Black Flag Vince Freise

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He almost kept it up, if he would’ve would it really been much worse than the JA vs KR pass?
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yak651 wrote:
He almost kept it up, if he would’ve would it really been much worse than the JA vs KR pass?
Pretty much. Just haters coming out.
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2/5/2022 9:02pm
Someone should let Craig know that this kind of dirty racing has a lesser chance of happening if he raced the 450 class.......
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captain wrote:
I think what happened was that they groomed the sand and didn’t give them a sight lap. So Friese came in thinking of the existing line...
I think what happened was that they groomed the sand and didn’t give them a sight lap. So Friese came in thinking of the existing line, but in reality it was gone. It was still extremely dirty.
UGOTBIT wrote:
Yeah idk, looked like Vince jumped into the sand section and was coming in hot and realized he was going to blow right through the inside...
Yeah idk, looked like Vince jumped into the sand section and was coming in hot and realized he was going to blow right through the inside so tried to go outside but CC was right there
Motodave15 wrote:
…… no
You're right, just saw a replay and CC was in front of Vince.

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mxbigd17 wrote:
Someone should let Craig know that this kind of dirty racing has a lesser chance of happening if he raced the 450 class.......
Yea? Cuz Freezy is in 250s now?
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2/5/2022 9:05pm Edited Date/Time 2/5/2022 9:13pm
He is a danger and needs his licensed pulled.
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2/5/2022 9:07pm
I think it was a product of him tripling into the corner, maybe he should have just doubled and came out in second, probably could have finished on the podium or at worst top 5. With that said his history makes it very difficult (read impossible) to give him the benefit of doubt.

The real question is, if Christian punts him in the last race will he get DQ'ed for retaliation?
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AMA penalty should be administered by Peick.
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2/5/2022 9:08pm
TXDirt wrote:
If Osborne can torpedo Ssvaghty and it’s celebrated then Friese can take Craig out.

I’ll allow it.
Final corner, for the championship, very low speeds. Sure. Round 4, not in the title hunt, VERY HIGH SPEED. You're a fucking clown if you'd allow...
Final corner, for the championship, very low speeds. Sure.

Round 4, not in the title hunt, VERY HIGH SPEED. You're a fucking clown if you'd allow shit like that.
TXDirt wrote:
If it’s allowed on the last lap for a championship then it should be allowed on the first lap first round of a qualifier Stop with...
If it’s allowed on the last lap for a championship then it should be allowed on the first lap first round of a qualifier

Stop with the “well it depends on the situation” bullshit.

It’s either allowed or not allowed. Period.
This is like, a really awful take/opinion. Are you under the influence?
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2/5/2022 9:09pm Edited Date/Time 2/5/2022 9:10pm
yak651 wrote:
He almost kept it up, if he would’ve would it really been much worse than the JA vs KR pass?
TXDirt wrote:
Pretty much. Just haters coming out.
Really? You think that? You are really "undense" Good for you making it this far in life.
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2/5/2022 9:10pm Edited Date/Time 2/5/2022 9:11pm
TXDirt wrote:
If Osborne can torpedo Ssvaghty and it’s celebrated then Friese can take Craig out.

I’ll allow it.
Final corner, for the championship, very low speeds. Sure. Round 4, not in the title hunt, VERY HIGH SPEED. You're a fucking clown if you'd allow...
Final corner, for the championship, very low speeds. Sure.

Round 4, not in the title hunt, VERY HIGH SPEED. You're a fucking clown if you'd allow shit like that.
TXDirt wrote:
If it’s allowed on the last lap for a championship then it should be allowed on the first lap first round of a qualifier Stop with...
If it’s allowed on the last lap for a championship then it should be allowed on the first lap first round of a qualifier

Stop with the “well it depends on the situation” bullshit.

It’s either allowed or not allowed. Period.
I agree it doesn't really matter if it's last corner for a championship or first lap of a random main.

HOWEVER, what does for sure matter is the speed. A move like that at that speed is how guys end up in wheelchairs or worse.
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2/5/2022 9:17pm
Friese holding up the entire 250 class for over half a race. What a joke.
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Final corner, for the championship, very low speeds. Sure. Round 4, not in the title hunt, VERY HIGH SPEED. You're a fucking clown if you'd allow...
Final corner, for the championship, very low speeds. Sure.

Round 4, not in the title hunt, VERY HIGH SPEED. You're a fucking clown if you'd allow shit like that.
TXDirt wrote:
If it’s allowed on the last lap for a championship then it should be allowed on the first lap first round of a qualifier Stop with...
If it’s allowed on the last lap for a championship then it should be allowed on the first lap first round of a qualifier

Stop with the “well it depends on the situation” bullshit.

It’s either allowed or not allowed. Period.
Brownie281 wrote:
This is like, a really awful take/opinion. Are you under the influence?
What’s wrong with being consistent? If it’s allowed it’s allowed. If not then it isn’t.

To say it’s “situational” is absurd.
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yak651 wrote:
He almost kept it up, if he would’ve would it really been much worse than the JA vs KR pass?
They were two of the same
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I think everyone needs to calm down. It was a dumb move. I would tell Vince if he touches anyone from here on out he’s black flagged. Not in a wheelchair, not a license revoked. Just freaking chill. This internet freak out is getting old. We all ride dirt bikes. Remember?
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2/5/2022 9:31pm
AMA needs to be careful if they penalize Friese they need to do the same thing to Anderson. He admitted he went for the takeout last weekend.
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#sleezyfriese
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JohnnyD13 wrote:
I think everyone needs to calm down. It was a dumb move. I would tell Vince if he touches anyone from here on out he’s black...
I think everyone needs to calm down. It was a dumb move. I would tell Vince if he touches anyone from here on out he’s black flagged. Not in a wheelchair, not a license revoked. Just freaking chill. This internet freak out is getting old. We all ride dirt bikes. Remember?
Many here does not race, very clear. And of course wishing Vince to be in a chair, that person or people should be stoned to death. Bottom line a clown move, he has done it before and will do it again. Just thankful CC was not hurt. Major respect for his pass and interview. I would have j lawed that, cut track and t boned him. But hey, my ability and temper is only two reasons no one has botched about me racing on TV.
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Listen...he easily could have broken CC’s neck. He should be suspended for at least 1 race. Speeds in JA vs KR were not nearly as high or as dangerous. Not excusing that one but Vince could have seriously hurt Craig. When he went flying I thought he was done for the race. Much more reckless then other passes being mentioned.
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2/5/2022 10:09pm
Was able to obtain a copy of Friese’s LitPRO data...


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this moron needs to be suspended for multiple races. he has been doing this kind of shit for more than a decade. Anyone here who says everyone needs to "calm down" is a moron just like friese. that was some of the most dangerous riding I have ever seen.
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EZ Cobra! Was def a spermbeard move, but wheelchaiir 🙄?
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yak651 wrote:
He almost kept it up, if he would’ve would it really been much worse than the JA vs KR pass?
TXDirt wrote:
Pretty much. Just haters coming out.
You can defend him all you want but when 100% of the racers that race him say he is dangerous that says something…kind of makes your argument a little weak…
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m121c wrote:
Was able to obtain a copy of Friese’s LitPRO data... [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/02/05/532331/s1200_D4B5FD0F_06C1_40C4_A1D0_9C5145BBA3B5.jpg[/img]
Was able to obtain a copy of Friese’s LitPRO data...


They must have been showing his fast lap...way straighter lines then most laps.
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When the GOAT coins a slogan for your antics you know it’s bad. Got “Friesed”
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2/5/2022 11:14pm Edited Date/Time 2/6/2022 2:34am
I think it was a product of him tripling into the corner, maybe he should have just doubled and came out in second, probably could have...
I think it was a product of him tripling into the corner, maybe he should have just doubled and came out in second, probably could have finished on the podium or at worst top 5. With that said his history makes it very difficult (read impossible) to give him the benefit of doubt.

The real question is, if Christian punts him in the last race will he get DQ'ed for retaliation?
After watching a replay from a different angle, he had plenty of time to change the outcome here. I thought he landed on the last bump and couldn't stop but instead he landed on the second to last bump and drove it into Craig.
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2/5/2022 11:22pm
SoCalMX70 wrote:
Whole 250 class should take notes...
Whole 250 class should take notes...

I miss K Dub. He was the last top racer older than me to retire. He definitely was not one to play with, just like Vince learned so did DV.
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