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swordfish 2/8/2022 3:50am
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stone881 wrote:
Hmm, how about forced shot to someones 5 year old kid that makes them sterile, gives them aids, myodcarditis, or cancer. You can't take some honking...
Hmm, how about forced shot to someones 5 year old kid that makes them sterile, gives them aids, myodcarditis, or cancer. You can't take some honking, put on some ear protection snowflake.
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AIDS? Sterility? Holy fuck buddy what kool aid have you been drinking? There are rare cases of myocarditis associated with the vaccine yes, but the risk...
AIDS? Sterility? Holy fuck buddy what kool aid have you been drinking?

There are rare cases of myocarditis associated with the vaccine yes, but the risk of it is much higher in COVID infections than vaccinations. The other stuff is complete bullshit.
It’s actually not and new data has come out contradicting it. The Aussie journalist that was on Rogan has been discredited by the new info. It was manipulated to make it look like there was a higher risk from Covid. Just like everything else, the truth is coming out about the supposed data. Covid deaths being a big example. The whole Covid narrative is crumbling as the real truth is slowly exposed.
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swordfish 2/8/2022 3:55am
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Bro....what I'm saying here is , that most every moto person I have ever met , thinks a lot like me ( I consider myself down...
Bro....what I'm saying here is , that most every moto person I have ever met , thinks a lot like me ( I consider myself down the middle of the road normal , and some would disagree ). But most of us tend to want to live our lives free from someone else telling us what we should do , where to go , or what " Vax " we should put in our bodies.

I don't care for the thumbs up / down thing either......my point was , right here , right now , on this subject , you are in the vast minority in your opinion. People protest and say " screw that , I don't want the shot " , and you come on here with a bleeding heart saying " people's ears hurt from the loud horns " ? Are you freakin' serious?

Victim hood on your side of the isle is common , but dang man , you just took it to a whole new level. Ever hear of a gawd damn ear plug? Is that the worst inconvenience ever? Try living in Portland dude! Ear plugs would be the least of your worries!
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You really don’t get it man. You don’t live in Canada. We don’t care at all what Portland is like. As for the freedom thing, you...
You really don’t get it man. You don’t live in Canada. We don’t care at all what Portland is like.

As for the freedom thing, you can stamp freedom on anything you want as a mantra. Why wear seat belts? Why do we need signs to tell us when to stop our cars? Why can’t we pull on and off the race track at any point at any time? Why do we segregate C class riders from Pros? I thought we were free!

The truth is that with freedom comes responsibility, responsibility to each other. Until hospitals are able to go back to business as usual, public health measures like vaccine cards and mask mandates will continue. There’s a good reason the death rate for COVID is so much lower in Canada Vs in the States, we took it seriously here.

The vaccine doesn’t stop transmission, that’s clear by now, the masks don’t either unless they’re N95, so we can do away with them and I hope we do. The reason we need people to get vaccinated is to lower the toll on hospitals, I’ve got family who are frontline healthcare workers, my family doctor works in the COVID unit. I’ve heard their stories first hand. We need to take the strain off of them by whatever means we can.

I’ll happily stand with frontline healthcare workers who have continued to work to save lives before I stand with a bunch of “truckers” throwing a tantrum by taking over a city. Canada is a very different place than the US, until you understand that your comments on the matter don’t hold any sway at all.
Hospitals in Canada have been on the edge of failure for many years. It doesn’t take much to put a hospital in Defcon 5. Take up 5 extra beds and most are critical. Pre Covid Canadian hospitals were already maxed out. We have had 2 years to pump money into Canadian healthcare to fix the problem but instead we just blame unvaccinated without any mention of the unhealthy patients with preventable underlying health conditions. They are the one taking up critical beds and clogging ICU’s.
We have Covid positive health care workers on the job with the virus while healthy unvaxxed nurses are sitting at home jobless. My spouse was locked in her room at the hospital 2 weeks ago with no movement or contact allowed because she was on a floor where Covid positive nurses were working.
You’re fucking clueless, keep talking shit while we sit here and pick you apart.
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I was sure that the Trudeau government would pick up that bone that Theresa Tam (our Chief Public Health Officer) put out there late last week, and use it as a way to end this thing. She gave them a potential out, saying we need to get back to some normalcy including border measures and policies. Really also surprised the opposition parties didn't pick up on that too & start hounding the Libs on it. I suppose that could still happen yet - but I thought for sure when I heard it that would be the beginning of the end of this mess.
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jeffro503 wrote:
Bro....what I'm saying here is , that most every moto person I have ever met , thinks a lot like me ( I consider myself down...
Bro....what I'm saying here is , that most every moto person I have ever met , thinks a lot like me ( I consider myself down the middle of the road normal , and some would disagree ). But most of us tend to want to live our lives free from someone else telling us what we should do , where to go , or what " Vax " we should put in our bodies.

I don't care for the thumbs up / down thing either......my point was , right here , right now , on this subject , you are in the vast minority in your opinion. People protest and say " screw that , I don't want the shot " , and you come on here with a bleeding heart saying " people's ears hurt from the loud horns " ? Are you freakin' serious?

Victim hood on your side of the isle is common , but dang man , you just took it to a whole new level. Ever hear of a gawd damn ear plug? Is that the worst inconvenience ever? Try living in Portland dude! Ear plugs would be the least of your worries!
bh84 wrote:
You really don’t get it man. You don’t live in Canada. We don’t care at all what Portland is like. As for the freedom thing, you...
You really don’t get it man. You don’t live in Canada. We don’t care at all what Portland is like.

As for the freedom thing, you can stamp freedom on anything you want as a mantra. Why wear seat belts? Why do we need signs to tell us when to stop our cars? Why can’t we pull on and off the race track at any point at any time? Why do we segregate C class riders from Pros? I thought we were free!

The truth is that with freedom comes responsibility, responsibility to each other. Until hospitals are able to go back to business as usual, public health measures like vaccine cards and mask mandates will continue. There’s a good reason the death rate for COVID is so much lower in Canada Vs in the States, we took it seriously here.

The vaccine doesn’t stop transmission, that’s clear by now, the masks don’t either unless they’re N95, so we can do away with them and I hope we do. The reason we need people to get vaccinated is to lower the toll on hospitals, I’ve got family who are frontline healthcare workers, my family doctor works in the COVID unit. I’ve heard their stories first hand. We need to take the strain off of them by whatever means we can.

I’ll happily stand with frontline healthcare workers who have continued to work to save lives before I stand with a bunch of “truckers” throwing a tantrum by taking over a city. Canada is a very different place than the US, until you understand that your comments on the matter don’t hold any sway at all.
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Hospitals in Canada have been on the edge of failure for many years. It doesn’t take much to put a hospital in Defcon 5. Take up...
Hospitals in Canada have been on the edge of failure for many years. It doesn’t take much to put a hospital in Defcon 5. Take up 5 extra beds and most are critical. Pre Covid Canadian hospitals were already maxed out. We have had 2 years to pump money into Canadian healthcare to fix the problem but instead we just blame unvaccinated without any mention of the unhealthy patients with preventable underlying health conditions. They are the one taking up critical beds and clogging ICU’s.
We have Covid positive health care workers on the job with the virus while healthy unvaxxed nurses are sitting at home jobless. My spouse was locked in her room at the hospital 2 weeks ago with no movement or contact allowed because she was on a floor where Covid positive nurses were working.
You’re fucking clueless, keep talking shit while we sit here and pick you apart.
Also adding to the hospital issue (at least locally to me) are all the idiotic hypochondriacs who run straight to the ER just because they tested positive, with minimal or no symptoms. My wife waited over 9 hours on a weekday afternoon at a local ER with a legitimate health issue due to these morons.

If crap like this is going to continue, there needs to be an express lane to discharge for these people. Instead, they each take up a significant amount of time and resources only to be told “go home, come back if (blank) symptoms worsen.”
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dmm698 2/8/2022 6:09am
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Here in lies the problem with the media, DIrect quote from an article :


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"This is a story of a country that got through this pandemic by being united and a few people shouting and waving swastikas does not define who Canadians are," he said.

Trudeau and his family left Ottawa to an undisclosed location as the convoy started rolling into the city due to security concerns. The protests last week included some Confederate and Nazi flags.

Canadians have largely followed government's health measures and nearly 79% of the eligible population has taken two doses of the vaccine. But recent polls have shown frustrations against restrictions are growing.

"The occupation has turned into an aggressive and hateful occupation of our neighbourhoods," he wrote. "People are living in fear and are terrified." He called the honking "tantamount to psychological warfare."

"


Who cares if people have had 2 doses, its proven to do nothing , you need your second , third, fourth booster for it to even be relevant. Also, Trudeau paints the picture that the convoy is a bunch of racist pigs from his comment. This is what most people will read and formulate an opinion on.
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Aparently the fuel ban has been lifted based on a judge ruling.

Ro's livestream:
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vanillaice782 2/8/2022 6:51am
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PNWMXer wrote:
Also adding to the hospital issue (at least locally to me) are all the idiotic hypochondriacs who run straight to the ER just because they tested...
Also adding to the hospital issue (at least locally to me) are all the idiotic hypochondriacs who run straight to the ER just because they tested positive, with minimal or no symptoms. My wife waited over 9 hours on a weekday afternoon at a local ER with a legitimate health issue due to these morons.

If crap like this is going to continue, there needs to be an express lane to discharge for these people. Instead, they each take up a significant amount of time and resources only to be told “go home, come back if (blank) symptoms worsen.”
The other really fun thing to think about with those worried-well covid patients, is that they're sitting in a waiting room with people that are older, that might not have had covid. But now those older people, are exposed and could end up with it because some idiot 20 year old came in because they might have been exposed, or they can't smell anymore.
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tuggy450 2/8/2022 7:25am
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Not really sure how a Canada claims it's healthcare system is overwhelmed, or can justify mandates or emergency measures.
The data is on just about any googled website. 92 deaths per 100,000 people. I mean really less than 1 in a 1000. Most of those people had so many comorbidities they can barely survive a good haircut.


It is long past time to Kick Covid in the nuts and go home. What better than an alleged Bat virus to make people Bat Sheet crazy
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PNWMXer wrote:
Also adding to the hospital issue (at least locally to me) are all the idiotic hypochondriacs who run straight to the ER just because they tested...
Also adding to the hospital issue (at least locally to me) are all the idiotic hypochondriacs who run straight to the ER just because they tested positive, with minimal or no symptoms. My wife waited over 9 hours on a weekday afternoon at a local ER with a legitimate health issue due to these morons.

If crap like this is going to continue, there needs to be an express lane to discharge for these people. Instead, they each take up a significant amount of time and resources only to be told “go home, come back if (blank) symptoms worsen.”
vanillaice782 wrote:
The other really fun thing to think about with those worried-well covid patients, is that they're sitting in a waiting room with people that are older...
The other really fun thing to think about with those worried-well covid patients, is that they're sitting in a waiting room with people that are older, that might not have had covid. But now those older people, are exposed and could end up with it because some idiot 20 year old came in because they might have been exposed, or they can't smell anymore.
Great point.
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ns503 2/8/2022 9:27am
2/8/2022 9:27am Edited Date/Time 2/8/2022 9:30am
Another possible out for the Feds. Saskatchewan just announcing all vax proof requirements will go away starting Sunday. Should be a snowball effect starting. But how long will they stay stubborn about it?

Edit: also, one of Justin's MPs has also come out speaking against his own party's actions on this.
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Sunnyside 2/8/2022 9:42am
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ns503 wrote:
Another possible out for the Feds. Saskatchewan just announcing all vax proof requirements will go away starting Sunday. Should be a snowball effect starting. But how...
Another possible out for the Feds. Saskatchewan just announcing all vax proof requirements will go away starting Sunday. Should be a snowball effect starting. But how long will they stay stubborn about it?

Edit: also, one of Justin's MPs has also come out speaking against his own party's actions on this.
I live in Saskatchewan and I fail to see how dropping regulations can possibly improve our lives. Last week people were waiting up to 3 days in the ER to get a hospital bed at any major city hospital. My family has several procedures delayed or on waiting lists because of this bottleneck over the last year. Open the flood gates and many people will die and not just with covid.
I voted for Moe (Saskatchewan premier) but am big time disappointed is this sudden about face and support of this protest. Just be a productive member of society, stop whining about taking a test, and we'll get back to normal after beefing up the medical system.
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ns503 wrote:
Another possible out for the Feds. Saskatchewan just announcing all vax proof requirements will go away starting Sunday. Should be a snowball effect starting. But how...
Another possible out for the Feds. Saskatchewan just announcing all vax proof requirements will go away starting Sunday. Should be a snowball effect starting. But how long will they stay stubborn about it?

Edit: also, one of Justin's MPs has also come out speaking against his own party's actions on this.
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I live in Saskatchewan and I fail to see how dropping regulations can possibly improve our lives. Last week people were waiting up to 3 days...
I live in Saskatchewan and I fail to see how dropping regulations can possibly improve our lives. Last week people were waiting up to 3 days in the ER to get a hospital bed at any major city hospital. My family has several procedures delayed or on waiting lists because of this bottleneck over the last year. Open the flood gates and many people will die and not just with covid.
I voted for Moe (Saskatchewan premier) but am big time disappointed is this sudden about face and support of this protest. Just be a productive member of society, stop whining about taking a test, and we'll get back to normal after beefing up the medical system.
Who’s whining at taking a test? I take at least 2 a week for work.
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Sunnyside 2/8/2022 10:20am
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ns503 wrote:
Another possible out for the Feds. Saskatchewan just announcing all vax proof requirements will go away starting Sunday. Should be a snowball effect starting. But how...
Another possible out for the Feds. Saskatchewan just announcing all vax proof requirements will go away starting Sunday. Should be a snowball effect starting. But how long will they stay stubborn about it?

Edit: also, one of Justin's MPs has also come out speaking against his own party's actions on this.
Sunnyside wrote:
I live in Saskatchewan and I fail to see how dropping regulations can possibly improve our lives. Last week people were waiting up to 3 days...
I live in Saskatchewan and I fail to see how dropping regulations can possibly improve our lives. Last week people were waiting up to 3 days in the ER to get a hospital bed at any major city hospital. My family has several procedures delayed or on waiting lists because of this bottleneck over the last year. Open the flood gates and many people will die and not just with covid.
I voted for Moe (Saskatchewan premier) but am big time disappointed is this sudden about face and support of this protest. Just be a productive member of society, stop whining about taking a test, and we'll get back to normal after beefing up the medical system.
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Who’s whining at taking a test? I take at least 2 a week for work.
I'm refering to the common mandates in my area. Test result or vaccine verification anywhere government regulated.
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dmm698 2/8/2022 10:27am
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Sunnyside wrote:
I live in Saskatchewan and I fail to see how dropping regulations can possibly improve our lives. Last week people were waiting up to 3 days...
I live in Saskatchewan and I fail to see how dropping regulations can possibly improve our lives. Last week people were waiting up to 3 days in the ER to get a hospital bed at any major city hospital. My family has several procedures delayed or on waiting lists because of this bottleneck over the last year. Open the flood gates and many people will die and not just with covid.
I voted for Moe (Saskatchewan premier) but am big time disappointed is this sudden about face and support of this protest. Just be a productive member of society, stop whining about taking a test, and we'll get back to normal after beefing up the medical system.
swordfish wrote:
Who’s whining at taking a test? I take at least 2 a week for work.
Sunnyside wrote:
I'm refering to the common mandates in my area. Test result or vaccine verification anywhere government regulated.
I still dont get this philosophy - I have probably half a dozen wedding invitations sitting at my house. Due to venue requirements, they are requesting proof of vaccination OR a negative test result prior to attendance if you are not vaccinated.

What good does this do? It would weed out the potential non vaccinated covid positive guests, but would allow for positive vaccinated guests to attend. Doesnt make much sense now that its obvious you can still get / carry / transmit if vaccinated. Especially once the narrative changed to you are much less likely to experience any symptoms if vaccinated, so they are that much more likely to spread it without knowing....
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Sunnyside wrote:
I live in Saskatchewan and I fail to see how dropping regulations can possibly improve our lives. Last week people were waiting up to 3 days...
I live in Saskatchewan and I fail to see how dropping regulations can possibly improve our lives. Last week people were waiting up to 3 days in the ER to get a hospital bed at any major city hospital. My family has several procedures delayed or on waiting lists because of this bottleneck over the last year. Open the flood gates and many people will die and not just with covid.
I voted for Moe (Saskatchewan premier) but am big time disappointed is this sudden about face and support of this protest. Just be a productive member of society, stop whining about taking a test, and we'll get back to normal after beefing up the medical system.
swordfish wrote:
Who’s whining at taking a test? I take at least 2 a week for work.
Sunnyside wrote:
I'm refering to the common mandates in my area. Test result or vaccine verification anywhere government regulated.
Not everyone is being given that option. The truckers are not. It’s a little ridiculous. I came back from US last week with negative PCR test results from the same day and was still given a random PCR test and ordered to take it by customs with threat of imprisonment, fines and removal of my freedoms if I did not.
I did not.
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XXVoid MainXX 2/8/2022 11:19am
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Hit the thumbs down if you love freedom and support these truckers!
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George Costanza 2/8/2022 11:48am
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so JT is looking at a mandate for truckers going between provinces now, is this true??

https://twitter.com/jkenney/status/1491112177192763394
If the Canada-USA trucker vaccine mandate wasn't bad enough, now Justin Trudeau wants to bring in a mandate for truckers going between provinces.

Alberta will fight this every step of the way - including in court, if we have to.

📽 WATCH:


https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/no-sign-whatsoever-mandate-impacts-bor…

Truckers travelling within Canada are not affected by these new measures, although the federal government has said it is working on an interprovincial mandate for truckers.
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George Costanza wrote:
so JT is looking at a mandate for truckers going between provinces now, is this true?? https://twitter.com/jkenney/status/1491112177192763394 If the Canada-USA trucker vaccine mandate wasn't bad enough...
so JT is looking at a mandate for truckers going between provinces now, is this true??

https://twitter.com/jkenney/status/1491112177192763394
If the Canada-USA trucker vaccine mandate wasn't bad enough, now Justin Trudeau wants to bring in a mandate for truckers going between provinces.

Alberta will fight this every step of the way - including in court, if we have to.

📽 WATCH:


https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/no-sign-whatsoever-mandate-impacts-bor…

Truckers travelling within Canada are not affected by these new measures, although the federal government has said it is working on an interprovincial mandate for truckers.
Are there provincial border gates? That would be extremely hard to enforce I would think. There are a lot of roads betwen provinces
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Around 5:30 he laments people selling all they have and moving to the united states.
I wonder how many of them should go the Asylum route.
Start a US Asylum caravan, and I bet this stuff gets attention
Not that the US is much better, But sometimes voting with your feet is the only real option.
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George Costanza wrote:
so JT is looking at a mandate for truckers going between provinces now, is this true?? https://twitter.com/jkenney/status/1491112177192763394 If the Canada-USA trucker vaccine mandate wasn't bad enough...
so JT is looking at a mandate for truckers going between provinces now, is this true??

https://twitter.com/jkenney/status/1491112177192763394
If the Canada-USA trucker vaccine mandate wasn't bad enough, now Justin Trudeau wants to bring in a mandate for truckers going between provinces.

Alberta will fight this every step of the way - including in court, if we have to.

📽 WATCH:


https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/no-sign-whatsoever-mandate-impacts-bor…

Truckers travelling within Canada are not affected by these new measures, although the federal government has said it is working on an interprovincial mandate for truckers.
XXVoid MainXX wrote:
Are there provincial border gates? That would be extremely hard to enforce I would think. There are a lot of roads betwen provinces
Atlantic Canada has had border checkpoints. Much easier when NS is almost an Island and PEI/NL are. There was restricted travel between NB and NS for a long time.
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XXVoid MainXX wrote:
Well that is refreshing to hear from a Liberal MP. I don’t know how any sensible person can listen to that and disagree with any of it. I wish he would have also addressed the elephant in the room though, the healthcare workers. When will they explain why our healthcare system, which was already strained pre-covid, is running at a further reduced capacity by locking out unvaccinated workers. The science has proven that being vaccinated does not stop the transmission or illness anymore, so why are we fucking around with people’s lives here? It’s insanity and no one wants to talk about it.
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Sunnyside wrote:
I live in Saskatchewan and I fail to see how dropping regulations can possibly improve our lives. Last week people were waiting up to 3 days...
I live in Saskatchewan and I fail to see how dropping regulations can possibly improve our lives. Last week people were waiting up to 3 days in the ER to get a hospital bed at any major city hospital. My family has several procedures delayed or on waiting lists because of this bottleneck over the last year. Open the flood gates and many people will die and not just with covid.
I voted for Moe (Saskatchewan premier) but am big time disappointed is this sudden about face and support of this protest. Just be a productive member of society, stop whining about taking a test, and we'll get back to normal after beefing up the medical system.
These mandates which you support have unvaccinated healthcare workers on unpaid leave, while covid-positive ones can work in ER’s, and do, because they are needed. This makes sense to you?

You can thank the mandates for the delayed procedures and waiting lists, not the unvaccinated workers you look down your nose at. They could get back to beefing up the medical system immediately if they just would end the charades.

Unfortunately some of these workers will never come back to the job, and I don’t blame them. This was a total slap in the face to all of them.
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GeorgiePorgie 2/8/2022 4:48pm
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Every nurse in the USA and Canada could demand progress. Truckers and nurse lockout at the same time….the govt would panic so quickly they’d label everyone a terrorist and throw us all in jail for patient abandonment. I’d still strike.
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