Tomac as of late.
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fellow addict 3/20/2022 6:37am
3/20/2022 6:37am
Yo Jason, have you seen him yet?
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RaceFace58 3/20/2022 6:44am
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Leave Us To wrote:
If your motorcycle isn't pointed in the direction the track is going then it's a cheap shot IMO. Only time this isn't a cheap shot is...
If your motorcycle isn't pointed in the direction the track is going then it's a cheap shot IMO. Only time this isn't a cheap shot is the last turn in the LCQ and shouldn't be going down in the Main at the front of the 450 SX class.
I agree. As I said before this always happens when it’s someone just passed Barcia who he couldn’t stay in front of by going faster than the person. Surprised he doesn’t have shit like smoke screen/oil slick deployment on his bike. He’s every bit as bad as Friese just faster.
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RaceFace58 3/20/2022 6:48am
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Prntscrn wrote:
Barcia and Anderson can do that to eachother all night long, I don't care. They both deserves it.
That’s true too! But Eli knew he had to sprint to gap Barcia and you could see if Eli was one tick slower into an out of the next two corners, Barcia had him in his torpedo crosshairs. He was trying to line it up but Eli was just too quick.
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