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Many people think that the current East/west series is long in the tooth and seems to be conflicted with balancing who the class is for ranging from being strictly rookies but also somehow including veterans riders who can get paid to race a 250 instead of a 450.
With the supercross futures being turned into an exclusive 250 (amatuer a/b) class and being ran on same day does the 'futures' class take the place as a regional pro/am series? and if so, does the 250 class turn into a national series or stay regional?
or does it stay in its relative state as an exhibition?
Personally i would like to see a 250 class mimic what used to be featured in the AX series, a national series and a pro/am regional.
With the supercross futures being turned into an exclusive 250 (amatuer a/b) class and being ran on same day does the 'futures' class take the place as a regional pro/am series? and if so, does the 250 class turn into a national series or stay regional?
or does it stay in its relative state as an exhibition?
Personally i would like to see a 250 class mimic what used to be featured in the AX series, a national series and a pro/am regional.
it was split to east vs west prior because 125 was a feeder class before going to the premier class and riders where looking to prove them selves and than move up.
Now people are going pro in their 20's and staying until they are late 20's.. its no longer a feeder class.
the 250's are almost setting the same lap times as the 450's in some races.
Outdoor nationals is combined and has no issue or shortage of factory rides.
Crazy to think before 2018.. Majority of the past SX champions had won multiple SX titles and retired by 27 years of age...
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this would just change the rules of the current east/west to allow amatuers in much like canada's 250 class; then add a 250 national series.
this wouldnt kill off jobs just spread them around differently,
if anything id be more concerned with having enough riders show up to fill the gates
At the very least Daytona should be an E/W shootout every year.
After watching the last couple rounds of Futures, I have completely changed my mind. Aside from a couple standouts, these guys are really lacking in speed, technique, and endurance to compete at a TV-worthy level. I'm not saying they are bad riders, it was just never so evident of the skill gap between amateur and pro until you make them all ride the same track. A tamed down SX track for amateur day is cake compared to the race day SX track for pros.
After seeing this, I do think the East/West format is still providing value and preparing guys for the 450 class. The futures program is going to benefit the privateer type rider trying to get SX experience and qualifying points.
As above stated, it is no longer a feeder class, it's a full on pro class. So why point people out? If they want to stay, stay.
Develop the supercross futures into the feeder class and maybe add another class to it, like 125's.
Personally, that's what I'd like to see.
For the people that say that "there aren't enough rides in 450s", it forces the current riders to step up. I like Bogle, Hartraft, and all these guys, but you can't say that Craig and Nichols wouldn't be doing better. Wouldn't J Mart being doing just as good as Craig on a 450 outdoors?
450SX: 20 rider gate, 17 rnds, 2 15 min motos per round, moto scores tallied for overall finish, points based on overall finish, bonus points paid for moto wins, top daytime qualifying time.
250SX: same as 450SX
250 Futures West, South, North: 20 rider gate, ages 16-20, AMA B-Pro class, 250 Limited rules (similar to Loretta rules), 4 rounds per region, 3 round combined runoff with regional top 10 to crown futures champion, futures champion must advance to 250/450SX. 1 12 minute moto, extra daytime practice sessions.
Night show:
450
250
Futures
250
450
Night Show
450 LCQ
Futures
450 Moto1
250
450 Moto2
One of the purposes of the East/West is to make it easier for privateers to compete.
It costs a lot of money to do a full series.
I also think that moving riders up earlier would result in more riders doing poorly in 450 and retiring earlier.
I'd rather have (2) 250 half series, plus 450.
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